Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - Part 5

[regwec]

Really? He looks pretty much as one would expect an elf, I would have thought.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Really? He looks pretty much as one would expect an elf, I would have thought.

I mean the whole promotional presence to draw in the ladies thing. At least in his case though he was balanced out by Aragorn's presence as well (also a draw for the ladies).

 

[regwec]

Oh, right. I suppose it worked out for them, there, though you feel that an Elf is a better target for that sort of enterprise than a Dwarf.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I didn't even notice the beardless one until it was pointed out, I just don't see an issue with having a central character that looks like he'd be capable of getting a non hairy Lady.

No, that's one of the main baddie Orcs in the film. The Goblin King looks more like Jabba the Hutt.

Has there been a solo pic of this main Orc yet?

 

[Boom]

 

[craigdbfan]

I didn't even notice the beardless one until it was pointed out, I just don't see an issue with having a central character that looks like he'd be capable of getting a non hairy Lady.

It's such an overblown exaggeration.

I too didn't even notice until people here started to bring it up.

 

[ThePhantasm]

The White Council?

 

[Boom]

Yes sir.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That White Council poster is the sex.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Does anyone know if any of the movies get a little bit more large scale in action? One of the biggest appeals to me about Lord of the Rings were the huge war scenes, will any future instalments have any, because so far it seems pretty small. A few dwarfs and a hobbit travelling through a cave to kill a dragon, thats cool and all but I'm hoping for a little bit more soon.

The Battle of Five Armies is about as big scale action as you can get. I mean, five different armies going at it at once...

 

[Kane52630]

Yeah, the Battle of Five Armies is gonna be a huge battle.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Is it artistic license that Beorn is depicted as that huge, or does that reflect the novel? Its been a few years since I last read it.

 

[warhorse78]

That's only because all the hormones in our foods have turned men today into man/girls and we cant grow beards worth a damn.

But it doesnt matter when the beard went out of style. Dwarves are born with beards. Trimming or going for a style is one thing. Stubble is just strange for a dwarf.

I guess you haven't seen too many bikers, huh?

 

[warhorse78]

I don't think Martin Freeman is that bad-looking of a fellow, not to mention the fact that these movies also have Orlando Bloom, Lee Pace, and Luke Evans. Couple them with Cate Blanchett and Evangeline Lilly as the strong female characters, and there are enough attractive people in these films without this added distraction. Sorry if that makes me a harping purist, but that's what it is to me. This is an adaptation of Tolkien's work, and this is as un-Tolkien as you can get (albeit from a purely visual perspective).

But let's say Jackson's hands were tied, and Heartthrob Dwarf was a studio mandate. Here is Aidan Turner at the Hobbit press conference in February 2011:

Is he really suddenly that unattractive with the beard? You've got women tripping over themselves at the sight of Chris Emsworth in Thor Mode, yet this would have been unnacceptable? I mean, really? Since when were full beards so frowned upon by the female population?

Granted, I'd still prefer a longer beard than this (nitpicker, I know), but as far as choosing between the lesser of two evils, that right there is a vast improvement over what we got. Leaps and bounds. Because at least that right there holds true to the text - in that all dwarves (male and female) have beards since birth.

He grows an epic beard out for the press conference, then shaves it off two weeks later to play a Tolkien dwarf. Talk about a cruel joke.

Personally, I dislike beards, and yes, he looks much better without it. Either way, it's happening, a young dwarf with a not so prominent beard, and those who don't like it either have to accept it, or move on.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Just kidding that sounds awesome as hell, any idea which movie it will be in? An Unexpected Journey, Desolation of Smaug or There and Back Again?

Almost certainly the last one, as it is the grand finale. The other two films will have plenty of badass action, but probably on a smaller scale a la FOTR.

 

[rashad]

 

[Marvolo]

I guess you haven't seen too many bikers, huh?

Yes and once again i said these people are older and not of my generation. Im in my twenties. The hormones comment was a joke, but it is a concern of scientists. The abundance of hormones has altered my generations and the millenial generations hormones. There are children hitting puberty at 9 years old and the only thing scientists can figure out is the hormones in our canned and processed foods is causing it. But that is a topic that doesnt belong here.

My biggest wtf regarding Kili is that to a dwarf woman he would not be attractive. He would be a weird midget human. If they wanted to make him an attractive dwarf he should have been attractive by dwarf standards not human standards. His looks wont kill my enjoyment. The storyline between him and tauriel might tho. I liked the story between Gimli and Galadriel. It was small and endearing. If its like that then I might just be pleased. If Tauriel and Kili turn into Arogorn/Arwen 2.0 I may have a problem.

 

[ThePhantasm]

The storyline between him and tauriel might. I liked the story between Gimli and Galadriel. It was small and endearing. If Tauriel and Kili turn into Arogorn/Arwen 2.0 I may have a problem.

The what? What story between him and Tauriel?

 

[Marvolo]

The what? What story between him and Tauriel?

There is a supposed love angle between Kili and Tauriel.

 

[ThePhantasm]

There is a supposed love angle between Kili and Tauriel.

Not that I don't believe you, but where are you getting this from? I haven't heard / read anything about that. All I know about Tauriel is that she is supposed to be a Mirkwood guard...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There has been talk that Tauriel is suppose to be in love with either a Dwarf or another Elf.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Hobbits don't grow beards. That's why

They do, just not on their faces. Look at their feet.

 

[ThePhantasm]

There has been talk that Tauriel is suppose to be in love with either a Dwarf or another Elf.

Another Elf I can understand, but a Dwarf... that just doesn't even make sense. That would be incredibly stupid.

 

[Boom]

Is it artistic license that Beorn is depicted as that huge, or does that reflect the novel? Its been a few years since I last read it.

In human form, Beorn is about 9-10 feet tall. To quote the text:

"As for Bilbo [3'6"] he could easily have trotted through his legs without ducking his head to miss the fringe of the man's brown tunic [which came down to Beorn's knees]."

In bear form, Beorn could grow to near-giant size. During the Battle of Five Armies, he threw goblins and Wargs around like "straw and feathers," and their arrows couldn't even pierce his skin.

In short, Beorn is a boss.

 

[ThePhantasm]

In human form, Beorn is about 9-10 feet tall. To quote the text:

"As for Bilbo [3'6"] he could easily have trotted through his legs without ducking his head to miss the fringe of the man's brown tunic [which came down to Beorn's knees]."

In bear form, Beorn could grow to near-giant size. During the Battle of Five Armies, he threw goblins and Wargs around like rag dolls, and their arrows couldn't even pierce his skin.

In short, Beorn is a boss.

Thanks for the clarification. Heck yeah, bring on some giant Beorn badassery.