Official discussion on why "Nice Guys" have a hard time getting the girl.

[knowsbleed]

Only if you are Mee.

 

[Nirvana]

It's too bad the term "Nice Guy" gets a bad rap. To me the "Nice Guy" is the balanced guy. Laid back, confident, level-headed/calm, and can stand his own ground when confronted or threatened.

I guess when the "nice" word comes up it typically evokes the feeling of weakness, perhaps? But I always find it's the "nice" ones who kill with kindness, smarts, and class. And kick-ass when needed. And so-called "Shy Boys." Not so shy from experience. Hahaha.

The ones I found to be "weak" per se were the overly yucky types who try to hit on you and give off that feeling of desperation. *shudders*

And the overly aggressive types I stayed far away from. *spooky*

Yeah, glad I chose to be with a nice guy.

You pretty much nailed it.

 

[Addendum]

Sometimes I feel like there's way too many rules and expectations when it comes stuff like this.

Exactly, which is why I don't even bother with relationships

 

[Paradoxium]

Let's be blunt, I don't think many Nice Guys actually exist, just a lot of spineless and/or unassertive ones. You can be assertive without beating women up.

I've come to the conclusion there is no point in pointing this fact out to other guys with this problem. It's all economics => less competition. So it's all good for me t:

 

[RockSP]

Just because a man is nice to you, doesn't mean he can't protect you. Some women need to take a time out and think.

Ding Ding Ding!!!

Some of these so called women need this tatooed on their foreheads so they can see it every morning in the mirror.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Haven't there been countless threads like this in the past? And haven't there been countless discussions like this in other threads? I don't get why there needs to be an "official" thread on this.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

oh man i'm reading this thread proves how much a pain in the ass women are...its like some people have to learn to be someone else to get laid,.

just be yourself. you want something go and get it...women want to be wanted, doesn't matter who you are what you look like, just go for it...

girls want it just as much as any guy wants it and thats a Fact. People are easy...

 

[Sarge 2.0]

oh man i'm reading this thread proves how much a pain in the ass women are...its like some people have to learn to be someone else to get laid,.

just be yourself. you want something go and get it...women want to be wanted, doesn't matter who you are what you look like, just go for it...

girls want it just as much as any guy wants it and thats a Fact. People are easy...

Way to crank up your usual misogyny to new heights.

 

[imdaly]

3. You start texting a woman you just began dating five or six times a day. You are over-texting her. You don't need to check in every two hours. That's a sign of neediness and clingy behavior that turns women off.

The girl I'm into right now doesn't use the phone anymore for calls, she texts CONSTANTLY. Texts ME constantly. But I think I'm okay with this part because I'm not usually the one to start the texting convos.

5. You agree with everything the woman you're dating says. Women are not looking for a man who agrees with everything they say. Women want a man who challenges them and from whom they can learn. When a man agrees with everything a woman says, he is telling her that he'll do anything to have a relationship (which is another sign of being needy).

I have a lot in common with the girl I'm after right now. We just naturally agree with a lot of things and have a lot of common interests. But there's been a couple things that I haven't been interested in until I've been around her, and vice versa. A big example being football. She's a HUGE Steelers fan, and I've never cared a bit about football at all. Heck, I didn't even know how the game worked until one day she brought over a tape of one of their games and we watched it as she explained the game to me. Now I actually find myself watching and paying attention to their games on my own. I've learned from her and we now have even more common ground to talk about.

7. You are too available. If you have plans with a friend, keep those plans even if the woman you're dating asks you to do something that night. Women don't want men who are like a 7-Eleven -- convenient and ready 24/7.

With me, it's just a sad fact that the town I live in has NOTHING to ever do, so unless I'm working I usually AM always available.

8. You try to please a woman all the time. I'm all about men doing nice things for women, but she has to earn it. Some men will let a woman walk all over them, and then continue to be a sponge and allow it over and over again. Stand up for yourself and she'll respect you more. Letting a woman walk all over you is a clear sign to her that you're needy.

THIS is by FAR my biggest problem. I've got more footprints on me than Virginia Beach during Spring Break.

9. Don't be afraid to challenge a woman. If you don't agree with something a woman says, don't just sit there and agree with her thinking it's what she wants. Women are looking for someone who is going to stimulate their mind... not bore them. Women are not turned on by men they can completely control.

Here's an irony: One thing we disagree on is Chris Brown. She loves him (still) and I can't stand the woman-abuser.

10. Be the man! Have a plan and stick with it. Women like men who plan out evenings of fun.

Don't always ask a woman what she wants to do. Listen to what she likes when you're having conversations with her, then come up with a fun plan that you will already know she'll like. A needy man will do whatever a woman wants. A man of action will create plans for what they will do. Being a man of action will lead her to find you a lot more attractive in the long run.

Again...in my town there IS nothing to plan. Although she LOVES zoos and haven't been to one in a long time, so next weekend I think we're going to go to the Columbus Zoo.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

Way to crank up your usual misogyny to new heights.

it works man....but another way is
in all reality every girl that i was with, were turned on by intelegnce, strength and anger for some reason....passion? that and helping them in some way, either by being there for them or helping them with something...but from the start you have to show them you like them with out saying it...

it works. and by the third day every time you will get the girl. Girls are easier than they let on.

 

[RockSP]

8. You try to please a woman all the time. I'm all about men doing nice things for women, but she has to earn it. Some men will let a woman walk all over them, and then continue to be a sponge and allow it over and over again. Stand up for yourself and she'll respect you more. Letting a woman walk all over you is a clear sign to her that you're needy.

So treat women like an animal you're training. Got it.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

some people are animals...not everyones the same. looks have nothing to do with it, a girl can be hot but she can also be a filthy animal...don't think so? theirs so many exploiting themselves out there like filthy animals...

 

[Logan's Runt]

Not everyone's the same...but all women are a pain in the ass and easy? Got it.

 

[Alex The Great]

I'm a nice guy and I never get the womens, I'm on the High School soccer team, I get good grades, I don't look half bad *cough* and I'm not an idiotic rebel who gets suspended/expelled every week.

*sigh*

 

[The Squirrel]

I'm a nice guy and I never get the womens, I'm on the High School soccer team, I get good grades, I don't look half bad *cough* and I'm not an idiotic rebel who gets suspended/expelled every week.

*sigh*

Well there's your problem right there.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

I'm a nice guy and I never get the womens, I'm on the High School soccer team, I get good grades, I don't look half bad *cough* and I'm not an idiotic rebel who gets suspended/expelled every week.

*sigh*

give girls attention man, do what your doing now but they like focus on them...i swear every time i get focused on work school or whatever girls think you can give a crap about them....they like attention.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I'm a nice guy and I never get the womens, I'm on the High School soccer team, I get good grades, I don't look half bad *cough* and I'm not an idiotic rebel who gets suspended/expelled every week.

*sigh*

Live a little, get suspended.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

From here on out, the bickering ends. I think everyone - well, mostly everyone - is capable of participating in a discussion respectfully.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

yeah i agree lets keep it light,

back on subject haha what is this?

"the Jerk Appeal"

http://www.askmen.com/dating/heidi/heidi15.html

 

[TheFuture]

Meh.

Indifference is the key. Everytime I talk to a female I approach it with a mentality of "it's just a conversation" and I treat them with an interest, yet disinterest at the same time. Believe it or not, women end up asking me out. And I'm a nice bloke, it's just a case of carrying yourself with a quiet confidence.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

yeah its true^, every girl iv been with made the move first, and its cause i treated them that way...

 

[TheFuture]

yeah its true^, every girl iv been with made the move first, and its cause i treated them that way...

Ha well I learned from experience. I've ended up looking like a right sadcase at times so I made a promise to myself to never do the running. If someone doesn't feel attracted to me then that's fine, I won't lose any sleep over it.

 

[Alex The Great]

Live a little, get suspended.

No way, the coach would have my penis. Were in the playoffs for crying out loud

 

[Wylie Times]

Women do go for nice guys, but many men who think they're these alleged "nice guys" aren't really nice, they're wimps who allow people to walk all over them but try to play it off as just being "nice." They even advertise the fact that they're "so nice," when in actuality, it's just a cover up for being an awkward dater/needy.

That's basically it in a nutshell. Being a "nice guy" doesn't mean you're Mr softee doormat Mcboo-hoo, it just means you a decent person but also that you have a spine.

This might as well be a spinoff to that friend zone thread.

 

[I'm Old Greg]

Ha well I learned from experience. I've ended up looking like a right sadcase at times so I made a promise to myself to never do the running. If someone doesn't feel attracted to me then that's fine, I won't lose any sleep over it.

exactly which leaves your self esteem intact and ready for the next one.