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Really? after all the "unrealistic" stuff and stupid actions we had to endure throughout the movie, this is what bothered him ?
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If we can watch 4 Alien movies of a skinny tall Sigourney Weaver fight Aliens I don't see why we can't see a short ripped Noomi Rapace fight an Engineer.
If people ar willing to except accept the human race was create from albino aliens I doubt they would be complaining about the fight
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Honestly, I find that thing a lot more creepy than the regular Xenomorph.
Video of the deleted scenes from the iTunes release can be watched here
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/3347
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/3347
I still think that suit the Engineer wears when David wakes him up isn't just a suit, but it's body. It looks like they've modified their bodies because certain parts of the suit go right into it's skin. It makes me wonder what happened to their race from the beginning of the movie to when we meet the lone Engineer?
Also the Engineer from the first Alien was really big, but these one's weren't as big. I mean Ridley made both movies, did he just ignore his own work or is he perhaps waiting to explain the difference?
I can't wait to see all of the deleted scenes though. I really want to listen to the commentary too.
Also the Engineer from the first Alien was really big, but these one's weren't as big. I mean Ridley made both movies, did he just ignore his own work or is he perhaps waiting to explain the difference?
I can't wait to see all of the deleted scenes though. I really want to listen to the commentary too.
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here you have all the deleted scenes
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/videos-prometheus-deleted-scenes-itunes/
i think everything with the engineer works very good. everything from hurting Shaw and Wayland thinking he is a god to the final fight.
http://www.prometheusnews.net/movie/videos-prometheus-deleted-scenes-itunes/
i think everything with the engineer works very good. everything from hurting Shaw and Wayland thinking he is a god to the final fight.
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Have all of the deleted scenes been released?
I've yet to hear anyone talk about The Engineer sacrifice and Paradise.
I've yet to hear anyone talk about The Engineer sacrifice and Paradise.
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i think those are all the deleted scenes from the digital realese that is this week. FOX realesed the movie online.
the original opening deleted scene will be on the BR
Well after seeing this, there is a lot of cut out material that should have been in the movie,
But sadly the full version makes you realize how underused the engineer is, He's supposed to be that advanced being, and they just turned him out to be a simple growling beast, he just serves the purpose of being "scary".
But sadly the full version makes you realize how underused the engineer is, He's supposed to be that advanced being, and they just turned him out to be a simple growling beast, he just serves the purpose of being "scary".
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Janek talking about being in the military and his mission to Jordan explains how he knew what the engineers were up to.
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Oh okay. Thus far, The Engineer Speaks, Janek's Discovery and Shaw-vs-The Engineer have been the only interesting scenes.
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Ford freezing when the engineer comes at her from the tv spots was in the engineer speaks scene.
Atleast that one merc got to shot the engineer
Atleast that one merc got to shot the engineer
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I liked the movie.
But, if you have a scene of the Engineer talking and it doesn't fit the movie and you have to delete all those scenes, there was something during the writing process that just didn't work.
But, if you have a scene of the Engineer talking and it doesn't fit the movie and you have to delete all those scenes, there was something during the writing process that just didn't work.
So it's getting released online first, and then it comes out on dvd in October? Will the dvd have all of the deleted scenes? I don't have a blu-ray player. How much was cut out? I remember reading awhile back that it was around 30 minutes worth of material, so I hope we get to see all of it.
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I freaking loved this scene, perfect way to end the movie, especially with the 2nd jaw coming out, loved this movie and this scene was one of the many reasons why.
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Ridley Scott commentary. 5 links
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/3366/ridley-scott-commentary-discussion/p3
Damon Lindelof & Jon Spaihts commentary
* The Primordial ship was originally meant to be the Alien Derelict/Juggernaut ship in Lindelof’s draft, but Ridley Scott thought it would be cooler to show something else.
* The opening sequence was meant to be longer, showing a group of Engineers talking to each other in a proto-language.
* In most of Spaihts’ drafts, the black material that consumed the Sacrifice Engineer transmuted, flew away and bit a primitive woman/man. Their pupils dilated and you could see something change inside them. Another version included a salamander-like hand reach out of the water.
* There was a scene cut for financial reasons in which a submarine expedition are looking at a sunken city in the Mediterranean where they find a giant tablet with a star map on it. A different version of the script included an archaeological dig on Mars where they found ruins sharing similarities with ancient ruins on Earth.
* In some of Spaihts drafts, Holloway and Shaw went to visit Weyland in his private residence, a space station orbiting around Earth. Another one included the couple travelling to Mars and visiting Weyland in his home which had a view of the terraforming work taking place on the planet.
* Jon Spaihts imagined Holloway as an older person, perhaps inappropriately old for Shaw as a mate. Additionally Shaw was Holloway’s student at university.
* There was a scene were Milburn discovers a little worm and talks about how important this discovery is. Lindelof mentions that this would have kinda explained why he was so excited about his later encounter with the Hammerpede.
* Spaihts experimented with the idea that the Engineers saw in a whiter spectrum than human beings did. To David’s eyes, the ruins and catacombs showed interfaces that only he could see. Picking up clues that nobody else was picking up.
* In the script, when David breaks the Ampule open, they cut to David’s POV and showed the black goo at a microscopic level.
* In Spaihts version of the story, Holloway awakens a Facehugger while he is exploring the pyramid. He is implanted with an Alien, the “classic model”. The “Alien” burst out of Holloway during the love scene between Shaw and Holloway.
* Spaihts’ draft included a cargo hold filled up with Alien eggs, David discovers this area. This scene revealed the purpose of the Juggernaut ship which was on its way to Earth to undo the human experiment. When Shaw follows David into the vaults of the ship, he deliberately infected her with a Facehugger. He also took her helmet so she couldn’t run back to the ship and save her life by using the med pod. She still makes it back there by holding her breath and using compressed air.
* In the earlier draft by Jon Spaihts, a kind of classic chestburster is extracted from Shaw’s body during the med pod scene. The chestburster is then expelled from the pod and Shaw stays in there while it heals her. As she wakes up, she can see the monster grow up. Eight hours later the monster is full size and she’s watching it kill people through the glass.
* Lindelof mentions that there was a two page dialogue exchange between David and the Engineer.
* In Spaihts’ draft, the last Engineer died in the pilot’s chair. He had been infected and was carrying a Chestburster. It emerged from him while the Juggernaut was flying which caused the Juggernaut to falter on its path, allowing the Magellan ship to ram it. Shaw manages to eject from the ship just before the ramming took place. Then the Alien that just emerged from the Engineer comes out of the Juggernaut and the final action scene is Shaw being hunted by this creature.
* Towards the end of the film, Lindeof talks about a deleted scene in which Shaw asks David what it is that the Engineer said to him during their earlier conversation. David tells Shaw that the Engineer told him that they did not come from there [LV-223] but a place called “Paradise”.
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/3366/ridley-scott-commentary-discussion/p3
Damon Lindelof & Jon Spaihts commentary
* The Primordial ship was originally meant to be the Alien Derelict/Juggernaut ship in Lindelof’s draft, but Ridley Scott thought it would be cooler to show something else.
* The opening sequence was meant to be longer, showing a group of Engineers talking to each other in a proto-language.
* In most of Spaihts’ drafts, the black material that consumed the Sacrifice Engineer transmuted, flew away and bit a primitive woman/man. Their pupils dilated and you could see something change inside them. Another version included a salamander-like hand reach out of the water.
* There was a scene cut for financial reasons in which a submarine expedition are looking at a sunken city in the Mediterranean where they find a giant tablet with a star map on it. A different version of the script included an archaeological dig on Mars where they found ruins sharing similarities with ancient ruins on Earth.
* In some of Spaihts drafts, Holloway and Shaw went to visit Weyland in his private residence, a space station orbiting around Earth. Another one included the couple travelling to Mars and visiting Weyland in his home which had a view of the terraforming work taking place on the planet.
* Jon Spaihts imagined Holloway as an older person, perhaps inappropriately old for Shaw as a mate. Additionally Shaw was Holloway’s student at university.
* There was a scene were Milburn discovers a little worm and talks about how important this discovery is. Lindelof mentions that this would have kinda explained why he was so excited about his later encounter with the Hammerpede.
* Spaihts experimented with the idea that the Engineers saw in a whiter spectrum than human beings did. To David’s eyes, the ruins and catacombs showed interfaces that only he could see. Picking up clues that nobody else was picking up.
* In the script, when David breaks the Ampule open, they cut to David’s POV and showed the black goo at a microscopic level.
* In Spaihts version of the story, Holloway awakens a Facehugger while he is exploring the pyramid. He is implanted with an Alien, the “classic model”. The “Alien” burst out of Holloway during the love scene between Shaw and Holloway.
* Spaihts’ draft included a cargo hold filled up with Alien eggs, David discovers this area. This scene revealed the purpose of the Juggernaut ship which was on its way to Earth to undo the human experiment. When Shaw follows David into the vaults of the ship, he deliberately infected her with a Facehugger. He also took her helmet so she couldn’t run back to the ship and save her life by using the med pod. She still makes it back there by holding her breath and using compressed air.
* In the earlier draft by Jon Spaihts, a kind of classic chestburster is extracted from Shaw’s body during the med pod scene. The chestburster is then expelled from the pod and Shaw stays in there while it heals her. As she wakes up, she can see the monster grow up. Eight hours later the monster is full size and she’s watching it kill people through the glass.
* Lindelof mentions that there was a two page dialogue exchange between David and the Engineer.
* In Spaihts’ draft, the last Engineer died in the pilot’s chair. He had been infected and was carrying a Chestburster. It emerged from him while the Juggernaut was flying which caused the Juggernaut to falter on its path, allowing the Magellan ship to ram it. Shaw manages to eject from the ship just before the ramming took place. Then the Alien that just emerged from the Engineer comes out of the Juggernaut and the final action scene is Shaw being hunted by this creature.
* Towards the end of the film, Lindeof talks about a deleted scene in which Shaw asks David what it is that the Engineer said to him during their earlier conversation. David tells Shaw that the Engineer told him that they did not come from there [LV-223] but a place called “Paradise”.
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Ridley Scott commentary. 5 links
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/3366/ridley-scott-commentary-discussion/p3
Damon Lindelof & Jon Spaihts commentary
* The Primordial ship was originally meant to be the Alien Derelict/Juggernaut ship in Lindelof’s draft, but Ridley Scott thought it would be cooler to show something else.
* The opening sequence was meant to be longer, showing a group of Engineers talking to each other in a proto-language.
* In most of Spaihts’ drafts, the black material that consumed the Sacrifice Engineer transmuted, flew away and bit a primitive woman/man. Their pupils dilated and you could see something change inside them. Another version included a salamander-like hand reach out of the water.
* There was a scene cut for financial reasons in which a submarine expedition are looking at a sunken city in the Mediterranean where they find a giant tablet with a star map on it. A different version of the script included an archaeological dig on Mars where they found ruins sharing similarities with ancient ruins on Earth.
* In some of Spaihts drafts, Holloway and Shaw went to visit Weyland in his private residence, a space station orbiting around Earth. Another one included the couple travelling to Mars and visiting Weyland in his home which had a view of the terraforming work taking place on the planet.
* Jon Spaihts imagined Holloway as an older person, perhaps inappropriately old for Shaw as a mate. Additionally Shaw was Holloway’s student at university.
* There was a scene were Milburn discovers a little worm and talks about how important this discovery is. Lindelof mentions that this would have kinda explained why he was so excited about his later encounter with the Hammerpede.
* Spaihts experimented with the idea that the Engineers saw in a whiter spectrum than human beings did. To David’s eyes, the ruins and catacombs showed interfaces that only he could see. Picking up clues that nobody else was picking up.
* In the script, when David breaks the Ampule open, they cut to David’s POV and showed the black goo at a microscopic level.
* In Spaihts version of the story, Holloway awakens a Facehugger while he is exploring the pyramid. He is implanted with an Alien, the “classic model”. The “Alien” burst out of Holloway during the love scene between Shaw and Holloway.
* Spaihts’ draft included a cargo hold filled up with Alien eggs, David discovers this area. This scene revealed the purpose of the Juggernaut ship which was on its way to Earth to undo the human experiment. When Shaw follows David into the vaults of the ship, he deliberately infected her with a Facehugger. He also took her helmet so she couldn’t run back to the ship and save her life by using the med pod. She still makes it back there by holding her breath and using compressed air.
* In the earlier draft by Jon Spaihts, a kind of classic chestburster is extracted from Shaw’s body during the med pod scene. The chestburster is then expelled from the pod and Shaw stays in there while it heals her. As she wakes up, she can see the monster grow up. Eight hours later the monster is full size and she’s watching it kill people through the glass.
* Lindelof mentions that there was a two page dialogue exchange between David and the Engineer.
* In Spaihts’ draft, the last Engineer died in the pilot’s chair. He had been infected and was carrying a Chestburster. It emerged from him while the Juggernaut was flying which caused the Juggernaut to falter on its path, allowing the Magellan ship to ram it. Shaw manages to eject from the ship just before the ramming took place. Then the Alien that just emerged from the Engineer comes out of the Juggernaut and the final action scene is Shaw being hunted by this creature.
* Towards the end of the film, Lindeof talks about a deleted scene in which Shaw asks David what it is that the Engineer said to him during their earlier conversation. David tells Shaw that the Engineer told him that they did not come from there [LV-223] but a place called “Paradise”.
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This is what I thought and should of been kept in. Milburn taking a biological intrest in a new species makes more sense than him just finding it cute.
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so anyone listened to Scott's commentary that i posted?
so funny moments. he said that after so many years and movies he still gets asked why he did this and that and that. and he says that they dont have any experience and are just stupid hehe.
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so funny moments. he said that after so many years and movies he still gets asked why he did this and that and that. and he says that they dont have any experience and are just stupid hehe.
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Some VERY interesting stuff from the writers there, glad some of it got cut but some of it should definately have been left in. Namely the conversation with the Engineer, David telling Shaw what he said and the action scene with The Deacon could have been interesting.
The Engineer dying in the chair from a chestburger also would have linked it a lot more to Alien as would the planet originally being LV-426. I personally think this should have been kept as well just to tie everything up and not leave people with so many questions which seemed to be a big complaint.
The Engineer dying in the chair from a chestburger also would have linked it a lot more to Alien as would the planet originally being LV-426. I personally think this should have been kept as well just to tie everything up and not leave people with so many questions which seemed to be a big complaint.
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