Official JLA discussion thread - Part 2

[Czar Colossus]

Barda and Mr Miracle are the ones from New Genesis I'm worried about

I hope they don't change them too much

Agreed..... but right now I'd say no one is safe.

 

[Mystirious]

If their costumes have seams I'mma be

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well prepared to be just very . I mean, really, what are the odds that they won't?

 

[Mystirious]

We can always hope they'll stay true to the classic design

But there probably isn't much hope of that

 

[SlamAdams]

So Pandora threatens Phantom Stranger it seems by revealing is true identity. Do you think he is a preexisting character, or simply not that big of a reveal?

 

[Hush]

Phantom has been around a long time who could he be? It'd be neat if he turned out to be Alan Scott and that the idea of Phantom Stranger ended up being a mantel like The Spectre.

 

[SlamAdams]

Phantom has been around a long time who could he be? It'd be neat if he turned out to be Alan Scott and that the idea of Phantom Stranger ended up being a mantel like The Spectre.

He has been around for a long time. I think one possible origin story implied he was the Wandering Jew. But if he was a character who died and than started perceiving time non-linearly he could be essentially time travel. I totally overthought it, but my first thought after reading was. "I bet he they'll be a who's the Phantom Stranger arc." My second though was I hope its not Thomas Wayne.

 

[CrimsonMist]

He has been around for a long time. I think one possible origin story implied he was the Wandering Jew. But if he was a character who died and than started perceiving time non-linearly he could be essentially time travel. I totally overthought it, but my first thought after reading was. "I bet he they'll be a who's the Phantom Stranger arc." My second though was I hope its not Thomas Wayne.

I think the origin that was generally accepted was the one that Alan Moore came up with: that he was an angel who didn't pick a side to be on during the war in Heaven. Heaven didn't want him and Hell didn't either and so he was forced to wander the earth and watch what goes on and sometimes make sure that certain things happen like they're supposed to.

It would be great if the Phantom Stranger remains untouched though. If there are multiple earths, and the Stranger is aware that Pandora changed things up, then I like to think that the Phantom Stranger is still the same Phantom Stranger that he's always been. He exists outside the realm of the new-52.

 

[SlamAdams]

It would be great if the Phantom Stranger remains untouched though. If there are multiple earths, and the Stranger is aware that Pandora changed things up, then I like to think that the Phantom Stranger is still the same Phantom Stranger that he's always been. He exists outside the realm of the new-52.

I'm not implying they changed him. I'm sure he is the same Stranger that he has always been since he remembers before the reboot, but Pandora brought up his "true name" or something like that so obviously they are building to revealing some canon truth about Stranger. The "Who is so and so" arcs tend to be about having a character reveal themselves to be a preexisting character, the only reason I proposed anything about PS in the first place.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

If Phantom Stranger managed to escape the relaunch unscathed there is hope that The Spectre did also.

 

[Watchman]

Oh come on now! Do you we really have to make the Phantom Stranger and the New Gods lame?

 

[Mystirious]

The New Gods are still Kirby ness over in OMAC

Mokkari and his Evil Factory and the female furies getting some love

 

[Watchman]

Yes, but that book will be dead soon.

Hopefully, we'll see Earth Kirby in Multiversity. I'm far from excited to see what revisions make on the New Gods and Phantom Stranger.

 

[Drz]

The NEW YORK POST revealed today the exclusive first look at SHAZAM! in DC COMICS-THE NEW 52. The new interpretation of this iconic character will debut in the seventh issue of JUSTICE LEAGUE, the comic book industry’s current bestselling title, in a new ongoing back-up story that will re-imagine the character’s magical origins. Designed and illustrated by New York Times bestselling artist Gary Frank, SHAZAM! will be written by critically acclaimed writer and DC Entertainment Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns.

“With SHAZAM! Gary and I will be focusing on the magic hero instead of the super hero,” Johns told THE SOURCE. “For centuries, science has ruled the world, but now magic is returning. We’re telling the story of the hero’s young alter ego, Billy Batson, a foster kid at a crossroads in his life. The question is, how does the emotional journey of this troubled teenager collide with the fate of the world? The Rock of Eternity and the legacy of SHAZAM! will be explored in a different way as the extent of Billy’s connection to the magic world around him is greater than ever before. The story will have a profound impact on Justice League later in the year and you’ll see new characters, locations and creatures along with the classics from the SHAZAM! universe. Billy’s friends and enemies will be along for the ride.”

“You’ll notice that SHAZAM! looks different from many of the other heroes we’ve seen in DC COMICS-THE NEW 52,” said editor Brian Cunningham. “That was definitely intentional. His powers come from a different place, and we wanted to see that reflected in the design. We’ve removed the “circus strongman” elements from his costume. Rather than a traditional cape, he wears a cloak with a hood; there’s more of a mystical, magical, fantasy feel to that.”

Head over to the NY POST to check out SHAZAM’s new look, and don’t miss his debut in JUSTICE LEAGUE #7 – with a lead story also written by Johns, with art by Gene Ha. JUSTICE LEAGUE #7 lands in comic book stores on March 21.

NY Post Article:

Shazam! With one lightning-infused magic word, DC Comics has relaunched one of its most iconic characters, reviving the superhero known since 1939 as Captain Marvel and renaming and supercharging him with a heavy double dose of mysticism and magic.

“We changed his name [to Shazam] for a lot of reasons,” said Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns. “One of them is that Shazam is the word most associated with the character, so we just felt it made sense — a lot of people already thought that was his name, anyway.”

With a new origin, a cowl, a lightning bolt on his chest, and a penchant for causing electrical appliances to explode, Shazam still bears similarities to the original hero, including the power to change from feisty teen Billy Batson into a superhero by uttering the magic word that is now his name.
REAL MARVEL: Captain Marvel is now Shazam.
REAL MARVEL: Captain Marvel is now Shazam.

The new Shazam debuts March 21 as a side story in Justice League No. 7.

“His place in the world will be far more rooted in fantasy and magic than it ever was before,” Johns said

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/intern...es_again_puMbHg6BYwirdrl3U9BYwL#ixzz1oG2qIrfx

Well now. Instead of looking like a Superman analogue or a Superman fanboy he looks like a Wizard on stereoids. I gotta say it's not something i had in my mind being worried, but it's still rather unnecessary don't you think? Oh, i do like the chest having blue electrified lightning, because at least he and Flash look more different now lol. The hood gives a wizardly vibe, but we all know it's there for style points.

 

[hippie_hunter]

At first I was optimistic about the Curse of Shazam, but now.....I'm not at all. That's a pretty cool design, but not for Billy Batson. And yeah, they're pretty much thrown out all the good aspects of Captain Marvel.

 

[Batman]

It's actually not nearly as bad as I thought it'd be. You can still quite clearly recognize it as Marvel, and more of the essential elements are in there than with other character designs. Hell, he actually looks kind of cool there. And I like the emphasis on fantasy with the character, it could be really interesting.

 

[Franklin Richards]

I like it. You know that hood will get shredded in close combat. And it distinguishes him in the Supermen Archetypes.

 

[Harlekin]

It's very unlikely the Stranger will be a pre-existing character. He is a pre-existing character.

 

[Mystirious]

I'm pretty okay with Captain Marvel's new look its basically his classic costume but with a hood

 

[Anubis]

It'd be kinda nice if they lost the hood, made the cape white, the tunic red, annnnd that's about it. I kinda dig the tuinc thing. Stands out. Has a Hercules thing going for it.

But it's black. There is a hood. And it's probably gonna lose all traces of Captain Marvel and just be another grim/dark *****e in a world filled with grim/dark *****es.....sigh......I'm not even surprised.

 

[SlamAdams]

It'd be kinda nice if they lost the hood, made the cape white, the tunic red, annnnd that's about it. I kinda dig the tuinc thing. Stands out. Has a Hercules thing going for it.

But it's black. There is a hood. And it's probably gonna lose all traces of Captain Marvel and just be another grim/dark *****e in a world filled with grim/dark *****es.....sigh......I'm not even surprised.

Looks like a white cape and a red tunic to me

 

[Anubis]

Looks black to me.....could be shadow. We'll see.

 

[SlamAdams]

Its definitely a shadow, his arms are red.

 

[Mystirious]

It'd be kinda nice if they lost the hood, made the cape white, the tunic red, annnnd that's about it. I kinda dig the tuinc thing. Stands out. Has a Hercules thing going for it.

But it's black. There is a hood. And it's probably gonna lose all traces of Captain Marvel and just be another grim/dark *****e in a world filled with grim/dark *****es.....sigh......I'm not even surprised.

I'm really hoping he's going to be an optimistic happy character and not a grim depressing violent jerk

The version in Young Justice is pretty fab Cap should be written like that

 

[Anubis]

Its definitely a shadow, his arms are red.

You sure? Looks like bare skin to me. Hence the Tunic remark.