Resistance: The Fall of Man (threads Merged)

[Fenrir]

Again, we're in no position to comment on what games are 'obviously superior', or obviously not superior, to Resistance. Until you've played the game, you've no right to claim other games are 'obviously superior'. Aside from graphics, you have little else to base a comment like that on.

OK, so we're talking about graphics mostly. That too because Liz can't stop with his "OMG BEST GRAPHICS EVA" tirade. See it's the nature of any conversation - exaggerated claims are often the ones most likely to recieve negative feedback and/or be shot down. That's exactly what's happening here.

And I do wish we'd stop talking about bloody muzzle flashes.

"OMFGZZZZ!!! Resistance doesn't have muzzle flashes, and other games do. Resistance totally sucks. Resistance sucks ass. No muzzle flashes. HAHAHA!!"

I mean come on. Muzzle flashes. Who gives a ****?

It's a freakin' FPS action game is it not? Muzzle flash is what you see on-screen at least half of the time. It's only obvious that it should look good. Also, in this argument, muzzle flashes are also a small indicator of just how real-time and competent the game's lighting model is. Judging from the discussions about the fire and the muzzle flash, all I can say is, it's still nowhere near as good as it is supposed to be as a next-gen title.

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

New preview, lot of Info.

http://ps3.gamedaily.com/game/features/?gameid=5258&id=397&t=preview&p=2&p=3&p=4&p=5&page=6

 

[블라스]

ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES, TAKING IT FROM BEHIND?

She was! Not me

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

^I believe you Gammy

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Official Site is updated with interesting information, Insomniac has done their homework

www.rfomps3.com

 

[Conker]

edit: double post

 

[Conker]

I've been reading this thread, and I've found that there's actually a person on the earth that thinks that the Sun shoots out magical light eating particles that make it impossible for muzzle flash to appear during the day....amazing. I've said it before, but looking at the kind of person who is hyped for this game says a lot about what kind of game this is

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

^Wow that was real intelligent

Get some new material

Dude I know somebody who shoots guns a little too much for his own sake. He's shot guns in the day and night time. You guys are just to used to unrealism that you don't know what’s fact and what’s fiction.

I mean seriously a muzzle flash is very dim light source and it goes very fast, its not going to illuminate a whole area like all of you believe. Give me a picture in real life not a stupid reference to another game that’s not shooting for realism like Resistance Fall of Man.

Face it, Resistance Fall of Man is shaping up to be a title that will most likely be superb. I am able to make that statement because so far anyone who has actually played the game are absolutely floored with it.

Saying that its able to compare to Halo, that it is Halo Sony has been looking for, that its one of the most impressive next gen launch titles to this day. That the realism in the game is so natural its scary, like the lighting according to IGN and their opinion mean more than any of ours because they actually know what to look in a game.

Not make stupid assumptions based on video games that don't strive for realism and you're so accustomed to seeing an outlandish representation of the real world.

 

[Conker]

Would you like me to find pictures of guns firing in Iraq (ie, a desert, where one could find the most sun exposure on earth), and show their muzzle flash being clearly visible, in the brightest day? I mean, step back and look at yourself, you are now questioning fundamental laws of science to defend the visuals of this video game. You are actually trusting Resistance on matters of "how light works" over your own eyes, which see it in action every day. I mean, my god, not even you can believe this crap by now, no way. Muzzle flash is visible in the daylight, period


EDIT: I'll do better than a picture, here is a movie. Daylight. Guns firing (yes, I know they're not firing real bullets, they're firing blanks, same effect). Muzzle flash. You lose.

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Hey i'm going to have my gun psycho friend wrap this up for me.

ok now the muzzle flash of a rifle in a desert is visable but not as visable as it is in almost all games, IT WILL NOT CAST LIGHT ON OBJECTS AROUND IT

i shoot a M4 carbine every weekend to every other weekend on my families farm, i also on average take 1 gun of the 7x62 caliber (.308) and its muzzle flash is barely noticeable, also i commonly shoot a 30~06 M1 grand or the springfeild 05 and neither of them have a distinct muzzle flash that is visible in the daylight, i probably have shot more real guns in the last 6 months than you have in your life time.

geocities.com/cra2kkill/Dead_mutha_****a.jpg

Be Jealous.

http://www.maj.com/gallery/JitsuX/Gifs/truckkick.gif

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Oh and DTR I would like to see these so called Iraq Pictures you have.

 

[Conker]

Hahaha, your gun psycho friend (who's obviously you, who are you kidding? ) is clearly wrong. I can post entire photobooks, 20 hours of footage of guns firing in the daylight, etc, all proving you wrong. When guns fire big auto bursts, there is a flash, even in the daytime. Disputing that is just hilarious, you've reached a new low in your fanatical support for this game. "Muzzle flash in Resistance seem a bit off? That's ok, that's not a graphical screw up, it's just that muzzle flash doesn't exist", hahahah

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

Hey Conker do you have a ventrrilo? Have you ever shot a gun in real life? And no i'm not portraying this gun psycho friend as a show for you guys, I don't know a thing about guns. However this kid does and you know what I have a feeling you're thinking oh S**T i'm messing with the wrong person

Enlighten me with this so called footage you have DTR, I bet my friend will tear you a new one.

 

[Mr. Credible]

Hahaha, your gun psycho friend (who's obviously you, who are you kidding? ) is clearly wrong. I can post entire photobooks, 20 hours of footage of guns firing in the daylight, etc, all proving you wrong. When guns fire big auto bursts, there is a flash, even in the daytime. Disputing that is just hilarious, you've reached a new low in your fanatical support for this game. "Muzzle flash in Resistance seem a bit off? That's ok, that's not a graphical screw up, it's just that muzzle flash doesn't exist", hahahah

great... post the pics.

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

^Exactly I'll do him one better by showing him this gun being fired in a shadow during the day, where is the muzzle flash?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAfZlxUIJzw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ilSo3Wqf_o&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSR2QUYOAs&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5r5H235vWY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qH4QJzidAs&mode=related&search=

Thats 5 for me 0 for you

If anything Resistance: Fall of Man is too bright, however Insomniac said the coloring was off when the transferring of the video so the muzzle flash appears brighter than intended, meaning its going to be dark and dim.

All credit goes to my gun crazed friend, who knew his obession for destruction would help me win an argument

Hey Conker http://www.maj.com/gallery/JitsuX/Gifs/lol2.gif

 

[Mr. Credible]

just because every other game shows light reflecting off of the muzzle in day time, doesn't mean that's what happens in real life... that's like saying everyone who jumps at a window in real life will crash through it, instead of just bouncing off.

 

[Conker]

Yeah..."your friend"...sure


As for "so called footage", are you kidding me? I already posted it, with an obviously labelled link, how dense can you be? Do I need to take a screenshot of the post and draw you a road map in MS Paint? Explain why everyone seems to think there should be muzzle flash but you, and why given your history of mental inferiority it's a safe bet that it's you that's wrong and not everyone else? Should I post pictures of Resistance showing that muzzle flash, even during the day time, meaning that you have no reason to be arguing with me in the first place? What more do I need to do to get this idea inside of those last few remaining brain cells?

EDIT: I see the entire "examples of what kind of person still supports sony after all the **** up's" brigade is here.

Pictures?

That's what happens when you fire a weapon on automatic, the kind of fire we've been discussing since that's is what the guns are firing on in Resistance, and that is what happens when you don't fire flash supressor-equiped guns at a firing range

 

[Conker]

Here's another:

Is your "friend" going to tear me a new one Lizard? Is he? Please, tell "your friend" to try and tear me a new one

 

[Mentok]

ON YOUR HANDS AND KNEES, TAKING IT FROM BEHIND?

DAMN! I leave then the talk about anal sex starts

 

[Mr. Credible]

Here's another:

Is your "friend" going to tear me a new one Lizard? Is he? Please, tell "your friend" to try and tear me a new one

um.... yeah... you both suck and lose... where's the flash in this or your last pic, buddy? i don't see them. maybe the faintest little hint, but that can be seen in resistance's videos, too.

and take a look at liz's youtube vids. not a single visible flash, under a damn roof, no less. and that's REAL LIFE, not some programmer's interpretation of it.

way to go.

 

[Conker]

um.... yeah... you both suck and lose... where's the flash in this or your last pic, buddy? i don't see them. maybe the faintest little hint.

You've got to be kidding me. No one is this stupid, absolutely no one.

http://ultimak.com/gallery/MattShooting.jpg

You honest to god don't see a flash there? Absolutely ****ing amazing. If I were Insomniac, I would be embarrassed to have people like supporting me


EDIT: Here's a visual aid to help you along.

 

[Mentok]

^I know Half Life 2 has nothing what people are talking about, Muzzle flashes that light up the area around them yeah right.

LIZARD...

1- I have been posting pictures of HALF LIFE 2 showing how it uses ambient lighting so dont even try to say it dosent have it.
2- Dont talk about games you havent played.

Also dude IGN said this is by far the best Next-Gen game that has the all around package.

Wow, this random dude at IGN sure has alot to say

Right out of the box amazing single player and amazing multiplayer, they are saying this game is just amazing in every aspect.

Something that has failed to be shown in both screens and videos.

I am yet too see this AMAZING ANIMATION that the developers are poncing on about.

The videos also lack the AMAZING ADVANCED A.I.

How can you dismiss that?

Because there is no physical evedence of any of that.

Whatever I’m just going to wait and see how Resistance turns out,

BULL****. You made your mind up about this game a long time ago.

but I bet you guys are still going to bash this game even if it clearly can surpass Halo.

Its a very bad looking game. It seems to bring nothing new to the genre. Thats why it is bashed. Another peoblem is people like you calling it a HALO KILLER.

Its funny that SONY fans are all so scared of a game that very old now.

I think everyone on this board who bashes Resistance is just intimidated by the game, either because they aren't going to get to play it or because they don't want to like it but subconsciously they do.

Yeah, nice logic there. It cant have anything to do with the fact that the game looks horrible.

I dont blame you though... You're a die hard SONY FAN. Your last console didnt even have the power to play FARCRY. I can understand why RESISTANCE gets you so excited.

 

[THE LIZARD#1]

this is his "GUN CRAISED FREIND" or what ever he has been refering me as, ok now i have fired my share of full automatic weapons, most have no kick, nor a large muzzle flash, also any type of supressor is illeadgal in most US states and is large and extreemly noticable, not to mention most ranges dont allow supresors. and explain how and why a .50 berret would have a supressor with a max efective range of 1.3 miles

also an ak fires a 7x62 round witch has a small kick but as i have stated barely any flash, most rifles have almost no flash due to the point the the pyrodex burns, or explodes in the chamber of the gun, way before the muzzle. there for you normaly dont dont see a flash unless you are in a low light condition such as night. now a handgun witch has a shorter barel and a chamber closer to the muzzle allows you to see the muzzle flash as a brighter burst of light.

lol in the time it took my freind to edit that pic and type this post and all you have come up with are two pictures. That were also completley proven false by my friend. DRT I think you need to go back to High School and learn how to debate with someone:

Mentok, I have played Half-Life 2 and it is not doing anything you guys have been saying. You shoot the gun and theres a flash just like Resistance, however Half-Life might be a little darker but like I said the video color was not transferred with the movie so it sort of looks weird.

 

[Mr. Credible]

You've got to be kidding me. No one is this stupid, absolutely no one.

http://ultimak.com/gallery/MattShooting.jpg

You honest to god don't see a flash there? Absolutely ****ing amazing. If I were Insomniac, I would be embarrassed to have people like supporting me

i see a flash coming off of that gentleman's gun... sure, but i don't think that's what we're talking about... has his shirt somehow changed color signifigantly? um... no. has the ground around him? nope. his hand? again... no.

all very suddle changes, barely noticable, because he's in the DAYTIME!!! he's got what is basically a big ass fire 2 feet in front of him, and it barely shows, because the light around him is just as bright.

damnit, you're dumb and stubborn.

 

[Conker]

http://www.geocities.com/cra2kkill/UR_RETARDED.JPG

this is his "GUN CRAISED FREIND" or what ever he has been refering me as, ok now i have fired my share of full automatic weapons, most have no kick, nor a large muzzle flash, also any type of supressor is illeadgal in most US states and is large and extreemly noticable, not to mention most ranges dont allow supresors. and explain how and why a .50 berret would have a supressor with a max efective range of 1.3 miles

also an ak fires a 7x62 round witch has a small kick but as i have stated barely any flash, most rifles have almost no flash due to the point the the pyrodex burns, or explodes in the chamber of the gun, way before the muzzle. there for you normaly dont dont see a flash unless you are in a low light condition such as night. now a handgun witch has a shorter barel and a chamber closer to the muzzle allows you to see the muzzle flash as a brighter burst of light.

Haha, so that's not "muzzle flash", that's just magic fire that occasionally comes up out of the ground?

It's funny, the site I got that pic from, Ultimak, is run by a gun fanatic, and he cleary says, and I quote, "No, it's not a flamethrower. This was captured from a low resolution video, and shows the intense muzzle flash coming from a short barrel AK firing Russian 7.62 x 39 mm ammunition."
Can you see the important part? I tried to make it stand out. But I'm sure he, two photos, and common sense are all wrong, and that you and your imaginary gun friend are right