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[The Incredible Hulk]

did you try hitting up the extremists over at SaveSuperman.com? They might be down for that.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

did you try hitting up the extremists over at SaveSuperman.com? They might be down for that.

Only one person from there has contacted me about it so far (via myspace), but I'll updae them

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Here is my question how can Routh still be Superman for this revamp and Welling couldn't even be considered for Superman in JL and Superman because it would confuse the fans? IMO that sounds like a load of BS. Now as much as I loved Routh in SR I do however think that Welling should be given the same fair chance to be Superman (if he wants the role) and from the sounds of it he did want the role for JL and the WB just shot him down like he was nothing and that IMO is wrong.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

Yes, ultimate supes, it does seem like b.s. , the wb clearly is not worried with confusing people.

Until there is official confirmation Routh will be returning, I say we keep campaigning. Send more letters and emails people, it isn't over yet. Let warners know how big of a mistke they are making!

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I wouldnt let what Paul Levitz says deter you. He really doesnt have much say in who's cast in the films since he doesnt work for WB Studios, he merely "advises" from the comics side of things. I think Routh is as "in the running" as everyone else at this point since they havent made any final decisions about directors and or writers at this point so casting is pretty far off.

 

[RakuMon]

What Hulk said.

(I can also say that, behind the scenes, Levitz and co. weren't all that happy with Superman Returns', um, returns, but they ultimately don't really have that much say in the matter. For instance, the whole "you can't have the same heroes in multiple mediums" decree is more WB studios than it is DC.)

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

But as Showtime has also said since the WB/DC summit it seems like they are all on the same page and will not make a move to much without the others consent. Therefor Levitz might be correct in what he says that Routh is still going to be Superman (which IMO is not a bad thing) because as Showtime also said it is kind of funny how the GL casting and Superman casting is coming out at the same time. I just think that is wrong that when Welling want the role for JL they turn him down for a lame excuses. Now if Routh or Welling are not Superman for this next film I will not be upset as long as they pick the right actor I just think it will be wrong however for Routh to be Superman in a revamp and then they say Welling can't be Superman in JL because it will confuse fans but that is once again only if Welling wanted the role.

 

[Migu-EL]

When was Routh brought up for the revamp, what did I miss?

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

Check out the front page

 

[Brainiac 8]

Honestly, I think the main problem with Routh in the last movie was that he was stuck with a bad script and directing.

If they can write a proper Superman movie and get a competent directer in there, Routh might do ok. All they need to do is recast everyone else except Spacey (Who I thought did a good job).

 

[Migu-EL]

Check out the front page

Gotcha, thanks.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

it's funny how the guy from LR and may others have taken that article to mean something concrete. Upon reading it through again, all Lexitz is really saying is Routh has been by to talk about what DC is doing with Superman. Doesnt really say anything either way about him being out or being in the mix (those are the authors comments). Considering he was the last guy to wear the pleather fruit roll-up, err cape, you would think at some point those discussions would take place.

As I said earlier, Levitz is going to be pretty far down the food chain in terms of casting decisions made by WB and whatever director they eventually hire. So his opinion really means little either way.

 

[SamuraiSon6]

the way i read that article it just said they called him in to talk about it, which honestly could mean....."listen........you're not what were going for....."

 

[Migu-EL]

Did Routh sign a multi-movie deal?

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Did Routh sign a multi-movie deal?

Well yes and no. All of the main cast signed a 3 picture deal, only after the first movie the studio has "options" to use them in up to 2 sequels. So although they "signed" for 3 movies, WB doesnt have to use them for anything but #1 and they dont have to pay them a dime after that. That's pretty much become the standard contract in Superhero movies these days.

 

[Migu-EL]

Well yes and no. All of the main cast signed a 3 picture deal, only after the first movie the studio has "options" to use them in up to 2 sequels. So although they "signed" for 3 movies, WB doesnt have to use them for anything but #1 and they dont have to pay them a dime after that. That's pretty much become the standard contract in Superhero movies these days.

So the discussions that were going on with Routh could very well be about not picking up the option to include him on the next film.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

it's funny how the guy from LR and may others have taken that article to mean something concrete. Upon reading it through again, all Lexitz is really saying is Routh has been by to talk about what DC is doing with Superman. Doesnt really say anything either way about him being out or being in the mix (those are the authors comments). Considering he was the last guy to wear the pleather fruit roll-up, err cape, you would think at some point those discussions would take place.

As I said earlier, Levitz is going to be pretty far down the food chain in terms of casting decisions made by WB and whatever director they eventually hire. So his opinion really means little either way.

the way i read that article it just said they called him in to talk about it, which honestly could mean....."listen........you're not what were going for....."

So the discussions that were going on with Routh could very well be about not picking up the option to include him on the next film.

See that is one way you can look at it but the way Levitz makes it seem is that Brandon is still their (WB) Superman. Remember guys all they said they will do is reintroduce Superman and we as fanboys took that as meaning they will reboot Superman but that could mean they would do something like the Hulk where you have a Superman who is already established which Routh could fit the bill. I agree as an origin movie this would maybe be a bad move but as a stand alone series like Hulk or Spider-Man or TDK it can work.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

See that is one way you can look at it but the way Levitz makes it seem is that Brandon is still their (WB) Superman.

Not sure how you get that? Even the biased LR guy would only say "in the mix." Levitz said nothing more than Routh "came by." Considering he could possibly be obligated to do another Supes film if WB wanted him to, it makes sense that he or his agent would check in from time to time to see what the status of the project was. I get the feeling that Routh wants to do another Superman much more than many at WB want him to, at this point.

Remember guys all they said they will do is reintroduce Superman and we as fanboys took that as meaning they will reboot Superman but that could mean they would do something like the Hulk where you have a Superman who is already established which Routh could fit the bill. I agree as an origin movie this would maybe be a bad move but as a stand alone series like Hulk or Spider-Man or TDK it can work.

Routh doesnt fit the bill because you can't "re-establish" with the same cast. Hulk is the perfect example of that. They had Bana for 2 more movies if they wanted him but chose to go away from it because the minute people saw him, it would become Ang Lee's Hulk 2, regardless of what plot elements were changed. And Alan Horn himself used the word "restart."

 

[Migu-EL]

True..you can't restart the Superman movie franchise with the same actor playing the main Character. What would be the point? I would think that they would want to distance themselves from SR as far as possible.

 

[Mandrill]

One thing to consider although I didn't care much for BR he didn't do too bad a job(though for my money he just copied Reeve's performance) and he is kinda contracted to the role so untill WB can decide for sure they will keep him in the mix to continue as Superman.

 

[LL2K2]

Latino Review biased? Not hardly. After all, they were the media outlet who first announced that Routh was Superman and Heath Ledger was the Joker in TDK.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

So the discussions that were going on with Routh could very well be about not picking up the option to include him on the next film.

That's one possibility, there's a million reasons an actor could be at a studio talking with people.

Latino Review biased? Not hardly. After all, they were the media outlet who first announced that Routh was Superman and Heath Ledger was the Joker in TDK.

So because they get the occasional news scoop they cant be biased? Go back and read the love-fest certain of the writers had for all things Singer during that production. But hey If you'd like to read things into small comments, by all means have at it.

 

[BizarroAids]

I try to come to this forum as much as possible, but I've never stumbled upon this thread, nor have I seen anyone in here who wouldn't like Tom as Supes.


I, BizarroAids, have been a fan of Tom since the pilot. At that point, he was Superboy to me, but now that he's grown and matured the character of Clark, I can honestly say to me he is SUPERMAN.

Much like the rest of you, every time I see him, every time he speaks, I see a new Superman. He's a new generations Superman. I can't see anyone else that could pull this off as well as Tom could.

I support the cause, and I'll GLADLY sign any petition.t:

 

[Mikelus]

Is so tiring how some people keep jumping to conclusions just because the author of an article says "in the mix". I guess if WB talks to Singer is because he's "in the mix" too. Who knows what TPTB told BR, till we get a serious confirmation by the people involved, is better to be patient and wait.

If WB has any common sense left, the reboot should be with a new cast. If they change their minds and go for a sequel, then have the same cast, as simple as that. A reboot with the same actor is just idiotic, imagine TIH with Bana (nightmare!), thank goodness we got Norton. So, here we go again with the Superman rollercoaster of rumors and BS, till WB announces its plan for the franchise, patience.

 

[Gmanofsteel]

lana, i thought we agreed that you'd say out of this thread . . . .