Prometheus - Part 7

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My excitement for this down has gone down quite a bit hearing that the story is quite as ambitious or interesting. However, it does have spectacular visuals which is not surprising.
 
I can't believe how much the trailers and TV spots have given away. Practically everything. David was great, the visuals were great, the effects were great, the Engineers were great. Everything else was mediocre. The editing was woeful. Scenes were clipped just as they were becoming interesting.
 
I asked Sharkboy this but I want to get other opinions from people who have seen it as well, how badass is the engineer? Is he scary at any point??

He was ok. When Fassbender starts speaking the engineers language, that's when the excrement makes contact with the turbine.
However, there's a scene later where the engineers tussles with Rapace's big baby face hugger to which he eventually gets owned and it's from this fatality that we get your very unfriendly xenomorph.
 
Just got back, I liked it :) Alot of questions were raised though and I dont if they are good questions (ie. makes you think) or bad questions (ie. plot holes.).

It feels like the inevitable Directors Cut will be the one to prefer.
 
My 2 cents

Good watch but ultimately underwhelmed.

Firstly, I don't think that the character development is necessarily poor, the story just lacks in dramatic weight and you never feel that the stakes are high. I felt more for Kirk's father's sacrifice in Star Trek than I did for Janek's sacrifice in this film and that really is shocking, given that one character only had a few minutes screentime whereas the other had the best part of 2 hours.

I thought that a good few things went unanswered such as

The murial to the xenomorph and the special green lit stone in comparison to the other specimens being kept in standard jars.
Engineer and what his beef was against the humans.
What was it that decimated the space jockeys.
Who were the original earth dwellers that the jockeys obliterated only for them to reseed the planet with human life.
What was Shaw's reasoning that there was a higher form of life than the jockeys.
What made the jars go crazy and overflow with black goo.
Why exactly did the jockeys create the humans only to seemingly hate them?


Probably all things that will be answered in a sequel but TBH, Ridley's getting on in years, and he's giving priority to a BR sequel right now.

I also didn't think it was scary which was very disappointing. I think a lot of this has to do with the amount they gave away in the trailers though, if I went in blind I probably would have found some key scenes more unsettling.

Bizarre soundtrack too with the same perky theme being played throughout.

But as I said, I enjoyed it. Fassbender great. Rapace great ignoring the dodgy accent. Some great black comedy at play at times too. Definitely worth the admission fee, but I've no desire to see it again. I think 3 stars is harsh, 4 stars is generous, so I'll sit on the fence and say 3.5 stars.
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Just got back, I liked it :) Alot of questions were raised though and I dont if they are good questions (ie. makes you think) or bad questions (ie. plot holes.).

It feels like the inevitable Directors Cut will be the one to prefer.

I really hope to see that 17 to 20 minutes of cut footage from the film.
 
It feels like it's a shiny version of the world of Alien, like the time before everything went dark and industrial.



Pacing-wise I'd say it's much closer to Alien, it's like a retread of that blueprint.

OH, that sounds beautiful. :o
 
Sooo, first things first : Noomi has a slamming body :wow: She was stunning in this one!
I really enjoyed this movie, it was different from what I expected and it left me with a lot of questions and the ending left me unsatisfied and wanting more, not sure how I feel about the ending in general.
 
My 2 cents

Good watch but ultimately underwhelmed.

Firstly, I don't think that the character development is necessarily poor, the story just lacks in dramatic weight and you never feel that the stakes are high. I felt more for Kirk's father's sacrifice in Star Trek than I did for Janek's sacrifice in this film and that really is shocking, given that one character only had a few minutes screentime whereas the other had the best part of 2 hours.

I thought that a good few things went unanswered such as

The murial to the xenomorph and the special green lit stone in comparison to the other specimens being kept in standard jars.
Engineer and what his beef was against the humans.
What was it that decimated the space jockeys.
Who were the original earth dwellers that the jockeys obliterated only for them to reseed the planet with human life.
What was Shaw's reasoning that there was a higher form of life than the jockeys.
What made the jars go crazy and overflow with black goo.
Why exactly did the jockeys create the humans only to seemingly hate them?


Probably all things that will be answered in a sequel but TBH, Ridley's getting on in years, and he's giving priority to a BR sequel right now.

I also didn't think it was scary which was very disappointing. I think a lot of this has to do with the amount they gave away in the trailers though, if I went in blind I probably would have found some key scenes more unsettling.

Bizarre soundtrack too with the same perky theme being played throughout.

But as I said, I enjoyed it. Fassbender great. Rapace great ignoring the dodgy accent. Some great black comedy at play at times too. Definitely worth the admission fee, but I've no desire to see it again. I think 3 stars is harsh, 4 stars is generous, so I'll sit on the fence and say 3.5 stars.
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Just got back from seeing Prometheus and I pretty much agree with everything you said. The film sort of asks more questions then it gives answers and I also thought the ending seemed tacked on
 
So does anyone know if a good amount of footage was actually cut? I thought that Ridley (or someone tied to the production) said this was his full cut that we're seeing in theaters?
 
Yeah I thought what is in the cinema WAS the directors cut, the noises they were making seemed to suggest this was the film Ridley wanted out there
 
Just got back. My review will be up soonish.
 
So does anyone know if a good amount of footage was actually cut? I thought that Ridley (or someone tied to the production) said this was his full cut that we're seeing in theaters?

Ya I don't think there is much backing that, there might be but to me it seems unlikely.

And can't wait for your review Eggy, and Hunter thank you for your review as well.
 
A couple of questions

What does the engineer do to the humans? and is the proto xenomorph the same creature as the big squid fighting the jockey/engineer?
 
A couple of questions

What does the engineer do to the humans? and is the proto xenomorph the same creature as the big squid fighting the jockey/engineer?


David brings wayland and a few of the ships crew to what could be called the cockpit of the engineers ship, once David wakes him up the engineer goes on a rampage killing all the humans and David cept for Shaw who escapes

As for your second question, not quite. It seems that the huge squid monster is a sort of proto face hugger, who attaches its self the engineer and at the end when it comes back to the seemingly dead engineer the squid has gone and then proto xenomorph makes its appearance
 
A couple of questions

What does the engineer do to the humans? and is the proto xenomorph the same creature as the big squid fighting the jockey/engineer?

This is me procrastinating while I try to get my head around wtf I've just seen lol. I won't hold back when answering a question so make sure you actually want to know.

He kills them.

No. The squid is a proto face hugger, like the daddy of all face huggers. The xenomorph is at the very end. And I mean the very end.
 
This is me procrastinating while I try to get my head around wtf I've just seen lol. I won't hold back when answering a question so make sure you actually want to know.

He kills them.

No. The squid is a proto face hugger, like the daddy of all face huggers. The xenomorph is at the very end. And I mean the very end.

Eggyman do you agree with me that the ending when we go back the engineer seemed a bit forced and tacked on to sort of appease those going in wanting a "prequel"
 
Question for anyone else who has seen it....

I'm taking it that the alien ship we see in Prometheus is not the ship we see in Alien, due to the location of the jockey at the end. Agreed? What we whitnessed in Prometheus is almost an alternate happening of how the sh** can go down. Agreed?
 
The way of raising questions without answering them I don't get as a complaint, that's exactly what I expected and wanted. The mystery was obviously deliberate and never meant to be explained. Me and my brother who saw the movie has already had long discussions about how we thought certain things went or hung together. It's not plot-holes, it's being ambiguous. Now if you don't like that style that's another thing.

It's like complaining that you didn't get any answers in Alien about where everything came from and how things fitted together.
 
Question for anyone else who has seen it....

I'm taking it that the alien ship we see in Prometheus is not the ship we see in Alien, due to the location of the jockey at the end. Agreed? What we whitnessed in Prometheus is almost an alternate happening of how the sh** can go down. Agreed?


Yeah I'd agree with that, I'd go with what the capatin said about the planet , that it was military site and the engineers were making weapons of mass destruction, cept on the planet in Alien sh**t went down big time
 
Eggyman do you agree with me that the ending when we go back the engineer seemed a bit forced and tacked on to sort of appease those going in wanting a "prequel"

Yes. I thought it seemed more like a mid-credit scene. I also thought that what happened just before that seemed a little rushed. Just like, Here's my plan, then it happens.

Flying away....
 
Question for anyone else who has seen it....

I'm taking it that the alien ship we see in Prometheus is not the ship we see in Alien, due to the location of the jockey at the end. Agreed? What we whitnessed in Prometheus is almost an alternate happening of how the sh** can go down. Agreed?

Is the final scene you mentioned above after the credits, or just at the end?
 
Yes. I thought it seemed more like a mid-credit scene. I also thought that what happened just before that seemed a little rushed. Just like, Here's my plan, then it happens.

Flying away....

Totally agree with you, it felt like "lets make a franchise!"
 
Is the final scene you mentioned above after the credits, or just at the end?

At the end. I thought it would've suited being mid- or post-credits, personally.
 
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