Official 'The Hobbit' Thread

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But look how it thins out at the bottom. You can see his robe through it.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

That picture of Gandalf kicks ass.

 

[Timstuff]

Alan Moore is in this movie!?

 

[Timstuff]

Well correct me if I am wrong Tolkienites, but aren't Thranduil & his people like the hick, bumkins of the elf world? As opposed to the high elves of Elrond & Galadriel's realms, I mean.

Not exactly. Thranduil (the king of the Mirkwood elves) is a gray elf, meaning he is a descendant of the dark elves, who never made a pilgrimage to the sacred land in the west. Because the dark elves never went to the sacred land, they do not have a connection to the spirit world. They intermingled with the light elves, and the result was "gray elves," who have a connection to the spirit world but it is weaker than that of light elves, and thus they more easily tempted by things like wealth and power. Thranduil's son Legolas is only half gray elf, so he is more level-headed and spiritually aware than his father.

 

[Erundur]

My God! yes, its happening :eeks:

 

[Boom]

I'm just glad to see Gandalf the Grey again.

I love both incarnations of Gandalf in the books, but I wasn't much of a fan of Gandalf the White in the films - especially RoTK. He didn't look like a wizard to me at all, and outside of him exorcizing Saruman from Theoden's mind in TTT, I never got the impression that he was stronger than Gandalf the Grey.

Oh, and the Witch-King breaking his staff was ****ing weak . One of the worst aspects of the film trilogy.

 

[Timstuff]

I'm just glad to see Gandalf the Grey again.

I love both incarnations of Gandalf in the books, but I wasn't much of a fan of Gandalf the White in the films - especially RoTK. He didn't look like a wizard to me at all, and outside of him exorcizing Saruman from Theoden's mind in TTT, I never got the impression that he was stronger than Gandalf the Grey.

Oh, and the Witch-King breaking his staff was ****ing weak . One of the worst aspects of the film trilogy.

It happened in the book, though.

 

[Ponyboy]

No it did not happen in the book(s).

 

[Timstuff]

I went back and checked the book, and it appears I was mistaken. The Witch King did not break Gandalf's staff in the book.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Spoiler

 

[JewishHobbit]

Oh, and the Witch-King breaking his staff was ****ing weak . One of the worst aspects of the film trilogy.

How is it that I don't remember this happening in the movie? I don't recall Witchking ever getting ahold of the staff?!

 

[Whiskey Tango]

How is it that I don't remember this happening in the movie? I don't recall Witchking ever getting ahold of the staff?!

It's in the Extended Edition.

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[Armored Avenger]

I have never liked that scene and wish it had remained cut from the Extended Edition as well. Gandalf the Grey was able to hold his own against multiple Ringwraiths on Weathertop:
"I galloped to Weathertop like a gale, and I reached it before sundown on my second day from Bree — and they were there before me. They drew away from me, for they felt the coming of my anger and they dared not face it while the Sun was in the sky. But they closed round at night, and I was besieged on the hill-top, in the old ring of Amon Sûl. I was hard put to it indeed: such light and flame cannot have been seen on Weathertop since the war-beacons of old."

In the books Gandalf is waiting for the Witch King to enter the city, whereas the films have him appear panicked and afraid when they confront each other. The scene weakened Gandalf too much for my liking, especially considering in The Two Towers Gandalf heavily implies that he is now the most powerful being on Middle-Earth, save for Sauron himself, as he says he is:
"more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord".

 

[superkong 500]

I never understood how aragorn could hold his own against the nazgul(even the witch king) at weathertop yet the witch king "defeated" Gandalf during the siege of minas tirith. I didn't read the books so I though to myself "Maybe sauron gave the witch king some of his own power to make him stronger than Gandalf before sending him to invade minas tirith" Of course that's my way of making sense out of it.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I was watching parts of Fellowship today and Gandalf does pretty much look the same.

I'm doing a Tolkien presentation for my Senior Research Project. After I talk about his life, I'm showing the Moria "All you have to decide is what to do at the time that is given to you" scene between Gandalf and Frodo.

 

[The_Vision]

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I f***ing love Howard Shore, the music was one of the best things about LOTR.

 

[Bat-Mite]

I f***ing love Howard Shore, the music was one of the best things about LOTR.

The version of the Gondor theme that played when the beacons were lit, combined with the imagery, took my breath away when I saw it in the theater.

 

[Kane52630]

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This track always get me, it's so brilliant.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Shore just pushed himself with this score. We've heard his scores on other films, but this is on another level. It's kind of burst compared to his others. Thanks to the scope.

Jackson's images combined with Shore's score make them the most powerful things I have ever seen on film.

From each film there has to be at least ten things that either sends massive chills or gets me teary eyed. For God sakes I watched the Moria scene out of context and when Gandalf faced the Balrog, I got teary eyed. That is an incredible moment. McKellen's delivery with that imagery of him facing down the Balrog.

 

[Marx]

I love the picture of Ian with the glasses on!

 

[Brother Jack]

I f***ing love Howard Shore, the music was one of the best things about LOTR.

I would actually go as far as to say the music is the best thing about Jackson's trilogy. That's not to discredit the rest of it because it is a resounding success, but there are certainly things that can be nitpicked and even disagreed with (just like the Witch King vs. Gandalf scene). That is not the case with the music; it is basically without fault.

 

[Drizzle]

If we're talking favorite pieces from the score, I've always been in love with this one:

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Epic finale for the Rohan theme.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

My favorite bit of the whole trilogy is in Fellowship, right after they leave Rivendell. In the middle of the travelling montage the fellowship theme swells as they all walk single file towards the right of the camera past that big rock....oh man. Anybody got a gif of that part? I love it so so much.

edit: GRAHR! How is that clip not on Youtube? Uncool, Mr. Internet.

 

[Drizzle]

edit: GRAHR! How is that clip not on Youtube? Uncool, Mr. Internet.

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[Whiskey Tango]

lol there it is. Forgive me, Mr. Internet!