Official Young Avengers Discussion Thread

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree. The current Vision makes me miss the old Vision and Cassie has been bugging me in Mighty Avengers. But they're still technically members of both teams.

 

[spark627]

I wish we were getting YA Volume 2 instead of a YA/Avengers crossover event. Oh well, take what I can. The good news is after this, YA is out of Heinberg's control.

 

[CaptainCanada]

Gage or Wells would have been perfect for the book.

Wells, maybe; Gage's writing is too procedural for a title that banked a lot on snappy dialogue.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

If he wrote it like he does A:TI, I think it'd be decent

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Preview of Siege: Young Avengers

 

[BrianWilly]

Tommy has a personality...in addition to something to do? IS SHOCKED.

Not shocking: no YA series news after all this time.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Did anybody else just kind of automatically slip into Hank Venture's voice when reading Hulkling's dialogue on the page I posted? I mean, "pooled a puddle in my pants"? He's totally channeling the same dead crazy people Hank does.

 

[CaptainCanada]

Not shocking: no YA series news after all this time.

Heinberg's maxiseries is supposed to start this summer, at least.

 

[Dread]

Tommy has a personality...in addition to something to do? IS SHOCKED.

Not shocking: no YA series news after all this time.

Silly Billy...you have to remember, to most writers, simply being homosexual IS a personality. Y'know, because it is so rare and new and distinct, right? Isn't it still 1991?

Oh, it isn't?

Well...yes, I do agree on liking how Tommy was written in the preview.

Did anybody else just kind of automatically slip into Hank Venture's voice when reading Hulkling's dialogue on the page I posted? I mean, "pooled a puddle in my pants"? He's totally channeling the same dead crazy people Hank does.

I didn't notice.

Heinberg's maxiseries is supposed to start this summer, at least.

I'll believe it when I see it on a shelf. Marvel has been holding this franchise on hold for Heinberg for about five years and reaped no positive returns.

Still, I do like how the mini seems to be focusing on the members who aren't Stature and Vision, who are covered in MIGHTY AVENGERS and THUNDERBOLTS right now, which is wise.

 

[NightBeetle]

 

[BrianWilly]

Silly Billy...you have to remember, to most writers, simply being homosexual IS a personality. Y'know, because it is so rare and new and distinct, right? Isn't it still 1991?

Oh, it isn't?

Well...yes, I do agree on liking how Tommy was written in the preview.

Tommy is Speed.

 

[Dread]

Tommy is Speed.

Right. My error. Tommy is Speed. Teddy is Hulkling and I think Billy is Wiccan. It does get hard to remember their names when they are only in about one story a year, and when they are in said story, they barely do anything of relevance. I mean DARK REIGN: YOUNG AVENGERS was 5 issues long and the Young Avengers themselves barely did anything but show up for obligatory fight scenes.

Still, Tommy did something there. He apparently met "Coat Of Arms" in juvie and wanted her to join his team. She declined.

I did like Wiccan's apparent fascination with Asgardian mythology. It has been a while since he did anything character related, too.

I sincerely believe Marvel's sitting on this franchise has killed it in the cradle. I don't think a Heinberg mini at this stage will sell well, not when random YA mini's are lucky to sell in the Top 80. Through sheer neglect, Marvel turned what once was a healthy B-list franchise into something that spirals down the same drain as Ghost Rider and Moon Knight, which at least both have the benefit of having once had a heyday. The YA hardly had a heyday; they had a few hey-moments.

 

[CaptainCanada]

I'll believe it when I see it on a shelf. Marvel has been holding this franchise on hold for Heinberg for about five years and reaped no positive returns.

They've never given a name or release date prior to now.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I've been seeing the title "The Children's Crusade" for months now.

 

[Dread]

They've never given a name or release date prior to now.

Marvel once solicited an issue of X-MEN EVOLUTION #10 for October 2002. It had a cover image and everything. Never saw print.

For at least two writer runs on ULTIMATE X-MEN, Brian K. Vaughan and Robert Kirkman, Marvel and WIZARD issued breathless articles that Bryan Singer (and his team of writers) would write 12 issues of the title. Has yet to happen.

Ask anyone at Marvel about Kevin Smith's DAREDEVIL: TARGET #2, and at best you'll get a "you're a nerd with a long memory" chuckle.

So, forgive me for not trusting promises on this end. Marvel has promised an Allen Heinberg "season 2" of Young Avengers since roughly 2005-2006, and produced not one page of anything even proof-read by Heinberg. Marvel should have, at lasted, issued an ongoing series with a regular writer and artist (which could have been Jim Cheung at times) by early 2007. Now it may be way too late, and it is a shame. The characters had potential.

I'll believe it when I see it on a shelf, and I pay $4 for it.

 

[CaptainCanada]

I've been seeing the title "The Children's Crusade" for months now.

No, I mean that, prior to Avengers: The Children's Crusade, none of the discussions of when the characters would return had ever given a name or release date. It was always just "we hope he'll be able to return X". So I expect this to be released.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Wouldn't surprise me if they're getting the series done before even talking about it. I mean, what has Cheung been doing all this time save the occasional issue here or there?

And I for one, cannot wait to read it.

I do think after this is over if Heinberg can't commit to something that they should hand the reins off to someone. McKeever?

 

[Specter313]

Only think I can think of Cheung doing is covers to stuff like Secret Warriors, and like you said, and special issue here and there. Just seemed like busy work so they don't tie him down to anything in particular until he could come back to YA.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

anybody seen the announcements about the Young Allies? I have a feeling we're gonna be getting a Young Avengers/Young Allies crossover at somepoint down this Heroic Age line. seems like they would mesh fairly well.

slightly aside, I like the line-up so far of the Young Allies, but the only downside to me is that ****ing Sean McKeever is writing the damn thing. After his run on Teen Titans, I have serious reservations about his ability to write a teen ensemble book.

 

[Havok83]

does anyone really still care about YA as a series? Marvel completley dropped the ball on this. They had alot of momentum a few years back but it seemed to have fizzled down. I still like the characters but stopped waiting for an ongoing a long time ago. At this point, Id rather see them integrated into other titles kinda like they did with Stature and Vision.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I haven't read any of the Mighty or Initiative stuff with Vision and Stature. I'm still not a fan of how they folded them into the rest of the universe. They were a perfectly AWESOME team on the borderline outside of the heroes. They were stand-alone, but if they needed help, there was no way the Avengers would say no. I would've rather seen the entire team run from registration.

so that being said, I'm still hoping for another Heindberg/Cheung series. with the whole team together. I have the collected hardback of the first volume, and would like something to rival my Vaughn Runaways hardback collection. I think the team has the potential to do so.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'd like another series featuring the whole team, but Heinberg and Cheung are in no way necessary for that, as far as I'm concerned. I understand showing an artist some latitude to work out their schedule, but it's been 2 or 3 years now since the last Young Avengers series. Time to move on and give the series to someone who'll prioritize it like it actually matters.

 

[NightBeetle]

http://***********/allanheinberg/status/12077716700

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

I think this thing is like...halfway done and it'll get announced when it's all done so it can ship biweekly.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I hope that's the last of whatever Heinberg had planned for the Young Avengers so someone else can take over on an ongoing after it's done.