The Official WONDER WOMAN Discussion Thread - Part 2

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Manic said:
I know what's ridiculous: that some of her fans think giving her anything other than panties or a skirt will destroy her character.

Fixed. And I'm not trying to directly insult any fans, but...well the quoted post says it all.

Interesting that you 'fixed' that statement by taking out the first part. You think that giving tights to the character is inherently going to improve the comic is ridiculous, eh?'

No I do not think that giving tights fixes whether or not her comic is a hit. The idea that I quoted is what I was insulting. That by Wonder Woman having the first look she had when the reboot was announced, that it was going to somehow destroy her as a character or make her less likable.
 
Odyssey must have sold so well because of all the hype the suit got, the advertisments, the writer's name, and because it was an event. I consider it a really bad story that isnt worth it the number's its selling.

I think so, yeah. Who knows, obviously. I can't go out and poll everyone who bought it or anything, but I find it pretty doubtful that pants aloud weathered that.

No I do not think that giving tights fixes whether or not her comic is a hit. The idea that I quoted is what I was insulting. That by Wonder Woman having the first look she had when the reboot was announced, that it was going to somehow destroy her as a character or make her less likable.

I realized what you were saying, but I mostly found it pretty interesting that you found that worth insulting in two pretty equaling worthy of insulting ideas. I'm also still kind of curious as to who around here was really arguing that viewpoint to begin with, but we can be nice about it and say it was a general statement brought on by the conversation at hand. [Bill Hick's voice]Okay.......okay[/Bill Hick's voice]
 
Like I said in my first post quoting Manic's post, it was a general comment to the fans who straight up FLIPPED OUT about that sort of thing. If you did not like it, fine, but there are people all over online who literally wanted to collect heads of the DC staff: "What?!?! Pants?!?! NOOOOO!!!".
 
Yeah, I am well aware that there are people who flipped out about it, but there wasn't very much of that around here, and considering the positioning of it, I couldn't help but wonder exactly what either of you were actually talking about. A general thing, I guess I get, but it's strange to me to just throw stuff like that that out there without much context behind it.
 
But anywho, in non-costume related talk, just finished 613.

Not a whole lot to really say about it. It's all just kind of Nemesis explaining what happened and all of that stuff. They aren't as blatant about it as last issue, but there's still that bizarre implication that somehow Wonder Woman has more love for humanity in this Odyssey version. Which, as I argued before, is just flatout BS. But beside that, it was kind of neat seeing the two WW come together into the new old version or whatever. It's kind of like the favorite line from this issue, 'Sister, this isn't you. Or me--Or whatever.' It does just kind of feel like whatever at this point, anyway.

There were two things that really did catch my attention. I guess they're spoilers and all, but considering how no one else outside me and Drz seem to end be reading this thing anymore, much less caring about, I'll take out the spoiler tags. If you are, just heed this as your warning of potential spoilers.

-The first one is kind of minor, but it did hit a bizarre cord. So, back in the old timeline Diana fought the Morrigan because they were going to attack Paradise Island, and they overpowered her. Well, okay. The thing that stood out in that exchange is that WW came alone, which they commented on, and she responded by saying, 'Who do you think I am! I know Batman and Superman!' I just can't for the life of my understand what that is suppose to imply. I guess they are showing Wonder Woman was arrogant because she simply knew Batman & Superman? That was something that, while fairly minor, I couldn't help but go back and read it again. Very strange.

-The other part is a little bigger. After they beat Diana and take her form, they then talk about attacking Paradise Island. The only problem is that, according to early issues, Paradise Island was attacked when Diana was two years old. So, what exactly happened there? Did the timeline just...like instantly change when Diana was overpowered, and the Morrigan didn't realize? Though, they had to have since the invaders were looking for Diana specifically, and then Nemesis admits they even manipulated her in Man's World. So...yeah. It feels like there's a very large gap there that's just kind of ignored.

I guess you can explain that away in two ways simply enough: 1) They just kind of instantly realized the timeline changed just didn't say it aloud or 2) They didn't realize it at the time, but as they looked at the world around them they realized it and retooled their plans. Either are good enough reasons, but it felt like there needed to be some kind of indication. It just felt sort of wonky without one.

And, of the non-spoiler variety, I glanced through the letters page, and it was noted that there are no plans in the immediate future for Steve Trevor. So, it's doubtful for him to appear in the relaunch.
 
If you can't think of anyone on the Hype my post could have been referring to, then let it be and just assume I wasn't talking about anyone here. And that's the most you're getting out of me on that topic.
 
Well, I had let it be, so to speak, since I changed the subject in the post right above about 20 minutes ago :o

Actually, I can think of who you may very well be referring to considering the time frame of the post, but like I said, I was being nice about it and giving benefit of the doubt.
 
I'm gonna guess [blackout]Mr Earlie[/blackout]

Of course he got banned......so you're kinda talking about him behind his back....or to his disembodied negative zone digital soul. :o
 
Nah, Mr. Earle loved the pants and hated the classic costume I think. He had a hard-on for a covered up Wonder Woman, ironically enough.
 
Tron Bonne said:
Not a whole lot to really say about it. It's all just kind of Nemesis explaining what happened and all of that stuff. They aren't as blatant about it as last issue, but there's still that bizarre implication that somehow Wonder Woman has more love for humanity in this Odyssey version. Which, as I argued before, is just flatout BS.

Agreed

There is no way that the Odyssey version of the character is more loving than the original Wonder Woman

And, of the non-spoiler variety, I glanced through the letters page, and it was noted that there are no plans in the immediate future for Steve Trevor. So, it's doubtful for him to appear in the relaunch.

:up: :woot: :up:
 
I like how DC gave WW a new boring looking logo. Espically in the color grey!? really?
 
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Yeah, it's not a very exciting logo at all. It's not horrible or anything, but does give a very bland flavor and all. It's also worth noting that on the finalized JL cover she's still wearing pants. But I also noticed she has much shorter hair in that shot, too. So, I'm guessing that she wore pants to begin with and then switched since JL is set in the past and WW doesn't seem to be considering Chiang's comments at SDCC. Or it's possible she swaps between them. Or, in more far-fetched theories, the retractable pants joke wasn't a joke at all :o
 
Part of me wants to get this book now. Dunno why. Before I didn't want to.
 
That stupid sexy Chiang art?
 
Deep down you know you love the shorts?

Deep down I've always loved the concept of Wonder Woman, just nothing ever kept me hooked.

I almost got hooked when I saw the covers with Achilles and such, but when I picked up the prior issues it was like "the Greek Gods are back but for some reason they are in space jump suits and arrived by some space ship, etc etc" and I just went ":dry:" and dropped that ****.
 
but there's still that bizarre implication that somehow Wonder Woman has more love for humanity in this Odyssey version. Which, as I argued before, is just flatout BS.
I was about to pick it up when i read this. They seriously did that? That is so disrespectful to the character and her fans throughout the years.
 
Well, come September there's a good chance this horrible story wont be in continuity anyway. :o
 
Well, from what I can see in that image, the yellow/golden parts of her costume are grey now... so her logo has to be grey too
 
I was about to pick it up when i read this. They seriously did that? That is so disrespectful to the character and her fans throughout the years.

Well the new Diana is practically 98% of the old Diana and Nemesis only has the hollow shell of Diana because Clotho and the gods altered the world and thus provided time to alter Diana, delay and now ultimately ruin Nemesis' plans. I mean Diana has been going thru alot with Darkseid corrupting her, Nekron corrupting her, but she also has shown she loves the world more than anyone else so her falling to Nemesis' blade might seem like flatout ******** to alot.

I wouldn't say it's disrespectful to the fans, but the story could have been written off better, it has neat concepts but it's a Modern Warfare meets Anime story.
 
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