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Sequels Rachel McAdams for Mary Jane

BT18 said:
Just because a movie has a made up billboard with an actresses face on it (essentially a photoshop job) doesn't make her passable for or as hot as a real big time model who would get the kind of campaign that would put you on a Manhattan billboard advertising perfume.

Still, Kirsten has actually done modeling ads in real life, so to say she's not suited to play a model in a movie doesn't make any sense. And even though the billboard was made up for the movie, model billboards in the real world are made up too, and judging by the fact that she looks good on it, i'd say she can pass as a model. My main point is I don't see why ppl think Dunst is so ugly when she's been way hotter in other movies.
 
Elmo said:
beautiful, but not overly gorgeous ... :confused:

one of them oxymoron thingies i guess .... :o

id describe it more as a kind of cute in the right sort of light ... and that aint mj.

There's a difference between pretty/beautiful and uber-sexy steaming hot like a Victoria Secret model. And those of you who say MJ should be like a Victoria model are idiots, because she's also supposed to be the girl next door type. So I think the pretty/cute look is a good balance.
 
tonytr1687 said:
Still, Kirsten has actually done modeling ads in real life, so to say she's not suited to play a model in a movie doesn't make any sense. And even though the billboard was made up for the movie, model billboards in the real world are made up too, and judging by the fact that she looks good on it, i'd say she can pass as a model. My main point is I don't see why ppl think Dunst is so ugly when she's been way hotter in other movies.

um, she has? where?

If she has it was for her celebrity, not her beauty. Like some makeup or skincare add, the kind that Queen Latifah gets.
 
BT18 said:
um, she has? where?

If she has it was for her celebrity, not her beauty. Like some makeup or skincare add, the kind that Queen Latifah gets.

It's called all those skimpy lay-outs she used to do in entertainment magazines and maxim and whatnot. That's still considered modeling whether you like it or not. And since when did Queen Latifah do skin-care ads? A lot of people here just seem to jump on Dunst-hating bandwagon and it makes me sick.
 
No that isn't modeling. It's publicity and self promotion. It isn't "Dunst hating". Unless in peoples psychotic minds anyone that any other person doesn't consider hot or hot enough is "hated" by them.
 
It's a form of modeling because they're posing for photos. Modeling is more than just people showing off clothes while walking down a runway, I would know I used to be in the business. And I'm not just talking about people calling her ugly when I refer to Dunst-hating, I'm talking about how they bash her for everything. Outside of these boards she's actually respected a little more than other young actresses now after roles in Eternal Sunshine, Virgin Suicides, Crazy/Beautiful, as well as the Spidey flicks. Yes she may be ditzy in real life but I'm talking about her work on film. It's not all cheerleader teen flicks.
 
I absolutely LOVE Rachel McAdams (after watching Mean Girls) but we already have a Mary Jane. I think she could pull off Gwen Stacy:up:
 
tonytr1687 said:
There's a difference between pretty/beautiful and uber-sexy steaming hot like a Victoria Secret model.

you're right there is a difference between "pretty" and "beautiful" and lately Kirsten is pushing hittin on pretty.

and where the **** did you get the idea mj was the girl next door type what comics you been reading? :confused:

besides ... big difference between the girl next door and the dog next door. :o
 
Elmo said:
you're right there is a difference between "pretty" and "beautiful" and lately Kirsten is pushing hittin on pretty.

and where the **** did you get the idea mj was the girl next door type what comics you been reading? :confused:

besides ... big difference between the girl next door and the dog next door. :o

MJ was his next door neighbor, that's what I mean. And dog next door? WTF is with you people? You obviously haven't seen ugly if you think Kirsten is a dog. Watch her in Bring it On or Elizabethtown and tell me she's a dog.
 
tonytr1687 said:
MJ was his next door neighbor, that's what I mean. And dog next door? WTF is with you people? You obviously haven't seen ugly if you think Kirsten is a dog. Watch her in Bring it On or Elizabethtown and tell me she's a dog.

living next door (which was a retcon btw) is not the same as a "girl next door type". mary jane is a knockout drop dead gorgeous *jackpot*. If kirsten represents that for you i feel sorry for you. :o

... watched 'em ... *sound of a can-opener* *woof woof* :p :D
 
tonytr1687 said:
MJ was his next door neighbor, that's what I mean. And dog next door? WTF is with you people? You obviously haven't seen ugly if you think Kirsten is a dog. Watch her in Bring it On or Elizabethtown and tell me she's a dog.

KD is not hot, never has been, she's pretty at best but her appearance in sm2 was a complete disaster. Bring it on? Meh, she was mediocre, Elizabethtown, like I'm really going to watch that garbage :rolleyes: again, she doesn't look anything extraordinaryly special in that too.

The fact is, KD needs to fix up and look sharp, thats how MJ is and if KD is playing the character, how about she represent the character to the fullest.
 
The fact is they're not trying to make Kirsten drop-dead gorgeous because in reality, what are the chances of a perfect Heidi Klum-esque model wanting to hook up with Peter? Not very good. They wanted MJ to be more girl next door so people can relate to her and for her relationship with Peter to be more realistic, and I like it that way. People need to accept this isn't the comics. And no I don't think Kirsten is drop-dead gorgeous, but anyone who thinks she's a dog hasn't seen Rosie O'Donnell or that bony chocolate cake girl or any other truly ugly actress. People just call Kirsten ugly b/c they're biased against her off-screen personality. I agree though that she didn't look so hot in SM2, but in other movies she's at the very least pretty and I don't see how pretty=ugly. It's not like any of you guys could even get someone like Kirsten anyway.
 
spider-jide said:
KD is not hot, never has been, she's pretty at best but her appearance in sm2 was a complete disaster. Bring it on? Meh, she was mediocre, Elizabethtown, like I'm really going to watch that garbage :rolleyes: again, she doesn't look anything extraordinaryly special in that too.

The fact is, KD needs to fix up and look sharp, thats how MJ is and if KD is playing the character, how about she represent the character to the fullest.

I think Kirsten was very hot in "Bring it On". To be hot I think she had to have the blonde hair, styled well, and show off her body.
 
Oh, yeah she'd be a great replacement. . .but I just supposed MJ would die in Spidey 3 and they would just bring another woman into Peter's life (which has happened too often in the comics):o
 
It is not a proven fact that drop-dead gorgeous girls want only gorgeous men. I just flipped past yet another VH1 program about beautiful people the other day. A super model was on and was talking about why she prefers guys who are considered "geeks" over the "cool guys" because they have something those cool guys wouldn't understand, an appreciation for something they wouldn't normally have in life.

Its possible. And no one's saying MJ has to be drop dead gorgeous. But she was "feeling faint" gorgeous and was on a higher level of popularity than Peter could ever hope to be in highschool. Its just how it was. We'd never know because the movies didn't spend that much time in highschool.

Sometimes, some girls actually do consider "whats on the inside". During highschool? No, not really. College? Maybe, after college? Well, Peter's lucky seeing how he's never had an impressive, steady career. But then again, maybe that didn't matter to MJ. I'd say Peter's passion and sense of direction in life attracted all of those girls to him (sadly we only see two of those girls, MJ, and Betty Brant).
 
tonytr1687 said:
The fact is they're not trying to make Kirsten drop-dead gorgeous because in reality, what are the chances of a perfect Heidi Klum-esque model wanting to hook up with Peter? Not very good. They wanted MJ to be more girl next door so people can relate to her and for her relationship with Peter to be more realistic, and I like it that way. People need to accept this isn't the comics. And no I don't think Kirsten is drop-dead gorgeous, but anyone who thinks she's a dog hasn't seen Rosie O'Donnell or that bony chocolate cake girl or any other truly ugly actress. People just call Kirsten ugly b/c they're biased against her off-screen personality. I agree though that she didn't look so hot in SM2, but in other movies she's at the very least pretty and I don't see how pretty=ugly. It's not like any of you guys could even get someone like Kirsten anyway.

Please, there are some serious ugly guys out there with hot girls and a lot of these guys aren't even rich.

Look at Faith Evans and Biggie Smalls, both are rich (well biggie was) and they loved each other, Faith could have any man but she loved biggie, same thing for kim as well.

Peter isn't an ugly dude either, they need to mke maguire look better and more appealing while they're at it.

As for me, I get with girls every 2 freakin days that make kirsten look like skin-sh1t, kirsten is nothing special, she's anything.
 
Exactly. A few less "agressive Peter" faces (like when he tried to jump the roof in the last movie?) would be nice. I almost spat out my soda with laughter when I saw that face.

And boy was it worse in IMAX format! :P

But you're right, Peter wasn't/isn't a bad looking guy (from a guy's point of view) and I've actually seen beautiful girls I know say the thought Tobey was cute (boy, did I argue that one, though it gave me a little hope...).

If beautiful people were only interested in beautiful people, then by now, the world should be filled with beautiful people.
 
Hey guys, I don't believe the whole 'beautiful girls only get with beautiful guys' idea myself. But the fact is most of the general public does, and therefore I think they made MJ less model-like and more girl next door so women could relate to her better and so people would buy into their relationship a little more. And I was wrong to say most of you couldn't get with a girl like Kirsten, but I'm just trying to make a point that just b/c Kirsten isn't drop-dead gorgeous and doesn't look like a Victoria Secret model, it doesn't mean she's ugly. I mean ppl on here (not necessarily right now with you guys, but many other boarders in the past) moan about her being ugly so much that it makes them look really shallow. Like Shallow Hal kinda shallow.
 
I think they picked Dunst because she was the best out of the actresses who auditioned for the role.
 
craigaat said:
I think they picked Dunst because she was the best out of the actresses who auditioned for the role.

Well yeah that too. I don't get why all these ppl think Alicia Witt would've been better. I mean yeah Kirsten isn't the best actress but at least she's decent and does decent-to-good movies most of the time. What has Alicia Witt done?
 
craigaat said:
I think they picked Dunst because she was the best out of the actresses who auditioned for the role.

Thats not saying much. Many of the hot/good actresses who were in line for the role weren't interested at all. Kate Hudson was the studio's first choice but she didn't want to do it. Those who auditioned for the role were probably a bunch of part time waitress nobodies, KD was a last resort for a familiar actress to play the role.
 
spider-jide said:
KD was a last resort for a familiar actress to play the role.

we have nothing bordering on enough information to support that statement. We only know about the actresses that have come to be known to have auditioned/been considered/offered due to incidental press/articles here and there. The filmmakers and studio never published a complete list or anything.
 
tonytr1687 said:
Hey guys, I don't believe the whole 'beautiful girls only get with beautiful guys' idea myself. But the fact is most of the general public does, and therefore I think they made MJ less model-like and more girl next door so women could relate to her better and so people would buy into their relationship a little more. And I was wrong to say most of you couldn't get with a girl like Kirsten, but I'm just trying to make a point that just b/c Kirsten isn't drop-dead gorgeous and doesn't look like a Victoria Secret model, it doesn't mean she's ugly. I mean ppl on here (not necessarily right now with you guys, but many other boarders in the past) moan about her being ugly so much that it makes them look really shallow. Like Shallow Hal kinda shallow.

what a coincedence MJ is the girl next door, and it works perfectly. I agree with you. I think it's even better, without her being drop dead gorgeous. After all Peter's not drop dead gorgeous.
 

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