Power Levels

[TheCorpulent1]

The last one was a good guy so he doesn't count.

That's just crazy talk, an infant with a beard ........why bother with a beard if nobody can see it?

What, are you serious? One does not have a beard to show it off. One has a beard because it's the right thing to do.

What would make more sense is that Winslow Schott made the robot, and Luthor bought it to do stuff for him.

But Luthor could build his own robot. Why debase himself so much as to buy some secondhand robot off Schott? Luthor would spit on Schott's hunk of crap and then make a robot specifically designed to break Schott's and piss on it.

 

[Spike_x1]

That's not exactly Lex's specialty though. Robots of death are Schott's specialty, however.

The last one was a good guy so he doesn't count.

But they're using Jack Nimble in Justice, the little japanese kid in Batman/Superman, this new schmuck in Superman, and Schott is nowhere to be seen (supposedly given up crime). WTF? That's just overboard on the Toymen. I'm still wondering why the kid in B/S even adopted the alias of "Toyman." What was the point of that, from a writing perspective, I mean?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Justice doesn't count for anything, since it's out of continuity.

The Batman/Superman stuff is way back relative to the current, OYL Superman issues. Maybe the new Toyman is Schott reincarnated as a little robot toy and he killed the Asian kid for taking his name.

I have no idea why the kid took the name Toyman. It probably has something to do with Jeph Loeb having really bad ideas more often than not now, though.

Finally, whether it's Lex's specialty or not, you know he thinks he can build one better than anybody else.

 

[War Lord]

I've never collected Wonder Woman's solo book so...hasn't she been a warrior(ess) for centuries? If so, how can Batman be better than her? One of the silliest moments from Kelly's run IMO was the sparring session between Bats and Wondy. How the #$% could Bats ever hope to keep up with her (unless she was just "playing" with him)?

A person can be a better fighter, skillwise, but still lose against somebody else because the opponent was better able to take a hit or was simply much stronger.

 

[War Lord]

He does seem to build a lot of stuff. Although he's apparently employing the new Toyman to build stuff for him now, so I don't know. Maybe he's not as good an engineer as we think.

Not necessarily. If you are of limited time, to do things yourself takes time from everything else, so you have to choose which things to focus on. If designing new technologies is less important than other things, it's better to hire somebody else to develop new technologies so you can focus on your priorities.

 

[3dman27]

I don't even know who that is. I think I've heard the name twice in passing in my entire life.

there's an article about him on wikipedia.org

 

[3dman27]

judomaster was one of the charlton action heroes dc bought he was sgt rip jagger a ww2 soldider who after saving a partisans life was trained in judo[which would most likely be depicted as NINJITSU nowadays] he worked as a costumed hero though oddly enough his costume resembled the japanese flag
after dc bought him he was used pre crisis as a member of the all star squadron and post crisis as a member of the LAW,LIVING ASSAULT WEAPONS team

 

[Spike_x1]

Justice doesn't count for anything, since it's out of continuity.

I know it's not in continuity, but it's still published by DC, and my original question was...

Jeeze, how many Toymen does DC need?

 

[The Question]

Finally, whether it's Lex's specialty or not, you know he thinks he can build one better than anybody else.

True. But then, it's very possible that he simply didn't have time. I mean, he seems to have been pretty busy in the year that we skipped, and building a robot like that would take months by itself, if not longer.

 

[drastic_quench]

Well at the end of this arc he end's up with a giant Kryptonian crystal robot.

 

[Bullseye]

Superman

*Strongest hero bar none

*Hell, All Star level powerful, except remove the invulnerability to kryptonite and the added powers.

*Not as fast as Flash

Batman

*Peak Human strength

*Best Tactician in the DCU

*Best Detective in the DCU

*One of the top five fighters

*Overall, one of, if not the smartest DCU hero.

Wonder Woman

*Strongest woman in the DCU, tied with Captain Marvel for second strongest in the DCU

*Second to Batman in tactics and fighting

The Flash

*Fastest Man in the DCU. Can vibrate through walls, steal anyone's speed

Green Lantern

*Green Lantern ring is one of the most dangerous weapons in the universe

*Hal Jordan and Alan Scott are the only GL's who could possibly take Superman in a fight.

*If a GL is skilled enough, they can create kryptonite.

That's just about the same way I would view their power levels.

 

[Zeu]

Superman:
-MoS power Levels
-Lift an aircraft carrier at his absolute best
-Supersenses to hear/see everything in Metropolis but not what´s going on in China
- mach 10 speed

Wonder Woman
- Close to Superman´s power levels but has to use the M.A. fighting skills to breach the gap

Batman (stealth, never seen in public, not even at JLA gatherings)
- Best detective in the world (forensics expert, criminal psychology, chemistry)
- Briliantr tactician
- mastered 10 fighting styles that combined into his own stealth style

MM
Swamp Thing´s level of strenght
Telepathy, intangibility, etc.

Flash
Speed Mach 50

Green Lantern
The most powerful weapon in the universe should fit its name. Its full charge can obliterate a planet. Used in combat it could contain the whole JLA but the attacks would deplete the ring in 12 hours

 

[Vanguard07]

I'm constantly annoyed by how much Orion's been depowered recently. Originally he was equal in physical prowess to Darkseid which would make him a hell of a lot stronger than Superman.

Now he's considered to be a third tier heavy hitter. Weaker than wonderwoman. Honestly it disgusts me.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

When he was originally introduced in the Silver Age Orion was far weaker than Superman. Returning him to a lower strength level is simply putting him back the way he was intended. If he's anywhere near WW level then he is still a lot stronger than he was originally.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

Superman

I would actually increase Superman`s powers,in all fields.Near Pre-Crisis levels.He would basically be strong enough to move asteroids or comets.If he really tried,then he could move small planets.He would be extremly fast,almost as fast as Flash.Superman`s hearing and sight would extend over a mile,but if he really wanted to,he could hear things on other continents.Superman would also be able to fly through space,not breathe,hold his breath,how long?Give or take 6 hours..Like in Pre-Crisis cartoons and comics.

Wonder Woman

The best fighter on earth,she is a amazon fighter.Not even Batman can challange her,her golden lasso is nearly unbreakable.Only Superman can break it,due to her abilities to deflect bullets.If Superman would to fire heat vision blasts at her,she could actually reflect them with her bracelets.Her strength would be near Superman`s.

The Flash

The fastest man alive...no,the fastest being to had ever lived.Flash is even faster than Superman,and can run faster than light if he really wanted to.Being able to vibrate his molecules,nearly nothing can contain him.Instant reaction,and agility.

Batman

Perhaps the smarest man on earth,he uses this smarts to actually predict what his opponent will do next.Not peak strength,but all his abilities are slightly more than what a normal human can achive.Batman knows how to read people,therefore he can scare anyone with just a glance.

Green Lantern

Yes,the most powerful weapon in the universe,but Superman is one of the few who can break through it,if he chosed to.The Lantern ring can protect the wearer from high explosions,if Hal Jordan was to weild the ring,he could surive a nuclear blast.Any other Lantern could not do this feat.

Captian Marvel

Nearly as strong as Superman,Marvel can move asteroids,but he uses a decent amount of strength to do so.His Shazam lightning bolts are the only power that rivals the Lantern ring.

I did this already,but its fun to do it again.

 

[Batmanx]

The Strongest in D.C. Heroes:

1. Superman
2.Wonder Woman/Captain Marvel
3.Supergirl/Lobo/Martain ManHunter
4.Powergirl
5.Wonder Woman 2(Donna)/Aguaman/Barda/Marvel Family
6.StarFire
7. Wondergirl/Powerboy