ernesth100
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Yeah, but it's waaaay late into the game.General Ross has shown up in a few movies. Abomination is going to be in She Hulk.
Yeah, but it's waaaay late into the game.General Ross has shown up in a few movies. Abomination is going to be in She Hulk.
I think the only downfall for MCUs Hulk is not using any of his supporting cast in any of the films.
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If you make it happen Marvel I'll actually say WandaVision was good.
You're of course welcome to your opinion, but this is unquestionably more impressive than anything '08 Hulk ever did:
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Norton Hulk struggled to lift a Humvee and was losing to Abom, who is basically an inferior version of himself. I fail to see how he would defeat Thanos.
Watching Hulk get wrecked by Thanos in the first 5 minutes of Infinity War was a stroke of genius.
The entire audience knows Hulk as a nearly unstoppable force and Thanos drops him in less than 3 minutes. You sacrifice Hulk to an extent to make Thanos a terrifying villain. It worked.
Then where do you go from there? A Professor Hulk who went through Jungian Individuation. Not a bad evolution for a character who became one note over the course of 5 or 6 films.
I will say while I love the running "the sun's going down" joke in Thor Ragnarok, I really disliked the Hulk toddler behavior in his room. It was a bit cringey.
Could you elaborate more on Whedon's worst creative decisions?"Sun's getting real low" in Ragnarok and Deadpool 2 and the Cap PSA's & America's Ass both retroactively salvaged two of Whedon's worst creative decisions in Avengers.
I'm glad the Russos spared us one armed & much smaller Smart Hulk taking on Thanos and his copter blade. Howard the Duck may have stood a better chance.
I grew up with petulant toddler Hulk, and I would have preferred he stuck around for more than one film. I'm hoping Bruce has another transformation in him (Joe Fixit?). The She Hulk series could give Feige and company an excuse to change things up again.
Could you elaborate more on Whedon's worst creative decisions?
I hate to reply to older posts, but the MCU still kept Hulk's ability to get stronger as he got angrier. It just wasn't as obvious as it was in TIH or Ang Lee's Hulk (where it was really obvious as he just kept growing bigger). It was shown in the Helicarrier fight with Thor in the first Avengers. He could have ended up wrecking the whole ship if he wasn't distracted by the jet. It was definitely there when he went on the rampage in Africa in AOU. He had a building dropped on him and he was still ready to keep going until Iron Man sucker punched him. Also on that note, he can jump higher when he reaches a certain power level from his anger, which was how he was able to reach the Quinjet that Ultron was flying to toss him out of it like a ragdoll. It was also shown in the arena battle vs. Thor in Ragnarok. After Thor got the best of him, Hulk stopped playing around and really did some damage by pounding Thor into the ground.The thing is both Norton and Lee’s hulk had the one thing that made him hulk. The madder he got the stronger he got. That’s his power, but the MCU just completely did away with that. You see it in Norton’s version when he overcomes the sound machine and again at the end battling abomination. You see it with Lee’s hulk when he fights against the dogs and his battle against the army before releasing it all on his dad at the end! You even here Nolte say it’s not stopping take it back!
That one thing is greater than anything we saw in any avengers Movie and it’s the key to him being who he is. Without it he is just Ruffalo covered in green cgi or a hairless green gorilla walking on his knuckles.
So yeah, give me Norton anyday over the debacle the Russo’s put on screen!
Ruffalo hulk isn't scary intimidating like norton. the 2008 factory transformation scene is chilling.
I've never seen this pilot.But the 2008 transformation has nothing on the Incredible Hulk pilot first transformation which is not only the most chilling of all but the most dramatic and memorable with the thunder and lightning and the eerie chanting sound of hundreds of voices at once. The whole pilot is like a horror movie.
I hate to reply to older posts, but the MCU still kept Hulk's ability to get stronger as he got angrier. It just wasn't as obvious as it was in TIH or Ang Lee's Hulk (where it was really obvious as he just kept growing bigger). It was shown in the Helicarrier fight with Thor in the first Avengers. He could have ended up wrecking the whole ship if he wasn't distracted by the jet. It was definitely there when he went on the rampage in Africa in AOU. He had a building dropped on him and he was still ready to keep going until Iron Man sucker punched him. Also on that note, he can jump higher when he reaches a certain power level from his anger, which was how he was able to reach the Quinjet that Ultron was flying to toss him out of it like a ragdoll. It was also shown in the arena battle vs. Thor in Ragnarok. After Thor got the best of him, Hulk stopped playing around and really did some damage by pounding Thor into the ground.
You're pinning too much of the blame on Ruffalo. It wasn't his decision as much as it was Taika Waititi, the Russos, and Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely to take the character in that direction.The point is if he is getting angrier then he actually gets stronger . It’s like a battery recharge , it just keeps on going. Being sucker punched would have just added to it. No way stark walks out of there if we are talking about hulk’s strength and durability increasing with his rage.
Ruffalo took a serious character and played him for laughs. Made him unwatchable. The thing we see in endgame is not the hulk and really doesn’t even seem in line with any professor hulk or merged hulk that I’ve ever read about or seen. He’s just Ruffalo in green cgi, being Ruffalo . Give me an actor that respects the character .