Phoenix vs Superman (In his strongest form)

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Harlekin said:
Well, I guess if we're taking Phoenix at her best she could do that.
Otherwise it wouldent be fair...
Superman at his best vs Phoenix at her best.

Beside she would separate every molecule in his body it would just be carbon, oxygen, hydrogen and nitrogen left of him...
Simply ereasing him from existance, what's left to the immortallity... Hmm
 
bulok said:
Wait so the Phoenix is possessed with omniscience as well? how would she know a red sun will affect SP?
The only omniscale-being is tOAuA, and the one that replaced him...
cough'Thanos'cough
 
bulok said:
Wait so the Phoenix is possessed with omniscience as well? how would she know a red sun will affect SP?
Phoenix is an elder of the Universe, plus the whole telepathy thing...
 
Telepathy I get, but so what about her being an "elder of the universe" (whatever that means, since I know she's not listed among the ranks of the Grandmaster and the Champion and them)? She's an elder of the wrong universe to know that red suns reduce Kryptonians to roughly human-level abilities. Plus, there's no guarantee that that would even work on Superman Prime. He had some weird gold coating when he appeared; that might protect him from his old weaknesses. He's also grown in power right in the present-day comics to the point that Kryptonite does virtually nothing against him already.

I'm not saying Superman Prime could beat Phoenix. My point is actually that it's a bad contest from the get-go because we simply don't know a lot about Superman Prime. He appeared for a handful of pages in the DC One Million mini-series. For all we know, he has no weaknesses, he's developed super-telepathy, and he's now a tenth-level adept at super-magic. All we know is that he came out of the sun powerful enough to awe the other heroes present; there's simply not enough information on him for us to quantify how powerful he really was or measure that against the Phoenix's level of power.
 
Hm. I don't know about SuperMAN prime, But SuperBOY Prime might be able to pull it off. That guy is crazier than her by a factor of like a million, anyway.

You know, Omega-level phoenix carriers aren't that tough to begin with. Quentin Quire went down like a little *****, remember?
 
Phoenix may be able to tear him apart molecule by molecule but. that would be if you think is the one that strikes first. tech all he has to do is hit her. once. all over
 
Didn't Superman Pirme fight a defeat Gods. I wonder why they never thought of tearing him apart molecule by molecule.;)
 
Kool-Aid said:
Didn't Superman Pirme fight a defeat Gods. I wonder why they never thought of tearing him apart molecule by molecule.;)

maybe they were not that smart
 
SuperKalEl said:
Phoenix may be able to tear him apart molecule by molecule but. that would be if you think is the one that strikes first. tech all he has to do is hit her. once. all over
Well she have a insainly strong barrier, which protect her regardless of her will, Don't think Supes could break through that.
 
Kool-Aid said:
Didn't Superman Pirme fight a defeat Gods. I wonder why they never thought of tearing him apart molecule by molecule.;)
Maybe it was waek god's like Hera and so...
 
SSJ4_Mikael said:
Well she have a insainly strong barrier, which protect her regardless of her will, Don't think Supes could break through that.

um yes yes he could or this woulndt even be a fight
 
Kool-Aid said:
Didn't Superman Pirme fight a defeat Gods. I wonder why they never thought of tearing him apart molecule by molecule.;)

Just because they know everything doesn't make them smart :P
 
but since supes visited the wall and knows then anwser to everything means he would know exactly what he would have to do to beat her
 
SuperKalEl said:
but since supes visited the wall and knows then anwser to everything means he would know exactly what he would have to do to beat her
It makes no sense to use a non continuity (elseworld) version of a character in a debate about who can beat whom...I can just as easily talk to you about how DareDevil can read minds and how Thor possesses the Venom suit if you want to use elseworlds.
 
this version of superman isnt elseworlds...he was a pre-crisis character, and still in continuity, just erased from everyones memories and history (well, not anymore I guess, cause Infinite Crisis made everyone remember)...he lived on Earth Prime...
 
Are Phoenix would have to do is rip Superman's molecule apart and there would be nothing left of him, but it would be a tough amazing fight to see.
 
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The Joker said:
this version of superman isnt elseworlds...he was a pre-crisis character, and still in continuity, just erased from everyones memories and history (well, not anymore I guess, cause Infinite Crisis made everyone remember)...he lived on Earth Prime...


I thought the only hero from Earth prime was Superboy Prime?????
 
roach said:
I thought the only hero from Earth prime was Superboy Prime?????
Superman Prime wasn't from Earth Prime. He was Superman from the world we know millons of years down the line.
 
This is silly.:confused: You guys are arguing about someone whose exact power levels are unknown.

Unless you have some issues showing Superman Prime doing some amazing sh1t, then this a pointless debate.
 
Brainiac 8 said:
Especially since she could just get rid of anyone in that movie with a thought, yet Wolverine could survive her attacks. LAME!!!:rolleyes: :down

Im just gonna say this. Nobody should be criticised for harping on marvel movies. I am so sick and tired of seeing crap rushed on screen in hopes of a DC and to beat a better movies timeline! Damn Marvel! Why in the @#$%^ did you hire that nerd Arad! When the bum interviews you can't make sense of what he is saying. But youd hire him over me, despite the fact I got two frikin masters!!! "Oh we want to move the movie to another date away from the movie soandso"

IF YOU DUMB JERKY BASTARDS WOULD INVEST IN BETTER FRICKING WRITERS AND TREAT MARVEL STORIES LIKE THE TRUE FRIKIN MASTERPEICES THAT THEY ARE THEN YOU JERKY BASTARDS SHOULDNT HAVE TO MOVE DOG!@#$!!!!


OH A FEW MINUTES FOR PHOENIX SINCE WE ONLY WANT TO PUSH CRAPPY MCDONALDS TOYS THAT DECOMPOSE INTO SULFURIC ACID IN WHICH RAINS DOWN ON PEOPLE RE****LING IN BRAIN DAMAGE! THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE PUNISHER A COP, SPIDEY ORGANIC WEBS, DAREDEVIL BEN AFFLECK, JUGGERNAUT A MUTANT, VENOM TOPHER GRACE, AND PEOPLE WILL LIKE IT, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE TOO BRAIN DAMAGED THROUGH THE RESULT OF ALL THE MARKET CRAP WE PUSH ON THEM!!! iM AVI ARAD AND WE HERE AT MARVEL PRIDE OURSELVES ON SUCKING!!!!! :mad:

SHUMACHER EAT YOUR HEART OUT!
 
pheonix was on level with any marvel god, so superman prime was no different. dc fanboys are always relying on prime but he nevr held the universse in his hands, did he? as to all that pissing and readin on the wall bs, he learnd all there is to know about the universe, the DC universse, not marvel.

thats a lame argument
 
TheCorpulent1 said:
Telepathy I get, but so what about her being an "elder of the universe" (whatever that means, since I know she's not listed among the ranks of the Grandmaster and the Champion and them)? She's an elder of the wrong universe to know that red suns reduce Kryptonians to roughly human-level abilities. Plus, there's no guarantee that that would even work on Superman Prime. He had some weird gold coating when he appeared; that might protect him from his old weaknesses. He's also grown in power right in the present-day comics to the point that Kryptonite does virtually nothing against him already.

I'm not saying Superman Prime could beat Phoenix. My point is actually that it's a bad contest from the get-go because we simply don't know a lot about Superman Prime. He appeared for a handful of pages in the DC One Million mini-series. For all we know, he has no weaknesses, he's developed super-telepathy, and he's now a tenth-level adept at super-magic. All we know is that he came out of the sun powerful enough to awe the other heroes present; there's simply not enough information on him for us to quantify how powerful he really was or measure that against the Phoenix's level of power.


I don't see what the hubbub is, Superman prime or Superman he's still powered by the same stuff.
 
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