Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Endeavor]

Hi. Are there any new pictures of Cyclops?

No, not yet.

 

[Kanon]

Why haven't we heard anything about Marsden yet? Halle this and Hugh that. I want some Cyclops news!

I was just thinkin' that today, as I was trying to put the pieces togheter with all the rumors, scoops and set reports. We all have heard of the reports and "scripts reviews", and a lot of uncomfirmed rumors seems to be actually takin' place in filming. The scene of Angel flying out of Worthington labs, the flashback scenes of the little Jean with the cranes liftin' cars, and the X-Men fighting on the same set, the Alcatraz and Golden Gate thing... and we got the scene in Alkali lake with Jean and Ciclops, and, disturbing it may seem, is the only place I've heard Marsdeen has been filming X-Men 3. I Don't think he dies (is way too much) but perhaps something happens that "takes him away" from the rest of the plot.

 

[Slim_X]

It worries me that Cyclops might be separated from the team for most of the movie (again). I really need some news NOW. Something telling us he's already in Vancouver.

 

[Endeavor]

Ok. I'm getting more worried every passing day. No pictures of Cyclops OR mention of him in any set so far. That plus the possition he hold in the cast listings... I'm not a happy camper.

 

[TheDevil]

It worries me that Cyclops might be separated from the team for most of the movie (again). I really need some news NOW. Something telling us he's already in Vancouver.

He's there. Probably getting geared up to be singed by the all mighty Pej-oops I mean Phoenix.

 

[Retroman]

Ok. I'm getting more worried every passing day. No pictures of Cyclops OR mention of him in any set so far. That plus the possition he hold in the cast listings... I'm not a happy camper.

I'll try and see what i can find on Marsden. Okay?

I want cyke to have a big role as well. The thing that nags me is that FOX seem to be making SR a scapegoat to downsize his role.

 

[Maze]

Ok. I'm getting more worried every passing day. No pictures of Cyclops OR mention of him in any set so far. That plus the possition he hold in the cast listings... I'm not a happy camper.

i think that we can begin to assume that Fox has dowsized his role again.

If that is the case , that is one big mistake imo.

 

[Endeavor]

I'd appreciate that Retro... I'm kinda feeling down about Cyke right now.

The whole Superman Returns excuse is nothing but pure unadulterated bullsh|t!. Marsden is not the only actor in this production to have several projects going on at the same time. McKellen, Paquin and others are also currently busy with other projects. Hell, even Omahyra Freakin Mota had to fly to the east coast because she was doing a fashion shoot... This sucks.

 

[snwboarder88]

even if his role is downsized...he is going to have some of the best scenes in the movie, brett ratner and simon kingberg are fans of the comic, they wouldnt let that happen...he may not have a big size role in the movie or even be in it that long, but when he is in a scene he will still it...hes not going down without a fight.

 

[Maze]

even if his role is downsized...he is going to have some of the best scenes in the movie, brett ratner and simon kingberg are fans of the comic, they wouldnt let that happen...he may not have a big size role in the movie or even be in it that long, but when he is in a scene he will still it...hes not going down without a fight.

i hope that you are right.

i really do..

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'll try and see what i can find on Marsden. Okay?

I want cyke to have a big role as well. The thing that nags me is that FOX seem to be making SR a scapegoat to downsize his role.

This is true. However, I feel like some of that responsibility should be shared by Marsden too. In my opinion he GAVE them the leeway to use that weak excuse to downsize his involvement.

I don't think his signing on with SR was the best career move considering he's going to be just a background player in Returns as well--the "other man" type role he plays in the Logan/Jean/Scott love triangle.

But James, like his other castmates, all knew that FOX was eyeing this summer for X3. Why on earth would he ally himself with a competing studio that's shooting at the same time?

The only solace we can gain from this my friends is that due to his small role in SR, James should be freed up soon. Depending on how involved his X3 scenes are, he could shoot his material and be out of Vancouver quickly to return to the SR production.

 

[Endeavor]

No snwboarder88, I don't accept that. I won't accept the "oh he'll be in few scenes but they will be key" excuse. So far all things point to the AICN review. You know they one they keep saying is old but that somehow keeps proving to be dead on every time we get a new scoop? Killing Cyclops in such a lame meaningless way in the first or second act of the film is STUPID!. Having him be the reason for Jean to go Dark instead of using him as her anchor and making him instrumental in bringing her back to sanity is STUPID!.

I'm out of here. I'll be back later when I feel like chatting about this...
Take care guys

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

No snwboarder88, I don't accept that. I won't accept the "oh he'll be in few scenes but they will be key" excuse. So far all things point to the AICN review. You know they one they keep saying is old but that somehow keeps proving to be dead on every time we get a new scoop? Killing Cyclops in such a lame meaningless way in the first or second act of the film is STUPID!. Having him be the reason for Jean to go Dark instead of using him as her anchor and making him instrumental in bringing her back to sanity is STUPID!.

I'm out of here. I'll be back later when I feel like chatting about this...
Take care guys

*offers E-Man a drink as he exits thread*

 

[StevieNicks1988]

*Waits to see the boards when they find out Cyke really does die*

 

[Octoberist]

After I saw those pix of Halle, Patrick, Hugh, and Ian..I got more discouraged. It's October and we still haven't seen Cyclops. He's not like Angel or Beast; he was one the principle actors from the previous movies..and we still haven't heard a peep from him.

I've been ranting about this, and some people just don't care (NOW). But like what I said before, they WILL care when the movie hits theaters. The idea of Cyclops getting killed off early on hasn't HIT some people's heads yet.

Despite having a conflicted schedule with Superman, I'm sure that the screenwriters could of found a way for Cyclops to have some decent screentime. Ian McKellen and Aaron Stanford came aboard late, along with Vinnie Jones...and their screentimes (as of now) seems decent enough.

I agree with Retro and Endeavor, this decision could be stupid and that Superman thing is just a scapgoat. Now I don't have proof that Cykes will toss away, but unless we get some photos on set of Marsden (be it spy or official) then I'll be worried.

Trust me, if FOX went with this decision, it will affect X3 negatively with the mainstream. It won't make any sense. It's like killing off Han Solo EARLY ON in The Empire Strikes Back, instead of freezing him carbonite; from a narrative standpoint, the audience will question the signifiance of THAT character.

If Cyclops bites the dust in the first act like a victim not a hero, say goodbye to X4 for me, because I probably won't be interested (Even if they have Gambit).

 

[Minisinoo]

I've said before that I've seen absolutely no evidence to disprove many of the spoilers in that AICN report. All FOX will say is it's old and has been revised. Well, yeah. But that doesn't mean the plot (and spoilers) have substantially changed.

Second, and as I've pointed out now numerous times and I'm getting tired of repeating myself: when Marsden signed for Superman Returns X3 appeared to be dead in the water. It had no director, no script, no shooting schedule, and only the old "target release date" of Summer 2006, which was decided shortly after X3 came out. There were no real signs of life on X3 until after Marsden signed, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least that FOX finally got their asses in gear because Singer was co-opting their creative staff from X2. It was a reaction TO things happening with Superman. I can't help but see much of this entire film's initial impetus as a reaction to Superman. It's all very childish really.

Those who think Marsden is to blame and that he made a stupid career move by taking Superman Returns don't know how Hollywood works. Had he sat around, twiddling his thumbs, simply assuming X3 would be filmed right now, that would have been a stupid career move. Acting is a job; one can't count on roles being there. You take what appears to be going forward. And at the time, he probably had no reason to assume that FOX would 'punish' him, as he'd been very supportive of X2, was a good sport, and was continually remarked on as easy to work with (in contrast to others on set). If he made a mistake, it was in assuming that people (read TPTB) wouldn't hold his choices against him.

But at the time he took SR, it was definitely not a career mistake on his part.

 

[Octoberist]

I agree with you Minsinoo.

When Marsden was hired to do Superman, X3 wasn't moving at all.

Samething with Alan Cumming. He even stated in an interview last year that he cleared his schedule for X3 for the summer...but when the production was out of control with a lack of director, the shoot was pushed back for late summer/fall/winter schedule, his scheule got conflicted. In other words, even though Allan was being whinny about his makeup, HE WAS UP FOR X3 nevertheless. Because of the delays and what have you, he couldn't do it. And because of that, his role got smaller and samller until he was eventually cut out.

I recommend some of you guys to read an article from Chud.com from Dave Davis. Davis made a good point from an 'outsider's point of view. I still like the site, I just hate Devin.

 

[Endeavor]

I've said before that I've seen absolutely no evidence to disprove many of the spoilers in that AICN report. All FOX will say is it's old and has been revised. Well, yeah. But that doesn't mean the plot (and spoilers) have substantially changed.

Second, and as I've pointed out now numerous times and I'm getting tired of repeating myself: when Marsden signed for Superman Returns X3 appeared to be dead in the water. It had no director, no script, no shooting schedule, and only the old "target release date" of Summer 2006, which was decided shortly after X3 came out. There were no real signs of life on X3 until after Marsden signed, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least that FOX finally got their asses in gear because Singer was co-opting their creative staff from X2. It was a reaction TO things happening with Superman. I can't help but see much of this entire film's initial impetus as a reaction to Superman. It's all very childish really.

Those who think Marsden is to blame and that he made a stupid career move by taking Superman Returns don't know how Hollywood works. Had he sat around, twiddling his thumbs, simply assuming X3 would be filmed right now, that would have been a stupid career move. Acting is a job; one can't count on roles being there. You take what appears to be going forward. And at the time, he probably had no reason to assume that FOX would 'punish' him, as he'd been very supportive of X2, was a good sport, and was continually remarked on as easy to work with (in contrast to others on set). If he made a mistake, it was in assuming that people (read TPTB) wouldn't hold his choices against him.

But at the time he took SR, it was definitely not a career mistake on his part.

 

[Maze]

I've said before that I've seen absolutely no evidence to disprove many of the spoilers in that AICN report. All FOX will say is it's old and has been revised. Well, yeah. But that doesn't mean the plot (and spoilers) have substantially changed.

Second, and as I've pointed out now numerous times and I'm getting tired of repeating myself: when Marsden signed for Superman Returns X3 appeared to be dead in the water. It had no director, no script, no shooting schedule, and only the old "target release date" of Summer 2006, which was decided shortly after X3 came out. There were no real signs of life on X3 until after Marsden signed, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least that FOX finally got their asses in gear because Singer was co-opting their creative staff from X2. It was a reaction TO things happening with Superman. I can't help but see much of this entire film's initial impetus as a reaction to Superman. It's all very childish really.

Those who think Marsden is to blame and that he made a stupid career move by taking Superman Returns don't know how Hollywood works. Had he sat around, twiddling his thumbs, simply assuming X3 would be filmed right now, that would have been a stupid career move. Acting is a job; one can't count on roles being there. You take what appears to be going forward. And at the time, he probably had no reason to assume that FOX would 'punish' him, as he'd been very supportive of X2, was a good sport, and was continually remarked on as easy to work with (in contrast to others on set). If he made a mistake, it was in assuming that people (read TPTB) wouldn't hold his choices against him.

But at the time he took SR, it was definitely not a career mistake on his part.

(the last smiley doesn't mean anything, but it make my post a little less similar to endeavor's one )

 

[ShadowBoxing]

You see you all say Cyclops has no part (yet I have heard he will be one of the main eleven). Yet we have not seen pictures of Juggernaut, Beast, Rogue, Iceman, Angel, Kravita Roa, Worthington SR, Phoenix, Pyro, Scarlet Witch?, Omega Red?, Guanlet?, or pretty much anyone else. So just because we have not heard about what he will be doing does in no way suggest he dies. In fact it suggests the opposite. We have heard more about Professor X dying from reports than Cyke. The only place the Cyke rumor gets rehashed is on the boards

 

[Maze]

So , I presume that you are not aware of all the reports about the X3 production.

So far , there have been no james Mardsen sighting..And that's worrying.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

So , I presume that you are not aware of all the reports about the X3 production.

So far , there have been no james Mardsen sighting..And that's worrying.

I would assume in X2 there were no Marsden sightings. They film their scenes based on their schedules not yours. Again no one has spotted Cudmore, or Paquin or Iceman or Pyro or Vinnie or Foster or Beast(until just recently) and today was the first spotting of Magneto and Storm (so I suppose they die to). All your doing is taking one rumor and twisting everything to fit it. It would be a far. From what I understand Wolverine Storm and several villians comprise one plotline. Iceman and Rogue comprise another, Beast and Cyclops comprise another and Angel is a go between. I would wait for hard evidence before running around mindlessly speculating about who dies, who does not get a part.

 

[Maze]

there have been no sighting of Anna , Sean or Kelsey?(he has been spotted one month ago)

Well , i was living in another dimension then.

ps: yes Vinnie has just started his scenes apparently..

edit ps:

and today was the first spotting of Magneto and Storm .

no it wasn't.

You see the search button? He can be your friend

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

I've said before that I've seen absolutely no evidence to disprove many of the spoilers in that AICN report. All FOX will say is it's old and has been revised. Well, yeah. But that doesn't mean the plot (and spoilers) have substantially changed.

Second, and as I've pointed out now numerous times and I'm getting tired of repeating myself: when Marsden signed for Superman Returns X3 appeared to be dead in the water. It had no director, no script, no shooting schedule, and only the old "target release date" of Summer 2006, which was decided shortly after X3 came out. There were no real signs of life on X3 until after Marsden signed, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least that FOX finally got their asses in gear because Singer was co-opting their creative staff from X2. It was a reaction TO things happening with Superman. I can't help but see much of this entire film's initial impetus as a reaction to Superman. It's all very childish really.

Those who think Marsden is to blame and that he made a stupid career move by taking Superman Returns don't know how Hollywood works. Had he sat around, twiddling his thumbs, simply assuming X3 would be filmed right now, that would have been a stupid career move. Acting is a job; one can't count on roles being there. You take what appears to be going forward. And at the time, he probably had no reason to assume that FOX would 'punish' him, as he'd been very supportive of X2, was a good sport, and was continually remarked on as easy to work with (in contrast to others on set). If he made a mistake, it was in assuming that people (read TPTB) wouldn't hold his choices against him.

But at the time he took SR, it was definitely not a career mistake on his part.

Brilliantly said Minisinoo. The scheduling conflict is BS and nobody is buying it. Marsden is obviously being punished for working with the guy who's #1 on Fox's ***** list. Apparently Marsden the actor and Cyclops the character have a lot more fans than Fox realizes or they wouldn't be shafting him ---- again.

X3 should've have been Marsden's film --- no question. However I don't think he's ever been worried about the franchise making or breaking his career. He comes across very gracious in interviews and seems to be glad to be working in a field he loves and getting paid pretty decently. He's actually smart not to aspire to be a flavor-of-the-moment who'll be featured on a 'Where Are They Now?' type show a few years from now.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Brilliantly said Minisinoo. The scheduling conflict is BS and nobody is buying it. Marsden is obviously being punished for working with the guy who's #1 on Fox's ***** list. Apparently Marsden the actor and Cyclops the character have a lot more fans than Fox realizes or they wouldn't be shafting him ---- again.

X3 should've have been Marsden's film --- no question. However I don't think he's ever been worried about the franchise making or breaking his career. He comes across very gracious in interviews and seems to be glad to be working in a field he loves and getting paid pretty decently. He's actually smart not to aspire to be a flavor-of-the-moment who'll be featured on a 'Where Are They Now?' type show a few years from now.

I would agree that Marsden will have a small role. Thats obvious. However scheduling is not BS, he IS filming Superman in AUSTRALIA. Thats not exactly across the street. However I think AICN had a lot of backlash. Magneto, Xavier, Cyclops were suppose to die. Wolverine and Storm were suppose to hook up. No Sentinels were going to appear. Its quiet obvious Ratner for good or ill (I'm thinking for ill) changes things at the drop of a hat. He is responsive to fans (I think in the wrong way). I believe this because mutants after mutants after side characters have been added daily since he attached himself. He obviously wants to "please everyone all the time" by throwing in everyone's favorite X-Man. Also we have heard a plethera of rumors from Cyclops calms her down, to Cyclops does not even show up. We know though that the toys offer three Cyclops figures, suggesting he has somewhat of a role in this film. I do not think killing him off in the first five minutes substantiates a figure. Chances are this. Marsden's Cyclops will get a role like "protect the president" or "stay here at the mansion and guard it with your life" and we will not hear from him until the end when all the mutants come together. Wolverine will save the day and Obi-wan (as Kinberg put it) will die (which sounds like Xavier to me).