Official Contest of Marvels II Discussion Thread

[Phaedrus45]

I'm confused. Why would everyone have the same percentage? If all your characters go out in round 1 you have a zero percentage overall for the contest. The more matches you win the better your percentage, whenever your characters eventually go out. eg If all your characters win two matches and lose their third you have 66.67% etc.

Ahhhh...I see how you're thinking of it. Actually, at the beginning of Season 1, that was kind of an idea I played around with. But, I did it differently. Here was a prize package I was thinking of:

Each round, you get points for characters that stay in the contest. In Round 1, one point for each one. Then, it doubles: 2 points for Round 2, 4 Points for Round 3, etc. Person with the most points wins the big prize. (But, in the end, we decided to go with person who has the last remaining character.) Maybe if people like the idea, it could be something to think about next season....like a runner-up prize, excluding the big, main winner.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Phaedrus:

As tough as a decision as it is, I would like Maestro to move on to the next round.

Ok, weekly results have been changed to reflect your decision.

 

[Iceman]

Ahhhh...I see how you're thinking of it. Actually, at the beginning of Season 1, that was kind of an idea I played around with. But, I did it differently. Here was a prize package I was thinking of:

Each round, you get points for characters that stay in the contest. In Round 1, one point for each one. Then, it doubles: 2 points for Round 2, 4 Points for Round 3, etc. Person with the most points wins the big prize. (But, in the end, we decided to go with person who has the last remaining character.) Maybe if people like the idea, it could be something to think about next season....like a runner-up prize, excluding the big, main winner.

Yeah, this system should have a similar result to overall win percentage.

I agree the controller of the individual character who wins the overall contest deserves a huge portion of the credit. However, the overall win %age would assess who's team had the best performance.

Otherwise, after round 2 you only need to concentrate on your best characters. Why bother fiercely defending the weak ones in underdog matches when they they have no chance of winning the overall contest? I particularly enjoy trying to debate for characters who would normally lose a battle. This would be the better performance measure of those taking part as all their matches would count towards their stat. The influence of luck would be greatly decreased.

I'm only discussing though, not saying X or Y should happen. My fault for not reading through the small print more carefully.

 

[hippy fascist]

Percentages wins not counting drawn debates (in order of pwnage)

1=DarkHellRider 3-0 (100%)
1=Harlekin 1-0 (100%)
1=JewishHobbit 2-0 (100%)
4.Phaedrus45 4-1 (80%)
5.Hippy Fascist 3-1 (75%)
6.Wiegeabo 2-1 (66.67%[2.d.p.])
7.Kytrigger 3-2 (60%)
8.Darthphere 4-3 (57.14%[2.d.p.])
9=AhuraMazda 2-3 (40%)
9=Hellstormer 2-3 (40%)
11=Zoken 1-3 (25%)
11=MidnightIce 1-3 (25%)
13=Wolverine25th 1-4 (20%)
13=Trigger 1-4 (20%)
15=AnnoyingSilence 0-1 (0%)
15=IceMan/Pylocke 0-1 (0%)

Hellstormer,considering you were considering quiting last week 9th place isn't really that bad Look at poor iceman/psylocke, tied with a guy who has yet to debate a single match

 

[Phaedrus45]

Thanks, Hippy. If you feel comfortable doing that every Thursday after I post results, feel free to keep everyone updated.

 

[Iceman]

Hellstormer,considering you were considering quiting last week 9th place isn't really that bad Look at poor iceman/psylocke, tied with a guy who has yet to debate a single match

At least it can't get any worse now

 

[Darthphere]

Percentages wins not counting drawn debates (in order of pwnage)

1=DarkHellRider 3-0 (100%)
1=Harlekin 1-0 (100%)
1=JewishHobbit 2-0 (100%)
4.Phaedrus45 4-1 (80%)
5.Hippy Fascist 3-1 (75%)
6.Wiegeabo 2-1 (66.67%[2.d.p.])
7.Kytrigger 3-2 (60%)
8.Darthphere 4-3 (57.14%[2.d.p.])
9=AhuraMazda 2-3 (40%)
9=Hellstormer 2-3 (40%)
11=Zoken 1-3 (25%)
11=MidnightIce 1-3 (25%)
13=Wolverine25th 1-4 (20%)
13=Trigger 1-4 (20%)
15=AnnoyingSilence 0-1 (0%)
15=IceMan/Pylocke 0-1 (0%)

Hellstormer,considering you were considering quiting last week 9th place isn't really that bad Look at poor iceman/psylocke, tied with a guy who has yet to debate a single match

WTF?! Nobody except for me has had more than 5 matches.

 

[kytrigger]

WTF?! Nobody except for me has had more than 5 matches.

That just means you've had more chances to win than the rest of us...

 

[Hellstormer]

Percentages wins not counting drawn debates (in order of pwnage)

1=DarkHellRider 3-0 (100%)
1=Harlekin 1-0 (100%)
1=JewishHobbit 2-0 (100%)
4.Phaedrus45 4-1 (80%)
5.Hippy Fascist 3-1 (75%)
6.Wiegeabo 2-1 (66.67%[2.d.p.])
7.Kytrigger 3-2 (60%)
8.Darthphere 4-3 (57.14%[2.d.p.])
9=AhuraMazda 2-3 (40%)
9=Hellstormer 2-3 (40%)
11=Zoken 1-3 (25%)
11=MidnightIce 1-3 (25%)
13=Wolverine25th 1-4 (20%)
13=Trigger 1-4 (20%)
15=AnnoyingSilence 0-1 (0%)
15=IceMan/Pylocke 0-1 (0%)

Hellstormer,considering you were considering quiting last week 9th place isn't really that bad Look at poor iceman/psylocke, tied with a guy who has yet to debate a single match

I'm confused is that this weeks? Because I lost all 3 matches last time.

 

[Phaedrus45]

I'm confused is that this weeks? Because I lost all 3 matches last time.

That is the combining of weeks 1 & 2. Each week, Hippy will show the winning percentages of all combined weeks for Round 1. The only thing this chart doesn't include is the ties. So, someone like Harlekin who has six matches next week (2 of those rematches), might just drop a lot in the percentages. If he wins all six matches, I'll get on my knees and worship the ground he walks on.

 

[Darthphere]

Im glad I only have one macth this week so I can put all my energy and attention on it.

 

[Harlekin]

So, someone like Harlekin who has six matches next week (2 of those rematches), might just drop a lot in the percentages. If he wins all six matches, I'll get on my knees and worship the ground he walks on.

Start kneeling, start kneeling. I'm planning to take it all home.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Start kneeling, start kneeling. I'm planning to take it all home.

See... if I had been any lower class than to simply mention it, I might have actually taken this the wrong way.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Debating May Begin!

 

[Phaedrus45]

LOCATION: Transia

Transia is a fictional European country on the Earth of the Marvel Universe. It is located between Transylvania, Romania and Yugoslavia. More than 90% of its people live in one large town (East Transia) and a number of smaller villages located at the base of Mount Wundagore.
Tranisa was a former section of Wallachia before that country integrated with Moldavia in 1857 to form Romania. Transia broke with the two larger countries and established its status as an independent state, and was recognized 20 years later as an autonomous, neutral nation. Transia is governed by an elected official (burgomeister) who is bound by law to follow the country's constitution to the letter. The nation's main source of income comes from the uranium found in and around Mt. Wundagore -- Herbert Edgar Wyndham funded a national non-profit trust with the money gathered from his uranium mine that still provides money for Transia to operate its government programs, and thus they have no need of outside investors or a tourist market. This, along with the (intentionally-fostered) negative international image, keeps many foreigners out of Transia.
Transia (and/or Mt. Wundagore) is where Chthon is imprisoned, and was where the men of the Russoff line were afflicted with the curse of lycanthropy. It was also the birthplace of Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, and of Jessica Drew. It was the base of operations for the High Evolutionary, and the source of the "radioactive clay" used by the Puppet Master.

SIDENOTE: People inhabit the village; but, you can expect them to be hiding in their dwellings. Mt. Wundagore is not off-limits; but, the High Evolutionary's base is not there any longer. Neither is the radioactive clay that the Puppet Master uses.

 

[Harlekin]

See... if I had been any lower class than to simply mention it, I might have actually taken this the wrong way.

Feel free to do so.

 

[Iceman]

Please could someone clarify two questions for me

1.Is there any time limit on these fights?
2.What time of day do the matches begin?

 

[JewishHobbit]

Please could someone clarify two questions for me

1.Is there any time limit on these fights?
2.What time of day do the matches begin?

"storyline" time, there is no limit. The characters can be fighting for years. It ends when one person dies, is knocked out, or is removed from the playing field. And I don't think we've said an exact time when the match begins but I've always pictured it as when the sun comes up, starting the new day.

 

[Phaedrus45]

"storyline" time, there is no limit. The characters can be fighting for years. It ends when one person dies, is knocked out, or is removed from the playing field. And I don't think we've said an exact time when the match begins but I've always pictured it as when the sun comes up, starting the new day.

I was actually just thinking this week that we never mention a time of day the fights start. I was thinking of adding that to the matches; for, a match at 12:00 am is quite different from a match at 12:00 pm.

Anyone have any thoughts if they'd like this or not?

 

[Harlekin]

Yo, Phaed, I'm not getting involved with your match with Pym vs Jack of Hearts, but you do know Hank's pretty much cured from all that's troubling him, taking into account all the work Busiek's done in that area?

 

[Phaedrus45]

Yo, Phaed, I'm not getting involved with your match with Pym vs Jack of Hearts, but you do know Hank's pretty much cured from all that's troubling him, taking into account all the work Busiek's done in that area?

Ah, that might seem true; but, in a recent comic, he's still trying to prove to Janet that he's a changed man. To me, it still effects him, and it shows that writers are still displaying him as deeply troubled by his past actions.

It's kind of like various writers who display that a hero is over something in their past...but, another writer comes along and revisits it. Batman is still troubled by the death of his parents; Captain America still is haunted by the death of Bucky (and his being alive brought back many of those feelings); Peter Parker still is traumatized by the death of Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, or many things involving the Osborns.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, guys. I'll give you this one chance. Before I own you all, if you can all agree that I'm going to whip each and everyone of your butts, we can just end this contest now and declare me the winner. And, since you all are going to be losers, maybe I'll send each of you a copy of a Youngblood comic to wipe your tears with.

 

[Harlekin]

Ah, that might seem true; but, in a recent comic, he's still trying to prove to Janet that he's a changed man. To me, it still effects him, and it shows that writers are still displaying him as deeply troubled by his past actions.

It's kind of like various writers who display that a hero is over something in their past...but, another writer comes along and revisits it. Batman is still troubled by the death of his parents; Captain America still is haunted by the death of Bucky (and his being alive brought back many of those feelings); Peter Parker still is traumatized by the death of Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy, or many things involving the Osborns.

Damn, hate when that happens. Cool, then, you got grounds for it.

 

[hippy fascist]

we said that mini's happening right now don't count but what about the current arc of an ongoing such as uncanny x-men?

 

[Harlekin]

And I was wondering since when characters know about the other characters (such as Hank knowing Jan's facing Hogun) also being in the tournament? I thought it was all very much contained, and folks were pretty much isolated otherwise.