Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - Part 6

[Marvolo]

Based on what ive seen of it, no.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I'm not liking the action figures I've seen on the shelves. A step down from the LOTR.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Does anyone else have a bad feeling about this film?

I'll admit a vague nervous feeling. It seems like not everything quite reaches the LOTR quality (the soundtrack being a prime example).

But overall I'm pretty excited about the movie. I love the Hobbit. I think it is going to be a very different film from the LOTR trilogy (much as the Hobbit book is very different from the book trilogy) in tone and style, and I think that might put a lot of people off, but I'm curious to see how they accomplish it.

 

[Kane52630]

Q&A ON HFR 3D - Peter Jackson

http://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-jackson/qa-on-hfr-3d/10151299493836558

QUESTION: Why did you shoot The Hobbit Trilogy using the High Frame Rate (HFR) format?



PETER JACKSON: We live in a rapidly advancing digital age. Technology is being continually developed that can enhance and enrich the cinema-going experience. High Frame Rate shooting for a mainstream feature film has only become viable in the last year or two, and yet we live in an age of increasing home entertainment. I started shooting The Hobbit films in HFR because I wanted film audiences to experience just how remarkably immersive the theatrical cinema experience can be.





QUESTION: What is the history of frame rates and why do you think the time has come to increase them in the theater?



PETER JACKSON: Silent movies were shot at somewhere between 16 and 18 frames per second (fps) with hand-cranked cameras. In 1927, when sound came along, the industry needed to agree on a motor-driven, constant camera speed. 35mm film stock is very expensive, so it needs to be as slow as possible. However, the early optical soundtrack required a minimum speed to achieve fidelity of the sound. 24 fps was decided on, and became the industry standard for over 80 years, with cinemas all around the world installing mechanical projectors only capable of projecting at 24 fps. 24 fps was a commercial decision — the cheapest speed to provide basic quality — but it produces movement artifacts, like strobing, flicker and motion blur.



Now, in the digital age, there’s no reason whatsoever to stick to 24 fps. We didn’t get it perfect in 1927. Science tells us that the human eye stops seeing individual pictures at about 55 fps. Therefore, shooting at 48 fps gives you much more of an illusion of real life. The reduced motion blur on each frame increases sharpness and gives the movie the look of having been shot in 65mm or IMAX. One of the biggest advantages is the fact that your eye is seeing twice the number of images each second, giving the movie a wonderful immersive quality. It makes the 3D experience much more gentle and hugely reduces eyestrain. Much of what makes 3D viewing uncomfortable for some people is the fact that each eye is processing a lot of strobing, blur and flicker. This all but disappears in HFR 3D.





QUESTION: Having shot the film using HFR technology, what are your thoughts on the experience?



PETER JACKSON: I think HFR is terrific. As a filmmaker, I try to make my movies immersive. I want to draw the audience out of their seats, and pull them into the adventure. That is the experience I hope to offer moviegoers no matter which format they choose at the theater. While I personally prefer watching The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey in HFR 3D, I can assure you that every format will provide you with an incredible and immersive experience.



HFR 3D is “different” — it won’t feel like the movies you’re used to seeing, in much the same way as the first CDs didn’t sound like vinyl records. We live in an age when cinemas are competing with iPads and home entertainment systems. I think it’s critical that filmmakers employ current technology to increase the immersive, spectacular experience that cinema should provide. It’s an exciting time to be going to the movies.

 

[Victarion]

Those hobbits seem pretty nonchalant considering the ****ing dragons flying around the Shire.

Pipeweed.

 

[Octoberist]

Does anyone else have a bad feeling about this film?

It's only good to be cautious optimistic about a film like this. I've been burnt out before by disappointments - everyone has -- and its best to guage your expectations.

I love geekdom but it can be a culture of extremes. It's either the greatest thing or the worst thing, as if you're required to drive your at 200 MPh at all times. Or blind hate or blind love. There are exceptions of course but its best to create a safety net.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Pipeweed.

"Dude, I'm totally ****-ed up. I need you to talk me through this."

"It's okay, man. I see the dragons too."

"One of them has, like, instead of a dragon's face, has got Jim Morrison's face."

"Whoa. That's messed up."

"Pass me some of those hobbit cookies. And you got any twinkies?"

"Naw, man, they don't make those any more."

"Dude, no!"

 

[Brain Damage]

"Dude, I'm totally ****-ed up. I need you to talk me through this."

"It's okay, man. I see the dragons too."

"One of them has, like, instead of a dragon's face, has got Jim Morrison's face."

"Whoa. That's messed up."

"Pass me some of those hobbit cookies. And you got any twinkies?"

"Naw, man, they don't make those any more."

"Dude, no!"

 

[jacobed]

Man of Steel and The Wolverine will have trailers attached The Hobbit

 

[Still Wynning]

Man of Steel and The Wolverine will have trailers attached The Hobbit

Where did you hear about that?

 

[CGHulk]

Where did you hear about that?

http://emileeid.com/2012/11/17/trailer-updates-the-wolverine-star-trek-into-darkness-more/

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Based on what ive seen of it, no.

I still have fears for the next two films, especially the last one, but this looks terrific. Very FOTR. I am starting to get excited instead of nervous, which is a good feeling.

 

[Bruce Malone]

There seems to be a lot of bad press going around now about the 27 or so animals that are reported to have died on set.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

27? That seems like quite a lot.

 

[Super Kal]

im watching FOTR right now, and i'm kinda hoping that The Hobbit explains the opening battle scene that we see in FOTR... i would love to see that entire battle in a movie

 

[Solidus]

The Last Alliance of Elves and Men? That would be a long movie, and really not needed. It really does not need...."explaining". It was just that, a last alliance, and they made a push into Mordor to destroy Sauron once and for all. Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's hand and because of this Sauron survived.

There is further detail of how the they got together and did all of this. But really the purpose of it was to show how the ring was lost by Sauron. That was the entire point and nothing is needed further.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The only time it would make sense to come up would be with The White Council, and only briefly.

 

[Super Kal]

i think it would be a great movie, and add to the lore of these movies... to see the creation of all the rings, the creation of the One Ring, the creation of the Last Alliance, and the first battle against Sauron at the edge of Mt Doom.

i would watch that

 

[Solidus]

It would just be a drawn out thing. The main story points are just there to support what is needed to know about the Ring. Honestly the films did a great job showing the story. I think dragging out would just not be necessary or that fun to watch.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

i think it would be a great movie, and add to the lore of these movies... to see the creation of all the rings, the creation of the One Ring, the creation of the Last Alliance, and the first battle against Sauron at the edge of Mt Doom.

i would watch that

But it has nothing to do with the story of The Hobbit. That is a completely different film.

Also, it really is superfluous. The creation of the rings, the Last Alliance, etc. is the backstory. The stuff you don't see but simply adds color and weight to the world.

 

[Super Kal]

it may not be part of the Hobbit, but it is part of the history of the world that Tolkein created, and i want to see the backstory.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

it may not be part of the Hobbit, but it is part of the history of the world that Tolkein created, and i want to see the backstory.

But then why bring it up with the Hobbit then?

 

[Super Kal]

But then why bring it up with the Hobbit then?

because last time i checked, they dont have a sub-forum dedicated to this franchise... unless i missed something

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well there is the LOTR thread, but that is beside the point. It was the bit about you wanting The Hobbit to explain it.

 

[Super Kal]

and i still would like it to because the Hobbit is IN that world...