Paramount Dumps Tom Cruise

[Majik1387]

You say you dislike anyone who pushes anything on others...yet here you are "Its the dumbest crap ever invented". Tom didn't push it, it became public, he got asked about it in interviews and he responded.

I'm not pushing anything, it's an opinion. This is the first and most probably the last time I'll mentioned of it on the boards because it is the dumbest crap ever invented. Scientology became public by Tom Cruise.

He doesn't? Have you seen The Passion or any of his PR work during that time? The fact is, its ok to push something if 85 % of the population agree with it.

You can avoid watching a movie easier than you can avoid a news story.

If everyone dislikes it so much, then quit picking up copies of People Magazine and buying into it. The fact is, Cruise is just a bit of strange, eccentric guy and the media is turning it into a fiasco to sell magazines and the public is eating right out of their hands.

I don't read or buy People but I do watch the E! Channel sometimes and even though it's entertainment news, I'm sick of the Tom Cruise/Scientology thing already. Same with Mel's drunken rant. Give me movie and tv show news.

 

[Timstuff]

My thoughts on Tom Cruise getting dumped by Paramount:

YAY! Return of the Scientology South Park episode!

 

[The_Raven]

Problem?

No, I'm good.


How are you?

 

[Majik1387]

No, I'm good.


How are you?

Fine. Just hoping this thread doesn't turn into a Gibson/Cruise or Scientology/Christianity war-zone.

 

[matrix_ghost]

Seriously, I hear that everywhere.
Everybody says he's such a nice dude.

Just a little weird.

More like , i think he's one of those people who live for the moment. You know , enjoying life while you can.
That's how i view Tom Cruise really. It's also that he generally enjoys things , due to his scientolgy beliefs. Or more that he himself believes that thru scientology he has won over numerous obstacles.
I think it's the same with religion also. I mean some people might view the Hare Krishna people are weirdo's , but to them such things are obvlivious. They fully immerse themselves into their religion and seem to feel good , happy and fulfilled by it.
So yeah , the same applies to the cruiser and his scientology beliefs.

And i think that people have some problems with that. TAke the whole couchjumping scene. GEnerally fits into the "i'm in love moment and i wanna scream it out and tell it to the world". But yeah , society is such a way that if you're doing that they look like youre some kind of weirdo. Heck even you're girlfirned/boyfriend might look at you and go "Okay ...a little too much going on here. Cool down".

I'm not defending his stuff that he said about Brooke SHields , cause i do feel that he said things the wrong way. There is such a thing as respect for you're fellow man and if a person can have benefit thru prescription drugs after years of therapy didn't work , then so be it. I agree with Tom that you shoudln't go on and immediatly prescribe to drugs . But just cause someone has had success with Scientology , doesn't mean everyone can have succcess with that too.
What the media did was twist and turn everything around and mess with Cruise's opinion. In the end making him look like an ass.




Anyways , going back to the original topic which was the whole debacle .
IMDB report this today :
http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2006-08-24/

According to sources close to Viacom chairman Sumner Redstone, who owns Paramount, the studio estimated that Cruise's uncensored off-screen antics were thought to have cost the studio $150 million in lost box office receipts for Mission: Impossible III. Top Hollywood producer Jerry Bruckheimer, who has made several movies with Cruise including Top Gun and Days Of Thunder, has come to the star's defense. He says, "He's as viable an actor as he always was. He's a worldwide star and a lot of people want to work with him, including me."

150 million in loss. Well that is a rather big number.
Still with people like Bruckheimer already lining up , i still say Paramount is the loser here.

 

[The_Raven]

Fine. Just hoping this thread doesn't turn into a Gibson/Cruise or Scientology/Christianity war-zone.

You'll get nothing like that from me, friend. Cruise/Gibson give me good movies; I could care less how wacko they get.

 

[New Shh! user.]

what the hell has cruise done wrong? He jumped on a couch, and was brave and willing enough to display his opinion on a certain matter. Trust the American public to judge a man and his beliefs. Trust the American public to get prissy over a man who jumped up and down on a couch. My god who cares?!!!

Fact is, his intentions in themovie business are admirable. He makes high budget(sometimes high concept too) action movies which rake in half a billion dollars a piece, and he also is sensitive to lower budget, plot/character driven pieces. He is intellgient in this respect and imo he's good for Hollywood. It's the studion bosses who *** everything up.

 

[Red Mask]

For me, the last good Cruise film was 'Born on the Fourth of July'. It was that long ago.

 

[That-Guy]

The odd thing about Tom Cruise is that before the Oprah incident and the rants about prescription drugs and Brooke Shields, I think he had one of the best public personas of any actor out there. Even when the split between him and Nicole Kidman occurred, he didn't do anything that made people turn on him (and that can happen very easily when a Hollywood couple splits up... just take a look at the field day the tabloids have had over the whole Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie/Jennifer Aniston thing). And up until last year, Cruise always appeared calm, cool, collected and apparently a genuinely sincere guy in interviews and appearances. Now, people are making him out to be a joke.

However, I do feel that some of these recent antics have been blown out of proportion... the whole "placenta" incident is a good example of this (it was a joke... albeit a strange one... but the media made it out like he was being serious). He's done things like sign autographs for hours for fans. And as far as the tabloids saying things like "Katie is miserable" and "why haven't we seen the baby?" ... people have to realize that these are mere speculations dreamed up by people whose job is to dream up speculations about celebrities so that they sell more magazines. Hell, if we could take the tabloids as fact, then the world would be have ended in 2000 as the result of an alien invasion of bat boys.

 

[That-Guy]

Another thing I'd like to mention here... Mission Impossible 3 didn't do as well as the first two, that's true... but I don't think that was all Cruise's antics that did that.

M:I 2 was a huge hit, but it was received very poorly by a lot of people (myself included) for being heavy on action and very, VERY light on story. While the first film might have been the reverse of this and could have used a few more action sequences to spice things up, it was undoubtedly the better film because it didn't feel like a poorly conceived James Bond rip-off, which is all M:I 2 was. When you take that into consideration and also add the fact that the previews for M:I 3 were very obscure... they explained very little of the story, featured no dialogue from the main character, and instead just featured some action sequences (much like the previews for M:I 2) audiences most likely thought to themselves, "Great... more of the same crap." I know I didn't rush to see the film for this reason. Had M:I 2 been a good movie, I probably would have, and I think so would a lot of other people.

 

[Hunter Rider]

A lot on that list were some the directors best films

 

[Chris Wallace]

Even in films IMO he comes off as an *******. To me, his best roles are when he's playing cocky & arrogant. Like in Jerry Maguire.

Or Collateral, Interview With The Vampire, Cocktail-he plays a lot of cocky people.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I heard about this on Kieth Olberman, and I must say I don't understand it at all. Tom Cruise has always and will continue to be a terrific actor, and a smart movie producer.

 

[Ronny Shade]

put this in the other thread too

I don't understand it at all. Tom Cruise has always and will continue to be a terrific actor, and a smart movie producer.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Another thing I'd like to mention here... Mission Impossible 3 didn't do as well as the first two, that's true... but I don't think that was all Cruise's antics that did that.

M:I 2 was a huge hit, but it was received very poorly by a lot of people (myself included) for being heavy on action and very, VERY light on story. While the first film might have been the reverse of this and could have used a few more action sequences to spice things up, it was undoubtedly the better film because it didn't feel like a poorly conceived James Bond rip-off, which is all M:I 2 was. When you take that into consideration and also add the fact that the previews for M:I 3 were very obscure... they explained very little of the story, featured no dialogue from the main character, and instead just featured some action sequences (much like the previews for M:I 2) audiences most likely thought to themselves, "Great... more of the same crap." I know I didn't rush to see the film for this reason. Had M:I 2 been a good movie, I probably would have, and I think so would a lot of other people.

Mission: Impossible 2 was a beautiful, beautiful movie. I fail to understand why I'm the only person who feels this way.

 

[Fenrir]

Mission: Impossible 2 was a beautiful, beautiful movie. I fail to understand why I'm the only person who feels this way.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I can watch that movie for hours

 

[Fenrir]

I can watch that movie for hours

x infinity

 

[Chris Wallace]

I really liked it too; the only reason I haven't watched it lately is b/c I only have it on VHS.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I don't have it at all and I'm ashamed of that. I think I'm going to buy the whole trilogy if it comes out together

 

[Chris Wallace]

It probably will; no studio marketing department can resist the 3-pack or boxed set.

 

[kane9321]

paramounts loss..ha ha

 

[Timstuff]

Tom Cruise says he's cured drug addics with Scientology. You know how? Because even though scientology doesn't chemically affect people, it feeds the same part of the brain that's addicted to drugs with a new addiction. Scientology becomes an addiction just like drugs. You go and pay your fee to your auditor, and get "high" on the instant gratification of being told your "thetan levels" are changing. It's just like a drug addict paying a dealer for their dope. It might not be dangerous from a chemical standpoint, but the addiction hasn't been cured, only modified. Instead of giving your life savings to the drug lords, your giving it to Tom Cruise's next million dollar SeaOrgy cruise.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Sounds like what Trey & Matt were saying.

 

[Ronny Shade]

It makes small difference to me what Tom Cruise does with his personal life I've seen his last 7 movies (Mission: Impossible III, War of the Worlds, Collateral, The Last Samurai, Minority Report, Vanilla Sky, Mission: Impossible II ) and they were all very good.
Therefore I say that Tom Cruise has been affecting my life in a positive way for the last 6 years