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Apocalypse Oscar Isaac IS Apocalypse - Part 2

Riiiighht like when he kills other mutants and take over this bodies and powers? Oh like when he wanted to have Quicksilver executed? Come on now.

He doesn't take power from killed mutants, where did you got that BS?
He merged with some mutants (mutants being alive, not killed by him), by trasferring his consciousness.
I'm here now, come on.

He doesn't kill Pietro, but agree in second half of movie he behavior a little like present arab terrorist. Orders to kidnapped man (Xavier) say some words to the whole world, next wants someone to cut throat for slain (Quicksilver).
Just realized he upgraded Xavier for a moment, when Charles could contact with everybody at Earth without Cerebro.
 
Does anyone else thinks after watching the movie that oscar isaac would make a really good frankensteins monster?
 
I liked the look of the old as balls Apocalypse in the prologue..
 
I know they cannot mention the Celestials. But I still think the armor was 100% alien, and I have a clue:

The Telekinetic Horseman desperately tried to save the armor and make Apocalypse wear it, no matter what. Since Apocalypse has the power of molecular manipolation, he could have created a new armor without problems (see Angel and the "transformation" of his wings) but NO, the Horseman cared for that specific armor, until her last moments of life.

My only gripe is the body transferring technology... because when Apocalypse turned Cairo into his "reign", where did that technology pop up then???
 
I'm more curious why he even needed them in the first place. Isn't his shtick that he's all-powerful and practically has all the powers most mutants have?

Let's say he did need his Horsemen: Storm, Psylocke, and Angel, were incredibly poor choices from a combative standpoint given how he could transport anywhere in the world and choose far more skilled and gifted mutants.

The film makes it pretty clear that he is not all powerful.

If he didn't feel like he needed the Horsemen, he wouldn't have them.

Magneto, especially. Apocalypse amplifies other mutants' powers, and had a few of his own, but he's never actually shown to be all powerful on his own. He was at his strongest when "allied" with other mutants.
 
I enjoyed Oscar's performance as Apocalypse. Yes, Apocalypse isn't relatable and is a one note villain but I like how they played off with the false god aspect of the character and how he realized that there's someone else far more powerful than him.
 
I feel like the concept of him always having his horsemen was basically to use them as examples of the strongest, those would be his elite guard for the new world he was creating. He doesnt want to end life, but start it over with more pure blooded beings.
 
The film really should have showed how Apocalypse was manipulating everyone's emotions. That would make it easier to welcome Magneto and Storm back in to the fold. Apocalypse appeared to have the powers of "Empath" (a mutant from the New Mutant days) - here's his WIKI power definition: Empath possesses the psionic ability to sense and manipulate the emotions of others. He can affect large groups of individuals at a time and can exert varying levels of empathic control over them, ranging from subtle manipulations that others are generally unaware of, to a complete negation of emotion that reduces them to a zombie-like state in which he can command them with little effort. His power operates by means of Empath's own brainwaves overriding the parts of the brain that govern emotion in others
 
I know they didn't want to use "mind control" as an explanation, but they should have if they wanted the Horsemen to all be redeemable characters. That is what it is in the comics, and they could make it more abstract, like he taps into their emotions and consumes them with rage or anger. The only problem is then how do you get them out of their funks in a narratively satisfying way?

But Mystique just basically yelling at Magneto, "Hey remember some good scenes from X-Men: First Class!" is not enough to really convincingly explain a pivot... or fully redeem him. While it was great he fought with the X-Men and rebuilt the school, he still tried to kill most of the world. And as far as we know, he probably killed thousands of people. It is hard to just let him walk away from that.
 
I know they didn't want to use "mind control" as an explanation, but they should have if they wanted the Horsemen to all be redeemable characters. That is what it is in the comics, and they could make it more abstract, like he taps into their emotions and consumes them with rage or anger. The only problem is then how do you get them out of their funks in a narratively satisfying way?

But Mystique just basically yelling at Magneto, "Hey remember some good scenes from X-Men: First Class!" is not enough to really convincingly explain a pivot... or fully redeem him. While it was great he fought with the X-Men and rebuilt the school, he still tried to kill most of the world. And as far as we know, he probably killed thousands of people. It is hard to just let him walk away from that.

I think it's safe to say that Magneto did kill thousands of people.
 
Seeing it a third time, I really appreciate how they realized the force field.
 
I thought Isaac did well, but overall, I was kind of disappointed with Apoc. Not quite sure what it was, but I do feel like he wasn't very imposing for the most part. I would have liked to have seen him go hand to hand with some of the X-men; just bat them around like it was nothing. And it's minor, but he was too short. They should have added a few inches to him to make him more physically imposing. he was shorter than half of his horsemen, lol.

I agree he wasn't imposing or scary...animated Apoc used to frighten the hell out of me as a kid. This guy was just creepy, but not in a serious enough way.
 
I was impressed with Apocalypse in the movie. Oscar Isaac portrayed him well, and he came across as very eerie and foreboding. I was impressed with how they showcased a lot of his abilities, and I liked the biblical and mythical language in his dialogue.
 
Still wonder how in a movie with budget like this, they couldn't make him bigger, at least half head taller than Magneto.
He got respect, not only because of powers, but also of being bigger than average man.

Singer used stupid argument with wrestlers, Jackman, Sy and Schreiber aren't wrestlers, all good actors. If you use short actor, then use computer effects, not only shoes.
 
Its weird bc the initial pics of Apocalypse looked terrible but then it got updated and it looked fine. I went to the movies and he looked silly on the big screen. I was not a fan of the costume and overall design
 
Design was created as merge of everything we already saw:


I like design, just wanted him to be bigger.
 
I don't think he looked silly
I woulda went with a more simplistic approach if that was me.
Still very pharoah like just more simplistic.
Its like his body was merged with Celestial tech
 
The only issue I had was the fairly monochrome look of the suit. Add some gold into it and emphasize the pharaoh like look.
 
yeah again im happy with it
but the approach they took with apocalypse
dude shoulda been decked in gold lookin like a pharoah
but then peopled would just say he look like this:

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or this
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Sure some scenes came off ...I dunno...oddly, though I dunno if that's the word to describe a bit of his performance in that area. Keeping in mind that this is a god like mutant who spent thousands upon thousands of years in the dark until the 1980s, he reawakened. So of course all his surroundings and how he reacts to them would be awkward...but I really enjoyed how Isaac portrayed the character. Really enjoyed the final battle with Jean/Phoenix...heh...that image just won't get out of my head.
 

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