racism in hollywood - and how far it has come.

[XtremelyBaneful]

I just saw fast 7 last night. First f&f movie I've ever seen.

 

[Octoberist]

haha you never gave the other movies a chance?

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

haha you never gave the other movies a chance?

it's not that I never gave them a chance, I just never really cared about them. Like, I was never interested enough to go watch one or anything like that.

 

[Manic]

I only watched the first one because my friends were a bunch of car enthusiasts. I imagine the franchise would've completely passed me by otherwise.

 

[warhorse78]

Racism in Hollywood. What about sexism? I mean, unless it's an actress, and 98% in that has to be pretty and fit, behind the scenes has shown little diversity when it comes to women. When was the last time a superhero movi was directed by a woman?

Or lets combine the two, minortity women in Hollywood, besides the actresses. Like, when was the last time a minority woman was the producer/writer/director for a movie or TV show?

 

[DeadPresident]

What are the statistics of women or minority women that are qualified to be in those areas? We need way more statistical reference to know whether absence from those positions is down to discrimination.

 

[Manic]

Regarding actresses:

Has anyone else noticed how sitcoms usually pair fat men with thinner and more traditionally attractive women? Like, TV wives have to look like a catch, but TV husbands can be any old slob (and in Jim Belushi's case, he doesn't even have to be funny). And things have been this way pretty much from the beginning, because just look at The Honeymooners. It's pretty rare to see an overweight TV wife unless she's an elderly grandma-type, the wacky neighbor, or her actress is the star/creator of the show.

And when it comes to minority women, there's this feeling that they're kinda forced to compete with one another. Hollywood only likes to have a couple of "it" girls of color at a time, which is probably why we see some of the same actresses pop up in everything. I love Zoe Saldana, but she can't be the only non-white woman these days who's interested in doing sci-fi.

And as I pointed out before, I think River from Joss Whedon's Firefly/Serenity should've been played by an Asian actress. Her surname was Tam, which is a Chinese name. It took place in a version of the future where Chinese culture was pretty prominent. And what did Whedon and the other producers do? Hire a white actress. They basically pulled a David Carradine.

 

[warhorse78]

What are the statistics of women or minority women that are qualified to be in those areas? We need way more statistical reference to know whether absence from those positions is down to discrimination.

But this could also be one of those cases where the females want to get behind the scenes, but the door is shut on them immediately with regards to schooling and whatnot. I was excited about Guardians of the Galaxy having the first woman to write a script for Marvel, but then here comes the effing director and takes all of that away from her.

It just seems to me, in most cases, the woman has to be related or had previous relationships with a male counterpart to make any dent in the hollywood arena. Like Kathryn Bigelow, first and only female to ever win directing in the oscars. But would she have gotten as far as she did if she wasn't at once married to James Cameron? As for female script writers, only one I can think of on the top of my head would be Jane Espenson, and she has ties with Joss Whedon, one of the few men in hollywood who champion women as more than just love interests, mary sues or damsels in distress.

 

[chaseter]

Sexism definitely exists in Hollywood.

 

[chamber-music]

I notice a lot of poorly written female roles in films and television unfortunately.

It is amazing how large numbers of actresses just disappear after they reach 45 because there really isn't a role for them besides playing
someone's mother. You have a few older actresses like Helen Mirren, Meryl Streep, Diane Keaton, ect who are the exception to the rule.

 

[Manic]

I think there's a kind of dead zone that a lot of actresses enter around their 30's to 40's, where they're considered too old to play love interests and too young to play an old woman.

The fact that women are generally relegated to "love interest" and "maternal figure" in the first place is awful in and of itself.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Sexism definitely exists in Hollywood.

sexualization is a huge part of it, and on one hand you have the sexists trying to have their arguments against while simultaneously we have models and actresses actively and willingly being a part of the sexualization, fully realizing how it is engrained in society, culture and what not.

 

[MadVillainy]

So a movie with a largely black cast, produced by blacks, directed by a black guy, about a culture that is largely black, AND that was rated R just took #1 at the Box office with over 55 mill. (That's about how much Ant-Man made)

On top of that another movie with largely ethnic cast, directed by a Malaysian-Australian director made over 1.5 billion at the box office

So far a pretty good year for racial diversity in Hollywood . Just make good movies

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

So a movie with a largely black cast, produced by blacks, directed by a black guy, about a culture that is largely black, AND that was rated R just took #1 at the Box office with over 55 mill. (That's about how much Ant-Man made)

On top of that another movie with largely ethnic cast, directed by a Malaysian-Australian director made over 1.5 billion at the box office

So far a pretty good year for racial diversity in Hollywood . Just make good movies

you know what i've been seeing a lot lately on facebook? memes on facebook about how they're beefing up security at the theaters for showings of straight outta compton, when in the past 3 years all of the mass shootings to have happened in america were committed by white people

 

[Manic]

Countdown until black moviegoers are beaten and/or killed after police mistake smuggled food for a deadly weapon.

 

[warhorse78]

you know what i've been seeing a lot lately on facebook? memes on facebook about how they're beefing up security at the theaters for showings of straight outta compton, when in the past 3 years all of the mass shootings to have happened in america were committed by white people

I saw that too, talk about freaking stereotyping. And when I gone to see the movie with some friends, the audience was very diverse! But then again, I do live in a very multicultural city.

 

[dark_b]

So a movie with a largely black cast, produced by blacks, directed by a black guy, about a culture that is largely black, AND that was rated R just took #1 at the Box office with over 55 mill. (That's about how much Ant-Man made)

On top of that another movie with largely ethnic cast, directed by a Malaysian-Australian director made over 1.5 billion at the box office

So far a pretty good year for racial diversity in Hollywood . Just make good movies

movies about rapers dont count .

just joking. great numbers.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

movies about rappers dont count .

just joking. great numbers.

Fixed, I hope. That is one baaad spelling error lol

 

[MadVillainy]

you know what i've been seeing a lot lately on facebook? memes on facebook about how they're beefing up security at the theaters for showings of straight outta compton, when in the past 3 years all of the mass shootings to have happened in america were committed by white people

Oh yeah it was bulls***.

Beef up security in general. Don't just target a big movie with a largely black cast. There's no other way at looking at it than prejudicial and discriminatory.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Oh yeah it was bulls***.

Beef up security in general. Don't just target a big movie with a largely black cast. There's no other way at looking at it than prejudicial and discriminatory.

that's the key thing here. smfh america.

 

[Tilapia]

Racism in Hollywood. What about sexism? I mean, unless it's an actress, and 98% in that has to be pretty and fit, behind the scenes has shown little diversity when it comes to women. When was the last time a superhero movie was directed by a woman?

Or lets combine the two, minortity women in Hollywood, besides the actresses. Like, when was the last time a minority woman was the producer/writer/director for a movie or TV show?

All these things come down to market share. The bottom line is, there are no women today that can carry a 200 million dollar action tentpole by herself, except maybe Jennifer Lawrence and her franchise. Give me one other woman alive today that can do that? Be THE lead actress and carry her own franchise? Gina Carano has no personality. Rousey is committed to her craft and acting is a sort of side thing for her. Plus those women aren't necessarily 10/10's for Hollywood standards.

People want Tom Cruise, Robert Downey Jr, and the Matt Damon's of the world. They are proven names that can carry tentpoles. Until someone else breaks down that barrier, that's the way it's going to be. You aren't going to see sopranos carrying most operas over tenors. You aren't going to see the WNBA beat out NBA TV ratings. Female comedians are not going to all of a sudden dominate the market share over male comedians. The sheer number of biological limitations alone make that unrealistic.

That's why Jennifer Lawrence deserve more hype and credit than is actually given to her. She has proven she can carry a franchise at the box office. Could a Native American actress have done the same? I believe so, if the talent is other worldly, and she is modestly to very attractive. It can be done. Of course minorities and especially black women are always at a disadvantage capturing the masses. Same with Asian men. But I think talent ultimately trumps that. For these people facing discrimination/social disadvantages, it simply means they have to work all the more harder to harness that talent, as opposed to the spoiled white kids with the inside track, who have to work slightly less hard.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I was supposed to see compton tonight...but everyone bailed on me. so now I don't think i'll go to the theater to watch it.

 

[Holiday]

As a white person, I feel I gotta see it in theaters with some black folks to fully enjoy the movie. Like I did Django.

 

[warhorse78]

that's the key thing here. smfh america.

It's not just America doing knee jerk reactions to movies, I remember England having something against anything ninja, and when the TMNT started to get popular over there, they even had it renamed Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, and cut out any scenes concerning Mikey's nunchucks.

 

[terry78]

The three SOC leads did excellent work, and I am glad to see Corey Hawkins getting some roles, such as Skull Island. Jason Mitchell deserves an Oscar nod for Easy-E, and that is not me using hyperbole.