Prometheus - Part 9

[DarthSkywalker]

Anyone here seen the Honest Trailer for Prometheus? Nails it.

 

[CrypticOne]

This may have already been brought up, but did anyone notice the difference in ships the Engineers had? In the beginning of the movie, that spaceship looks nothing like the ones at the end. I'm assuming the ones at the end are for battle?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

This may have already been brought up, but did anyone notice the difference in ships the Engineers had? In the beginning of the movie, that spaceship looks nothing like the ones at the end. I'm assuming the ones at the end are for battle?

It could just be the ones on the planet are more technologically advanced than the one we saw on primordial Earth, there was a long time from the beginning of life on Earth to when they were going to destroy us.

 

[CrypticOne]

I'm guessing the ones that wanted to destroy us, were coming to destroy us around the time of Jesus? So many questions. I've watched this film like 5 times already within the past two weeks.

 

[chamber-music]

I just thought like others have said that the ships at the beginning were older and thus a different model.

 

[Raoul Duke]

i've never seen a film that is simultaneously so intelligent yet so stupid at the same time. very thought provoking and i love how the film and it's lack of answers is basically a metaphor for all of science (questions don't have answers, they lead to more questions). but then the fundamental film making aspects were a bit iffy. some of the acting was truly horrendous, especially by that scottish woman with the horrible hair. and how did the two guys get lost? oh i know, to service the plot.

overall i'd say this is the very definition of a flawed masterpiece.

edit: also i'm 99% sure i was standing next to noomi rapace on the tube last week. didn't want to be a tool and say anything though! does she live in london or is filming another film there?

 

[Destructus86]

I'm still thinking the ships are different because there are two different sides to the aliens. The extremists and the creators.

 

[TheSymbol]

i liked this film more then the other films.

 

[CConn]

i've never seen a film that is simultaneously so intelligent yet so stupid at the same time. very thought provoking and i love how the film and it's lack of answers is basically a metaphor for all of science (questions don't have answers, they lead to more questions). but then the fundamental film making aspects were a bit iffy. some of the acting was truly horrendous, especially by that scottish woman with the horrible hair. and how did the two guys get lost? oh i know, to service the plot.

overall i'd say this is the very definition of a flawed masterpiece.

edit: also i'm 99% sure i was standing next to noomi rapace on the tube last week. didn't want to be a tool and say anything though! does she live in london or is filming another film there?

That's an incredibly apt critique of the film.

 

[Raoul Duke]

thanks! it does have flaws, quite a few. but the good overshadows the bad by a long way, for me.

 

[Maximus One]

I felt basically the same about it. My first remark about it when I first saw it was "What an incredibly ambitious and smart yet dumb film"

 

[craigdbfan]

i've never seen a film that is simultaneously so intelligent yet so stupid at the same time. very thought provoking and i love how the film and it's lack of answers is basically a metaphor for all of science (questions don't have answers, they lead to more questions). but then the fundamental film making aspects were a bit iffy. some of the acting was truly horrendous, especially by that scottish woman with the horrible hair. and how did the two guys get lost? oh i know, to service the plot.

overall i'd say this is the very definition of a flawed masterpiece.

edit: also i'm 99% sure i was standing next to noomi rapace on the tube last week. didn't want to be a tool and say anything though! does she live in london or is filming another film there?

You probably did seeing as she does live in London.

 

[Marvolo]

I just thought like others have said that the ships at the beginning were older and thus a different model.

You are correct. Ridley says the saucer like ship is of an older design in the documentary.

 

[Bruce Malone]

So i just watched the film. I can see why it left a mixed impression with people who saw it. It was ambitious but it missed quite a few steps. The ideas were all there but the execution was sloppy.

However as for the ending I just find it a bit hard to believe why shaw would want to go to the home planet of the engineers? Yes I know she wants answers but the one engineer she met repeatedly tried to kill her. Now she wants to go to a whole planet of them?

Why would she not think she wouldn't be killed the moment she stepped off her ship?

It's one thing to stretch belief in character action but stretching the idea of human survival to not got out of your way to die, i don't know?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Well, she has lost everything that has ever meant anything to her, her parents, the love of her life, not to mention the beings she believed in for a long time turned out to be anything but the noble gods she expected.

She now has nothing to lose, so probably figures what the hell, why not go and try and get some answers.

 

[Nathan]

And maybe drop one of those canisters and contaminate the entire planet.

 

[CConn]

I just watched Lawrence of Arabia for the first time (I was waiting for Blu-Ray), and while, obviously, all of the references to LoA are well known and very obvious in Prometheus, I'm surprised I've never heard anyone mention that Fassbender's performance is nearly identical to Peter O'Tool's; the inflection of his voice, his mannerisms, even some of his personality traits are lifted right from T.E. Lawrence.

I don't know if that makes his performance more impressive or less, but either way it's pretty interesting.

 

[Bruce Malone]

^^^

Hmm from what i've read about the film it made it known that the character of david did go out of his way to model himself after T.E. Lawrence. I mean there was the scene where you see him trying to style his hair after peter o'tool in that film.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

And maybe drop one of those canisters and contaminate the entire planet.

Well yeah, get some answers, then depending on the situation in the movie, if they are all hostile give them a taste of their own weapon.

 

[CConn]

^^^

Hmm from what i've read about the film it made it known that the character of david did go out of his way to model himself after T.E. Lawrence. I mean there was the scene where you see him trying to style his hair after peter o'tool in that film.

Yes, but as I already said, I'm talking about Fassbender's performance itself. He did an uncanny job of mimicking O'Tool note for note...not just any actor could be that precise. wWich I'm not quite sure is a compliment to his acting ability or not.

 

[Marvolo]

Yes, but as I already said, I'm talking about Fassbender's performance itself. He did an uncanny job of mimicking O'Tool note for note...not just any actor could be that precise. wWich I'm not quite sure is a compliment to his acting ability or not.

No doubt. If some fool was to ever be brave enough to remake Lawrence of Arabia they better hire Fassbender because he can channel O'Toole amazingly well.

 

[Brother Jack]

So i just watched the film. I can see why it left a mixed impression with people who saw it. It was ambitious but it missed quite a few steps. The ideas were all there but the execution was sloppy.

However as for the ending I just find it a bit hard to believe why shaw would want to go to the home planet of the engineers? Yes I know she wants answers but the one engineer she met repeatedly tried to kill her. Now she wants to go to a whole planet of them?

Why would she not think she wouldn't be killed the moment she stepped off her ship?

It's one thing to stretch belief in character action but stretching the idea of human survival to not got out of your way to die, i don't know?

The ending is one of the movie's biggest flaws I think, because it isn't really an ending at all. Shaw concludes the movie exactly the same way as she begins, without appearing to internalize any of the lessons she learned (the whole "we were so wrong" stuff). She's still going after her answers even though that pursuit was disastrous and she expressed much remorse about it. Where I thought the movie would end and where I still think it should have was Shaw realizing after everyone but her dies that her pursuit of answers was always futile, because the movie shows that the pursuit of answers only lead to more questions (something that also shows up in Lindelof's LOST). But I guess that ending wouldn't be as sequel-friendly.

 

[Joss Whedon]

Yes, but as I already said, I'm talking about Fassbender's performance itself. He did an uncanny job of mimicking O'Tool note for note...not just any actor could be that precise. wWich I'm not quite sure is a compliment to his acting ability or not.

Weyland designed sculpted him in the image of Lawrence. And they wrote him as that being big fans of one of the greatest films of all time.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

To echo BH/HHH's opinion in that other thread, yeah, this movie was pretty disappointing.

 

[BH/HHH]

Sorry if there's a thread on this but I couldn't find it.

So I just wasted two hours watching Prometheus. What a load of tosh that was. I've never seen such stupidity in a movie in my life, examples: 'there's a snake looking thing, I know I'll try n touch it' or even better 'this massive ship is falling on me instead if rolling to the side as it falls straight down on me ill keep on running straight in its eye line'. Finally the ending I have an idea instead if making an intriguing story on how Aliens were created we'll just shoehorn something in that has no relevance to the story so then we can reveal an alien at the end.

Also why bother casting Guy Prarce when all the time he plays an old man? I know they did a marketing campaign with videos of him as a young man but it was pretty stupid, they might aswell have just cast an older actor.

Only good thing about the film was Michael Fassbender, bit of advice Ridley Scott don't make Prometheus 2 at all cause we know you'll end up making it drag out even more for a third movie. Worst film of 2012!

PS. It's funny how much crappy stuff I noticed before seeing the Honest Trailer for it on YouTube.

That's what I wrote