Justice League Re-cast Hal Jordan for JL movie? Yay or Nay? - Part 1

[TommyJones1945]

You did not make make yourself clear.
I all said he was a member at times,but i did not say official.He was in more then just 3 missions with them.
Those were just examples i posted.

And you don't get it. Replacing Hal a few times on some missions doesn't make him a member.

There is no doubt that GL has some hard mythology to adapt and not look stupid. The magical lantern and the constructs from the magical green ring are just outright dumb and campy ideas. WB should have treaded more carefully when adapting it to the big screen. A big head guy with mind powers and an evil cloud is not ****ing treading carefully.

It doesn't matter how much fanboys whine about it nobody cares about Hal Jordan. When GL was cast, most layman thought that the character was black. I'm not saying that you should like the fact that nobody cares about Hal Jordan but they don't.

No one needs to care about a comic book character for them to get put in more stuff or in movies. In fact, the point of making a movie is to make the audience give a crap about them so you can spin a franchise off of them. Do you think anyone outside of comic book fans give a crap about Ant man or GotG. And how does saying no one cares Hal help your argument.

And bro, this is 2014. Anyone who's still asking "Wasn't the GL black?" probably lives under a rock.

 

[Lantern Venom]

I don't like the fact that most people aren't into comics either, but it's not a reason to hate on the GA because they don't share your fondness for a fictional character. That's a lame attitude to have. You're better than that. The bottom line is that the GA's opinion on Hal is really the most relevant when it comes to Hal in live action films. They can make him a success there. You can't.

The half-baked opinions of people who think they know comic characters, but are really ignorant, are just too easy to flame. I'm really not worried about how the live-action GL movie was received. I'm still happy that GL got a flick and that some form of GL will be back in JLA. I'm more focused on Kyle coming to live action eventually, and I feel that he will. Characters that get passed down from generation to generation don't stay quiet for long.

And, for some reason, this is how I picture the way other posters see you and I when they view this thread:

 

[mace1]

And you don't get it. Replacing Hal a few times on some missions doesn't make him a member.

Wrong.

Below in bold.

The Key returns and engineers the murder of the Santa Claus scheduled to appear at an orphans' Christmas Party with Superman and Batman, thus issuing a challenge to the Justice League. John Stewart, Hal Jordan's official substitute, stands in for a temporarily incapacitated Green Lantern, as the [FONT=Verdana, Arial] JLA heroes [/FONT] enter a death-trap, a dilapidated building in a St. Louis ghetto. One by one, the [FONT=Verdana, Arial] members [/FONT]sacrifice them-selves in a gauntlet of traps, so that the others can go on to defeat their foe, first Superman, then Black Canary, Bat-man, and Green Arrow. Red Tornado and John Stewart also seem to perish, but actually all the [FONT=Verdana, Arial] members [/FONT]are saved by the intervention of the Phantom Stranger.

He was a [FONT=Verdana, Arial] member at times, just on and off back [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial]then over the years.[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial] [/FONT]

 

[mace1]

I wish they'd go back to the bald guy w/goatee look again tho

They might,but remember he is still young in this reboot.Maybe when get older again.

Oh and more thing,i post some info about his past here.

Do you think he was member of the justice league only if it was temporary etc..? or do you agree with TommyJones1945.

Maybe i am wrong about this,but i don't think so.

I was saying to him you do have to be an official member to be a member of something even if it's temporary,a substitute etc...
The above in bold clearly says the member of the jla and that included john.


He look and seem like a member to me when i read some of the comics.

 

[mace1]

Oh i read and watch some vids on youtube that denzel Washington or maybe the rock will be john stewart.
Anybody have thoughts on this?

If this is true,it will be most likely denzel.
If the rock is in it,it will be mostly likely black adam or captain marvel,or lobo,who knows.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

And you don't get it. Replacing Hal a few times on some missions doesn't make him a member.



No one needs to care about a comic book character for them to get put in more stuff or in movies. In fact, the point of making a movie is to make the audience give a crap about them so you can spin a franchise off of them. Do you think anyone outside of comic book fans give a crap about Ant man or GotG. And how does saying no one cares Hal help your argument.

And bro, this is 2014. Anyone who's still asking "Wasn't the GL black?" probably lives under a rock.

I'm not a bro.

And most people don't give a crap about comicbooks. Look at the sales figures for them. I like comicbook movies and I barely read comicbooks.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

I'm not a bro.

And most people don't give a crap about comicbooks. Look at the sales figures for them. I like comicbook movies and I barely read comicbooks.

I think that's his point. Nobody has any real reason to say x character should be replaced because they'll be only similar to their counterparts, distilled from many texts.

 

[Lord]

Hal Jordan is my favorite Green Lantern of them all, but i think that they should retire the character in movies for a while.

 

[regwec]

What character?

 

[brainchild81]

Lol!

Sorry, hating on the GA sheeple is a hobby of mine. The half-baked opinions of people who think they know comic characters, but are really ignorant, are just to easy to flame.
I'm really not worried about how the live-action GL movie was received. I'm still happy that GL got a flick and that some from of GL will be back in JLA. I'm more focused on Kyle coming to live action eventually, and I feel that he will. Characters that get passed down from generation to generation don't stay quiet for long.

And, for some reason, this is how I picture the way other posters see you and I when they view this thread:

lol I doubt it. We strongly disagree on some stuff but we stay pretty civil about it. I've had much stupider arguments with other posters here

Hating on the GA is your prerogative, but that's wasted energy IMO because it doesn't do a damn thing to change the power the GA has. I doubt the GA pretend to know a whole lot about characters. They know enough to know that they don't like them or simply ain't interested in them. It's their prerogative. It's ****ed up how comics aren't more popular but I tend not to dwell on it. At the end of the day, if I enjoy a character, that's all that really matters to me. I guess I am lucky that my favorite character is an icon.

Hal's film is one of those extremely horrible ones that the GA and comic fans can both agree was putrid. I seriously doubt Kyle will ever get his own film but he could be featured in somebody else's or a team flick.

They might,but remember he is still young in this reboot.Maybe when get older again.

Oh and more thing,i post some info about his past here.

Do you think he was member of the justice league only if it was temporary etc..? or do you agree with TommyJones1945.

Maybe i am wrong about this,but i don't think so.

I was saying to him you do have to be an official member to be a member of something even if it's temporary,a substitute etc...
The above in bold clearly says the member of the jla and that included john.


He look and seem like a member to me when i read some of the comics.

I've seen him listed as a member. That's good enough for me

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

What character?

Exactly.

 

[Lord]

What character?

What do you mean?

 

[TommyJones1945]

They might,but remember he is still young in this reboot.Maybe when get older again.

Oh and more thing,i post some info about his past here.

Do you think he was member of the justice league only if it was temporary etc..? or do you agree with TommyJones1945.

Maybe i am wrong about this,but i don't think so.

I was saying to him you do have to be an official member to be a member of something even if it's temporary,a substitute etc...
The above in bold clearly says the member of the jla and that included john.


He look and seem like a member to me when i read some of the comics.

He was a replacement. He helped on a few missions and then when Hal returned he went on his own business. He was never an official member like say Kyle was on JLA.

I probably won't convince so I think I'll just drop it. Though if you want to know he did become a full-fledged member during Geoff Johns' run.

I'm not a bro.

And most people don't give a crap about comicbooks. Look at the sales figures for them. I like comicbook movies and I barely read comicbooks.

Lol. Sorry for calling you a guy.

I never said most people gave a crap about comic books. I just said most people don't have to be knowledgeable/loving of a superhero before they are put in blockbuster movies.

If DC/Marvel have a fairly popular character(comic wise I should add) and they feel he/she can make movies that will make money, then they'll do it. If there was the notion, that superheroes needed to have massive followings before they appeared on the big screen then movies like IM, Thor, Cap America, Ant man etc will never have been made.

I hope you understand, cus its pretty inane arguing this.

 

[mace1]

He was a replacement. He helped on a few missions and then when Hal returned he went on his own business. He was never an official member like say Kyle was on JLA.

I probably won't convince so I think I'll just drop it.

Though if you want to know he did become a full-fledged member during Geoff Johns' run.

Though if you want to know he did become a full-fledged member during Geoff Johns' run.

I have some of the comics i know, but he was member before Geoff Johns run and earlier like i mention before.It does not matter if he was full-fledged or not.

By the way he filled in for Kyle for over year starting in somewhere early 2003 to late 2004 but kyle never came back to normal justice league duties anyway.
John became more of a normal OR official or full-fledged member in 2003.



2003

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/JLA_Vol_1_76



2003

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/JLA:_Rules_of_Engagement



Darkstars and beyond

Following "Emerald Twilight" and the collapse of the Green Lantern Corps, Stewart was recruited by the Controllers to command the Darkstars, another interstellar peacekeeping force. Using the new resources at his command, Stewart evacuated the Mosaic cities from Oa prior to its destruction and served the Darkstars with distinction until he was crippled in battle with Grayven on the planet Rann. Stewart eventually regained the use of his legs as a parting gift from Jordan before Jordan sacrificed himself to destroy the Sun-Eater during the 1996 "The Final Night" storyline. As a result of Jordan healing him, he began to exhibit random bursts of energy from his hands that he was able to discharge on three different occasions. Though he had initially refused a new Green Lantern ring months prior, he eventually accepted a new one entrusted to Kyle Rayner by a time-lost Hal Jordan, and joined the Justice League to fill in for Rayner as he took an extended leave of absence from Earth.(Green Lantern vol. 3 155-156)

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Lantern_Vol_3_155

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Green_Lantern_Vol_3_156



It says here he was official or full-fledged member before 2004,BEFORE Geoff Johns.


LIST OF MEMBERS AND WHEN THEY JOIN OR BECAME FULL TIME MEMBERS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Justice_League_members

Note- They have the date wrong.It should have said 2003 inside i believe.Oh well.

I probably won't convince so I think I'll just drop it.

I agree,now let's move on.

 

[mace1]

i've seen him listed as a member. That's good enough for me

I agree.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Hal Jordan is my favorite Green Lantern of them all, but i think that they should retire the character in movies for a while.

Arrow needs a Lantern, although I'm torn as to which one. Hal has the most history with Oliver, but since John *might* be in the JL movie, raising his name/image recognition will be necessary if that happens.

It's time for some new John figures, too. Look no further than the fate of the GL 'toon for proof that merch is important.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Here is a great video that provides a solid synopsis of the origins and important arcs of Scott, Jordan, Gardner, Stewart, and Rayner. It's almost 10 minutes long, but if you don't know the stories, 10 minutes is a small sacrifice.

Enjoy:

 

[Wildcard]

I would like to see Reynolds back as the Green Lantern because I think he has a lot of potential to be more than just the "funny guy" under the right writing & direction. But, at the same time it would be hard to connect Green Lantern to Man of Steel. The only way would be to backtrack & say the events of GL happened after those in MoS, which I know they won't do.

At the end of the day, I'd probably just vote for a recast to keep things less confusing. Let's get Reynolds in as Deadpool, something that should've happened years ago.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

no. keep ryan renolds.

 

[Derrick9592]

Nah, I don't think Reynolds is going to come back after what happened. Maybe if the film didn't do horribly, had a better script, story, and dialogue, then yeah he'd be up for it. My best bet is either they're either going to be recast Hal or replace him with John Stewart.

 

[Wildcard]

Nah, I don't think Reynolds is going to come back after what happened. Maybe if the film didn't do horribly, had a better script, story, and dialogue, then yeah he'd be up for it. My best bet is either they're either going to be recast Hal or replace him with John Stewart.

Seems like the most likely outcome at this point, especially considering the rumors about Dwayne Johnson being up for the role. Any chances of Reynolds coming back are slim, both due to his own unwillingness & the huge flop that was Green Lantern.

 

[mace1]

If it's john stewart,and if the choice was either Dwayne Johnson or denzel Washington,i would be prefer denzel Washington first.

 

[DCnightwing23]

I definitely think they are steering towards John Stewart. Idk if i like the rumored Dwayne Johnson for the role, but he's a big name with tons of history w/ WB.

But, if they were to stick w/ Hal Jordan, WB has recently and more consistently started working w/ another big name actor who imo draws a larger audience and more star power. Tom Cruise. I know i might get flamed for this suggestion but while at 51 years of age. Tom Cruise is a proven actor. Known for his action movies, and the fact that he remains fit and almost if not always does his own stunts. He would also bring the more mature wit and charm as well as charisma that Reynolds simply couldn't deliver as Reynolds most always comes off as goofy or silly. And Cruise simply looks like the character.

 

[Walt Bickle]

If they bother with a GL film they need to reboot it and fix everything that's wrong with the character.
This is what I'd do

call the movie HAL.

Have the corps merely called THE GREEN CORPS.

The Green corps have to train him learn how to use his thoughts better so that a big boobed naked green woman doesn't pop out of his ring by accident when going for a weapon or something.

Make the energy lantern for the rings not be a lantern, make it a green ball of energy.

have the world be purged into darkness by the villain.
Hal makes a giant green lantern around him at the end in front of the public before he saves everyone.
the media announce him as the green lantern at the end.

have little school girls skipping at the end singing the green lantern's light rhyme.

close up of him smiling in space with green glow around him. boom

Jake Gynhenal as Hal jordan.
and get rid of the old miners lantern logo on his chest completely.
give him green glowing eyes instead of a domino mask.
have his suit black with green under tones.

 

[Llama_Shepherd]

Yeah, no.