Homecoming Robert Downey Jr IS Tony Stark / Iron Man

[Shikamaru]

Who cares what else he makes for him? Spider tracers? Sure, bring it on. The kid can't even afford a computer, let alone poker chip sized spider shaped GPS devices. Who's to say Peter won't come up with the idea and Tony will help him build it? Someone has to pay for all this high tech stuff. It's not going to be Peter that's for sure.

Right... Remember when everyone was crying because they thought Tony made his web shooters? "Omg they're missing out on showcasing Peter's intelligence! Why would they do that?! Tony might as well give him his powers too! "

He made his own web shooters, he designed his own "first" costume with his own goggles to help him concentrate. He has an old crappy computer, he picks up old thrown away electronics for spare parts and what not. What else do you want man? Big deal, Tony gave him an upgrade with his suit and gave him the spider signal. Are we really going to cry about this now too? Wasn't the argument back in the day of Raimi and Webb that the costumes looked way too professional for a kid to make on his own?

We got the costume that a 15 year old would probably come up with. Then we got the high end "hero" costume because Tony paid for it/made it. It's perfect, yet we still find ways to complain... Spoiled us Spider-Man fans are, spoiled rotten.

Peter's intelligence is on full display in this movie whether you want to admit it or not. People are just nitpicking now. "I want my Peter Parker to come up with EVERYTHING on his own! Tony made his spider signal? OMG they ruined the character! He should be making them on his own! "

Always something to b***h about in here. They're doing everything right so far with Spidey as far as I'm concerned. Yet some people always find ways to bring it down, oh well.

First, regarding "who cares what else he makes for him", I have a hard time believing you (or most Spider-Man fans for that matter) would truly be ok with that. Forget what Marvel will do, you've now gone into hypothetical territory. You'd really be ok with Tony essentially making "whatever else" for him? I can't say I can begin to even understand that.

Second, Peter's always been very much like Tony when it comes to making inventions out of cheap materials. This is the same universe where we had two films about how Tony could take garbage and make something advanced out of it. "Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!" ring a bell? Not to mention half of IM3 was him going out making weapons out of things from the dollar store. If Tony can do it, why can't Peter? By the own rules of the universe Feige established, Peter should be able to do it. The fact he doesn't immediately dumbs him down.

Third, there's a strong possibility Tony did give him a better webshooter. That's not something that can be ruled out. Peter discovered the spider signal entirely by accident. It begs the question of what Tony originally told him the new webshooter was for when he gave it to him.

Fourth, no one said anything about Tony making the costume. Not me, not PeterBenParker, not anyone else who posted here. A costume also isn't a gadget. That's another strawman on your part.

Fifth, it's not just about Peter's intelligence. It also hinders the creativity aspect - Peter couldn't at least come up with the idea of the spider signal? - and the teen empowerment aspect, the latter being the aspect that made Spider-Man as popular as he is today to teens who felt oppressed by society and by the state.

I'd bet money many people would flip **** if Sony did all this. But hey, Spidey's now in the MCU so s'all good brah, right?

 

[PeterBenParker]

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I'm not saying going with Tony was a mistake but Peter Parker even though he is a genius makes mistakes. That is one of the reasons he is such a relatable character.
If he is such a genius why did he let the thief that killed uncle Ben get away?

'Cause he realized Uncle Ben wouldn't want for him. Revenge is never the answer and Peter realized that in the nick-of-time. Also something something great power..

Nothing really to do with his smarts there as it was more so respecting his fallen beloved Uncle.

Also you saw what happened in the movie and you know pretty much everything that happened in the story, but Peter doesn't.

So that makes it fine that they had Peter just accept whatever Tony told him (which was proven to be false in the story since you used that example) simply because it's Tony Stark at your door and he twisted Peter's mindset into matching up with his own agenda? Eh.

"What else did Stark tell you?"
"That you're wrong, you think you're right and that makes you dangerous."

Again, didn't work for me.

 

[Poppy]

Shikamaru You're making excellent points, I agree with everything you're saying.

Maybe this decision was a way for the MCU to put the spotlight on their favorite cash cow Tony Stark, at this expense of Peter's character.

If we see Peter in Homecoming, geeking out over how awesome Tony's spidey spignal is I'm gonna loose it .

 

[Dm2048]

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'Cause he realized Uncle Ben wouldn't want for him. Revenge is never the answer and Peter realized that in the nick-of-time. Also something something great power..

Nothing really to do with his smarts there as it was more so respecting his fallen beloved Uncle.



So that makes it fine that they had Peter just accept whatever Tony told him (which was proven to be false in the story since you used that example) simply because it's Tony Stark at your door and he twisted Peter's mindset into matching up with his own agenda? Eh.

"What else did Stark tell you?"
"That you're wrong, you think you're right and that makes you dangerous."

Again, didn't work for me.

Spoiler

I meant the first time he let the thief go which eventually caused uncle Ben to get killed.

I saw Feige say in an interview "His presence in Civil War was meant to be the counterpoint. The other heroes have a lot of history together. They have a lot of angst, they have a lot of geopolitical issues that they’re dealing with, and it’s heavy. This kid basically feels like he hit the jackpot. The most famous man in the world, Tony Stark, asks him to go to Germany and participate with the Avengers and he loves every minute of it. That’s fun. That’s who Spider-Man is, and we can and will do much more of this in Spider-Man: Homecoming."

If that didn't work out for you that's your opinion man, I hope you will like Homecoming!

 

[guyisnotcool]

Would anyone else prefer if Cap was in the movie, or at least both of them? Cap is Spideys hero, not iron man, at least in the comics/cartoons

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Because of the way the movie ends it wouldn't a whole lot of sense.

Plus Tony seems like a natural mentor to Peter in this universe.

 

[harryoscop]

I have a feeling that this is going to be a fight for the heart and soul of the character.

 

[harryoscop]

Shikamaru You're making excellent points, I agree with everything you're saying.

Maybe this decision was a way for the MCU to put the spotlight on their favorite cash cow Tony Stark, at this expense of Peter's character.

If we see Peter in Homecoming, geeking out over how awesome Tony's spidey spignal is I'm gonna loose it .

I don't see how Feige is okay with this, especially considering how big Spidey fans they are. The fact of the matter is, Spidey SHOULD have been Team Cap. I think a Stark-manufactured Spider-Man was all Sony's idea tbh.

 

[guyisnotcool]

I don't see how Feige is okay with this, especially considering how big Spidey fans they are. The fact of the matter is, Spidey SHOULD have been Team Cap. I think a Stark-manufactured Spider-Man was all Sony's idea tbh.

I agree with you but Team Cap didn't come off as bad or evil.

 

[BatsDC]

First, regarding "who cares what else he makes for him", I have a hard time believing you (or most Spider-Man fans for that matter) would truly be ok with that. Forget what Marvel will do, you've now gone into hypothetical territory. You'd really be ok with Tony essentially making "whatever else" for him? I can't say I can begin to even understand that.
Second, Peter's always been very much like Tony when it comes to making inventions out of cheap materials. This is the same universe where we had two films about how Tony could take garbage and make something advanced out of it. "Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!" ring a bell? Not to mention half of IM3 was him going out making weapons out of things from the dollar store. If Tony can do it, why can't Peter? By the own rules of the universe Feige established, Peter should be able to do it. The fact he doesn't immediately dumbs him down.

Yeah, Tony made basic stuff with scraps. Like the crappy first Iron Man suit, or the gadgets and stuff in IM3. Which is exactly what Peter did too. He made basic webshooters. He made basic goggles. Who knows what else he's done.

All Stark did was upgrade them - because Peter doesn't have the same resources. In the same way Stark couldn't upgrade the Mark 1 suit until he was back in his lab with his resources. What you've stated about Tony being able to do, Peter does also.

Third, there's a strong possibility Tony did give him a better webshooter. That's not something that can be ruled out. Peter discovered the spider signal entirely by accident. It begs the question of what Tony originally told him the new webshooter was for when he gave it to him.

You just moaned about hypotheticals... And now you too are talking about hypotheticals, man.

Fifth, it's not just about Peter's intelligence. It also hinders the creativity aspect - Peter couldn't at least come up with the idea of the spider signal? - and the teen empowerment aspect, the latter being the aspect that made Spider-Man as popular as he is today to teens who felt oppressed by society and by the state.

Why would he have come up with it in the context of this universe? All we've seen him do so far is stop car crashes and such.

I'd bet money many people would flip **** if Sony did all this. But hey, Spidey's now in the MCU so s'all good brah, right?

 

[PeterBenParker]

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I meant the first time he let the thief go which eventually caused uncle Ben to get killed.

Ahh, well that had more to do with the heat of the moment and frustration of being ripped off I think.

I saw Feige say in an interview "His presence in Civil War was meant to be the counterpoint. The other heroes have a lot of history together. They have a lot of angst, they have a lot of geopolitical issues that they’re dealing with, and it’s heavy. This kid basically feels like he hit the jackpot. The most famous man in the world, Tony Stark, asks him to go to Germany and participate with the Avengers and he loves every minute of it. That’s fun. That’s who Spider-Man is, and we can and will do much more of this in Spider-Man: Homecoming."

If that didn't work out for you that's your opinion man, I hope you will like Homecoming!

Spoiler

Appreciate it, bud. I did enjoy Peter/Spidey overall, I just didn't enjoy him as much as I initially wanted to which bums me out 'cause he's my favorite superhero (as given by my user).

I think Homecoming will at least put me at ease in some regards 'cause there's more time to warm up to this new take.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

I don't see how Feige is okay with this, especially considering how big Spidey fans they are. The fact of the matter is, Spidey SHOULD have been Team Cap. I think a Stark-manufactured Spider-Man was all Sony's idea tbh.

I really doubt it considering they have creative control over their own movies (not to mention even the solo). Within the context of the movie it makes no sense for spidey to have been team cap either.

 

[harryoscop]

While PBP and Shikamaru raise some good points, you gotta remember Peter is still a rookie and hasn't come into his own yet. Remember, this Spider-Man trilogy central theme is going to be about "growing up and becoming an adult, taking responsibilty" we're going to see Peter grow up throughout these movies, it make sense that he start out really naive and gullible.

 

[PeterBenParker]

While PBP and Shikamaru raise some good points, you gotta remember Peter is still a rookie and hasn't come into his own yet. Remember, this Spider-Man trilogy central theme is going to be about "growing up and becoming an adult, taking responsibilty" we're going to see Peter grow up throughout these movies, it make sense that he start out really naive and gullible.

Perhaps, but the defining moment of Peter's journey as Spider-Man has always been Uncle Ben and how a kid was thrown into an adult world and had to sink or swim. Anything other than that (like Tony mentoring Peter in a similar fashion to the USM cartoon with Fury/Peter/SHIELD) is a no bueno for me.

I'm fully expecting 'em to take elements from said cartoon, as they already did with [BLACKOUT]Peter's new webshooter and how it has multi-functions[/BLACKOUT] and some design choices of the costume but I don't want the core of the character to be lost (like it is in the show). That is my biggest fear going forward with this new series.

If Homecoming can at least give us a Peter who begins to question things and think for himself rather than just agree, I'll probably be more okay on this journey to adulthood.

 

[Sevprince]

I agree with the folks who believe Tony Stank being so involved in Spiderman's character/movie hinders the character's growth and individuality.

 

[JOE]

First, regarding "who cares what else he makes for him", I have a hard time believing you (or most Spider-Man fans for that matter) would truly be ok with that. Forget what Marvel will do, you've now gone into hypothetical territory. You'd really be ok with Tony essentially making "whatever else" for him? I can't say I can begin to even understand that.

Second, Peter's always been very much like Tony when it comes to making inventions out of cheap materials. This is the same universe where we had two films about how Tony could take garbage and make something advanced out of it. "Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!" ring a bell? Not to mention half of IM3 was him going out making weapons out of things from the dollar store. If Tony can do it, why can't Peter? By the own rules of the universe Feige established, Peter should be able to do it. The fact he doesn't immediately dumbs him down.

Third, there's a strong possibility Tony did give him a better webshooter. That's not something that can be ruled out. Peter discovered the spider signal entirely by accident. It begs the question of what Tony originally told him the new webshooter was for when he gave it to him.

Fourth, no one said anything about Tony making the costume. Not me, not PeterBenParker, not anyone else who posted here. A costume also isn't a gadget. That's another strawman on your part.

Fifth, it's not just about Peter's intelligence. It also hinders the creativity aspect - Peter couldn't at least come up with the idea of the spider signal? - and the teen empowerment aspect, the latter being the aspect that made Spider-Man as popular as he is today to teens who felt oppressed by society and by the state.

I'd bet money many people would flip **** if Sony did all this. But hey, Spidey's now in the MCU so s'all good brah, right?

I'd absolutely be okay with that. What's left for him to make? Spider-Man has gadgets, but not as many as other heroes. His most important gadget is his web shooter which he created on his own. Tony was even impressed with how he managed to compress his webbing. Then theres spider tracers, his utility belt (which I think is already taken care of), his camera? Why does this detract so much from the character?

They showed Peter collecting scrap electronics in the movie when he first enters his apartment, so that covers that for you.

His web shooter worked the same in the YouTube clip and in Peter's bedroom as it did in the airport scene as far as I saw. Was there anything noticeable about it besides the spider-signal that I missed? Why is there a strong possibility he enhanced the web shooting functionality? Or is that just assuming?

The costume is integrated with the web shooters from what I can see. Not to mention his lenses as well. I classify it as that because it's more high tech than a onesie.

As far as creativity goes, the fact that he didn't come up with the spider-signal doesn't bother me in the slightest. It comes nowhere close to as high tech as the web shooters are and how important they are to Spider-Man. If that bothers you that Peter didn't come up with the concept then I don't know what to tell you. Sorry that he's "dumbed down".

It's not about him being in the MCU, it's about the way Peter was portrayed in those 5 minutes. I felt as though they did an excellent job. The audience knows what they need to know. They know Peter is intelligent, they also know he's creative. Do you honestly think there's a demographic of people out there who saw the post credit scene and thought "Wow, Peter couldn't have come up with the spider-signal on his own? I guess he's not the creative genius we all grew up with in the comics..." Give me a break man. The GA loves him and his relationship with Stark.

I understand this might be frustrating for you if you feel this strongly about those aspects of Peter. I feel bad for you, because it looks like they're going in a direction you won't like with the inclusion of RDJ in Homecoming. I feel as though he's going to have a huge influence on Peter over the years, I'm actually looking forward to it. The positive side is that I don't think there are many who feel as strongly about these arguments as you do. I love what they're doing, and I can get over Stark assisting with some of his gadgets. Pros and cons to everything, however, the pros outweigh the cons with this Spidey by a landslide.

 

[JOE]

I don't see how Feige is okay with this, especially considering how big Spidey fans they are. The fact of the matter is, Spidey SHOULD have been Team Cap. I think a Stark-manufactured Spider-Man was all Sony's idea tbh.

The fact that they probably knew Cap's team would be incarcerated at the end of the movie might have had something to do with it. Considering Peter's the only one with a "secret identity". Plus, he had school. He couldn't be in jail.

 

[Thorne]

Seeing RDJ on screen with Tom Holland and Marisa Tomei in Civil War I can see why they wanted to continue with that. From what's out there this was not the original plan, but they had such great chemistry together that Marvel wants to take advantage. So long as Tony Stark does not dominate Spider-Man's film I look forward to seeing more of those great interactions.

 

[harryoscop]

I'd absolutely be okay with that. What's left for him to make? Spider-Man has gadgets, but not as many as other heroes. His most important gadget is his web shooter which he created on his own. Tony was even impressed with how he managed to compress his webbing. Then theres spider tracers, his utility belt (which I think is already taken care of), his camera? Why does this detract so much from the character?

They showed Peter collecting scrap electronics in the movie when he first enters his apartment, so that covers that for you.

His web shooter worked the same in the YouTube clip and in Peter's bedroom as it did in the airport scene as far as I saw. Was there anything noticeable about it besides the spider-signal that I missed? Why is there a strong possibility he enhanced the web shooting functionality? Or is that just assuming?

The costume is integrated with the web shooters from what I can see. Not to mention his lenses as well. I classify it as that because it's more high tech than a onesie.

As far as creativity goes, the fact that he didn't come up with the spider-signal doesn't bother me in the slightest. It comes nowhere close to as high tech as the web shooters are and how important they are to Spider-Man. If that bothers you that Peter didn't come up with the concept then I don't know what to tell you. Sorry that he's "dumbed down".

It's not about him being in the MCU, it's about the way Peter was portrayed in those 5 minutes. I felt as though they did an excellent job. The audience knows what they need to know. They know Peter is intelligent, they also know he's creative. Do you honestly think there's a demographic of people out there who saw the post credit scene and thought "Wow, Peter couldn't have come up with the spider-signal on his own? I guess he's not the creative genius we all grew up with in the comics..." Give me a break man. The GA loves him and his relationship with Stark.

I understand this might be frustrating for you if you feel this strongly about those aspects of Peter. I feel bad for you, because it looks like they're going in a direction you won't like with the inclusion of RDJ in Homecoming. I feel as though he's going to have a huge influence on Peter over the years, I'm actually looking forward to it. The positive side is that I don't think there are many who feel as strongly about these arguments as you do. I love what they're doing, and I can get over Stark assisting with some of his gadgets. Pros and cons to everything, however, the pros outweigh the cons with this Spidey by a landslide.

A huge influence? um.. What? You're okay with Marvel turning Peter into Tony Stark jr? Look, I'm looking foward to seeing Peter and Tony again in Homecoming as friends because I liked their scene in Civil War, but I don't want him dating Aunt May, helping Spider-Man defeat his villains or having a "huge influence" on Peter over the years. If ANYTHING, I'd rather Cap have a huge influence on Peter because his morals are a lot closer to Peter's than Tony.


I'm really hoping Cap is in Homecoming now because I don't want Stark getting into Peter's head and turning him into a mini-version of himself. Peter in the end needs to become his own man not a subsidiary of Tony Stark.

And for the record, the GA could get on board with ANYTHING as long it's sold the right way, but it's Marvel's job to respect the source material, respect the fans and stay true to the character and their Mythos. Something the general audience couldn't care less about.

 

[Solaire]

I'd absolutely be okay with that. What's left for him to make? Spider-Man has gadgets, but not as many as other heroes. His most important gadget is his web shooter which he created on his own. Tony was even impressed with how he managed to compress his webbing. Then theres spider tracers, his utility belt (which I think is already taken care of), his camera? Why does this detract so much from the character?

They showed Peter collecting scrap electronics in the movie when he first enters his apartment, so that covers that for you.

His web shooter worked the same in the YouTube clip and in Peter's bedroom as it did in the airport scene as far as I saw. Was there anything noticeable about it besides the spider-signal that I missed? Why is there a strong possibility he enhanced the web shooting functionality? Or is that just assuming?

The costume is integrated with the web shooters from what I can see. Not to mention his lenses as well. I classify it as that because it's more high tech than a onesie.

As far as creativity goes, the fact that he didn't come up with the spider-signal doesn't bother me in the slightest. It comes nowhere close to as high tech as the web shooters are and how important they are to Spider-Man. If that bothers you that Peter didn't come up with the concept then I don't know what to tell you. Sorry that he's "dumbed down".

It's not about him being in the MCU, it's about the way Peter was portrayed in those 5 minutes. I felt as though they did an excellent job. The audience knows what they need to know. They know Peter is intelligent, they also know he's creative. Do you honestly think there's a demographic of people out there who saw the post credit scene and thought "Wow, Peter couldn't have come up with the spider-signal on his own? I guess he's not the creative genius we all grew up with in the comics..." Give me a break man. The GA loves him and his relationship with Stark.

I understand this might be frustrating for you if you feel this strongly about those aspects of Peter. I feel bad for you, because it looks like they're going in a direction you won't like with the inclusion of RDJ in Homecoming. I feel as though he's going to have a huge influence on Peter over the years, I'm actually looking forward to it. The positive side is that I don't think there are many who feel as strongly about these arguments as you do. I love what they're doing, and I can get over Stark assisting with some of his gadgets. Pros and cons to everything, however, the pros outweigh the cons with this Spidey by a landslide.

Couldn't agree more here.

Only thing is I can't even think of a single negative regarding Tony being in Homecoming. Many are calling Holland's Spider-Man the best ever and that was only 15-20 minutes. I doubt Marvel would go backwards and hurt his character by making it all about Stark.

The new Sciencebros are coming. Just imagine Peter and Banner or Peter and Rocket.

 

[Poppy]

A huge influence? um.. What? You're okay with Marvel turning Peter into Tony Stark jr? Look, I'm looking foward to seeing Peter and Tony again in Homecoming as friends because I liked their scene in Civil War, but I don't want him dating Aunt May, helping Spider-Man defeat his villains or having a "huge influence" on Peter over the years. If ANYTHING, I'd rather Cap have a huge influence on Peter because his morals are a lot closer to Peter's than Tony.


I'm really hoping Cap is in Homecoming now because I don't want Stark getting into Peter's head and turning him into a mini-version of himself. Peter in the end needs to become his own man not a subsidiary of Tony Stark.

And for the record, the GA could get on board with ANYTHING as long it's sold the right way, but it's Marvel's job to respect the source material, respect the fans and stay true to the character and their Mythos. Something the general audience couldn't care less about.

Exactlyyyyyyyy!

But I wouldn't even want Cap in this movie, I would rather have Peter figuring out all by himself, that his values and Tony's aren't very similar.

 

[JOE]

A huge influence? um.. What? You're okay with Marvel turning Peter into Tony Stark jr? Look, I'm looking foward to seeing Peter and Tony again in Homecoming as friends because I liked their scene in Civil War, but I don't want him dating Aunt May, helping Spider-Man defeat his villains or having a "huge influence" on Peter over the years. If ANYTHING, I'd rather Cap have a huge influence on Peter because his morals are a lot closer to Peter's than Tony.


I'm really hoping Cap is in Homecoming now because I don't want Stark getting into Peter's head and turning him into a mini-version of himself. Peter in the end needs to become his own man not a subsidiary of Tony Stark.

And for the record, the GA could get on board with ANYTHING as long it's sold the right way, but it's Marvel's job to respect the source material, respect the fans and stay true to the character and their Mythos. Something the general audience couldn't care less about.

I never brought up dating May, so not sure where you pulled that from.

Break down the great power speech and think of how it relates to Tony, because it does. In the first Iron Man movie he does a complete 180 once he realizes what his weapons are doing. With his suit that he built (great power) he learns that he's able to help people in a serious way. He didn't have to fly back to where he was tortured and save all those people, but he felt it was his responsibility to. That's not someone you'd want influencing Peter? Cause I'm fine with him taking on the "mentor" role. I think they could have a ton of great "heart to heart" moments.

Peter isn't going to become a "mini Stark". Peter is and always was a humble guy in the comics, they're not going to turn him into an arrogant genius playboy. These concerns are actually funny lol. Those 5 minutes of Peter Parker were fantastic and embodied everything that is Peter Parker. Everyone just needs to chill, they're not going to compromise his character for laughs.

 

[KnuckleBomb]

Nah, i'm not okay with this and I still don't like the mentor idea (for now) I love when Spidey is doing his own thing and creating his own gadgets he did that in the comics and it needs to stay that way and if what happened in the sfter-credits scene that he didn't make not okay with RDJ better be in this movie as little as possible and I better not see any kind of influence from the usm cartoon or i'm going to walk away from this with no problem.

 

[PeterBenParker]

A huge influence? um.. What? You're okay with Marvel turning Peter into Tony Stark jr? Look, I'm looking foward to seeing Peter and Tony again in Homecoming as friends because I liked their scene in Civil War, but I don't want him dating Aunt May, helping Spider-Man defeat his villains or having a "huge influence" on Peter over the years. If ANYTHING, I'd rather Cap have a huge influence on Peter because his morals are a lot closer to Peter's than Tony.

I'm really hoping Cap is in Homecoming now because I don't want Stark getting into Peter's head and turning him into a mini-version of himself. Peter in the end needs to become his own man not a subsidiary of Tony Stark.

And for the record, the GA could get on board with ANYTHING as long it's sold the right way, but it's Marvel's job to respect the source material, respect the fans and stay true to the character and their Mythos. Something the general audience couldn't care less about.

 

[AvegningSpider]

A huge influence? um.. What? You're okay with Marvel turning Peter into Tony Stark jr? Look, I'm looking foward to seeing Peter and Tony again in Homecoming as friends because I liked their scene in Civil War, but I don't want him dating Aunt May, helping Spider-Man defeat his villains or having a "huge influence" on Peter over the years. If ANYTHING, I'd rather Cap have a huge influence on Peter because his morals are a lot closer to Peter's than Tony.


I'm really hoping Cap is in Homecoming now because I don't want Stark getting into Peter's head and turning him into a mini-version of himself. Peter in the end needs to become his own man not a subsidiary of Tony Stark.

And for the record, the GA could get on board with ANYTHING as long it's sold the right way, but it's Marvel's job to respect the source material, respect the fans and stay true to the character and their Mythos. Something the general audience couldn't care less about.

If was ever time i would agree with Harry, is probably this.

 

[BatsDC]

A huge influence? um.. What? You're okay with Marvel turning Peter into Tony Stark jr? Look, I'm looking foward to seeing Peter and Tony again in Homecoming as friends because I liked their scene in Civil War, but I don't want him dating Aunt May, helping Spider-Man defeat his villains or having a "huge influence" on Peter over the years. If ANYTHING, I'd rather Cap have a huge influence on Peter because his morals are a lot closer to Peter's than Tony.

There's been zero indication whatsoever that this will happen, but whatever floats your speculative boat man