The Amazing Spider-Man Rules for the Reboot

[DDRSkata]

Spidey can't commute?

NYC including all the Burroughs is like 17 million. I don't want to add it up on a calculator because I really don't care. Then if you count all the suburbs then there ya go. It really doesn't matter if I am a couple million off, that is still a **** load of people.

No. Including the boroughs is 8 million. I looked it up. Including the whole metro area, it's 19 million. That's the 8 million in NYC, which is Manhattan and the other four boroughs, all of them, all the boroughs, every borough, all five of them, plus the 11 million in suburbs and nearby cities.

And it doesn't matter if Spider-Man commutes (which he doesn't; he lives somewhere in the city, it's pretty clear). He pretty much only goes to four places: home, work, Aunt May's, and school. Work and Aunt May's are off this train in real life. His school and possibly his home are off it in the movie. The train, being something like ten cars long, each car holding probably fifty people, likely contains at least one person Peter sees on a daily basis in one of those places. Even if that person somehow forgets what goddamn Spider-Man looks like, the picture he or she sends into the Bugle would not.

And I can't tell you who that girl is or where she lives, but I'm sure the biggest newspaper in New York could, especially if she worked for them, and especially if they had a reason to care like they would in the case of finding the identity of Spider-Man. I mean, ****, 4chan could do it now, just for ****s and giggles.

 

[chaseter]

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/census/popcur.shtml

Yeah if Spidey just saved my life I would take his picture and go sell it.

 

[Mary Jane Watson]

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No one said he was 100% faithful. People claiming that he wasn't faithful don't know what they are talking about.

So many people that I know who are actually believed that spider man is " baby" who cried alll time, boring, very serious like black and white, *****, obsessed with MJ, weak, not fast enough in the fight, very weak spider sense.. Heck my friend thought that he CANT lift atv and batfan even thought that batman can beat spider man easily.

I just dont dont want give a WRONG info about spider man to people.

So as a comic book fan my major complaint is how they change so much of what made the characters who they were.

That is exactly my point...comic book fans are the only people who are going to care THAT MUCH about something that really isn't all that much of a big deal to most people

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Spider-Man should be a formidable match for his enemies, not like in the Raimi's 1st & 2nd movies










Formidable challenge for his enemies he was in those twot:

Tell me the name of this girl and where she lives

If you want to write a script where a guy has that ability then yeah it is possible. Is it probable? Nope.

I'm not a hacker, nor a stalker

 

[chaseter]

I think I would have walked out of SM2 like I nearly did SM3 if someone took a picture on the train then took it home and found out that Spider-Man's real name is Peter Parker and exactly where he lives.

 

[kedrell]

That's more work than they'd even need to do. They could've just emailed it to the Bugle from their phone. Busted!

 

[TheSlag]

Just think how much some of the Mags or TMZ (or whoever) would pay for that shot. And I'm "sure" they would of just printed the pic without even trying to figure out who it was.

Headline.. Spidey Unmasked.. but Dang.. out of a city of millions.. we just can't figure out who he is. "Sorry". LOL t:

 

[Spider-Fan]

As a whole, I would give Raimi a passing grade on being faithful to Spider-Man, but there was some stuff where he was not faithful to the characters and storylines. And there was some other stuff where he took liberties with characters and storylines where (it was needed) but I did not like the approach he took. (i.e. the Goblin costumes).

I agree some of his changes were not in the spirit of Spider-Man (primarily in regard to SM3 and the changing of Uncle Ben's killer amongst a couple other choices), but I do feel overall they were Spider-Man films, not films about a superhero dressed as Spider-Man.

 

[chaseter]

That's more work than they'd even need to do. They could've just emailed it to the Bugle from their phone. Busted!

That is what I would do to a guy that just saved my life. Thanks Spidey!

 

[spider-neil]

If Spidey had just saved my life on the train I personally wouldn't take and then sell pictures of him but I can 'see' why some people would, it would be their once in a lifetime chance to make a lot of money.

 

[Eggyman]

Plus, some people are just ********s.

 

[kedrell]

^Exactly!

 

[chaseter]

It's the movie we all want.

 

[Immortalfire]

Things weren't quite as "on demand" in 04 as they are now.

 

[Tony Stark]

This should not be the same as the other movies, but at the same time the Rami films were very good. The 3rd one has it's shortcomings, but it's not as bad as some make it out to be (i.e. it's not Superman III, or Batman Forever).

I'm a bit worried about the tone of this movie, because it seems like it's going to be so dark that the elements alot of people complained about (like not enough humor in the Spidey outfit) are going to be hard or impossible to do because it's so dark.

Spider-man is not dark, and neither is Superman, so it bothers me when every reboot occurs everyone says the reason they weren't good is because they weren't dark enough.

Anyway dispite some of the things I don't like, I'm very curious to see this film, which is something I didn't think I'd say before.

 

[chaseter]

Things weren't quite as "on demand" in 04 as they are now.

Sending a pic to a newspaper to out someone has been around for ages.

 

[kedrell]

This should not be the same as the other movies, but at the same time the Rami films were very good. The 3rd one has it's shortcomings, but it's not as bad as some make it out to be (i.e. it's not Superman III, or Batman Forever).

I think it's every bit as bad as those. The only real difference to my mind is that SM3 both kept the cast/crew from the previous films(unlike BF) AND was given a sufficient budget(unlike Supes3). But the stories are all fail, IMO.

I'm a bit worried about the tone of this movie, because it seems like it's going to be so dark that the elements alot of people complained about (like not enough humor in the Spidey outfit) are going to be hard or impossible to do because it's so dark.

Spider-man is not dark, and neither is Superman, so it bothers me when every reboot occurs everyone says the reason they weren't good is because they weren't dark enough.
Anyway dispite some of the things I don't like, I'm very curious to see this film, which is something I didn't think I'd say before.

I would say it isn't that they weren't dark enough but that they lacked the appropriate seriousness in tone. I don't really want a 'dark' Supes or Spidey film either but I damn sure want them to take things like dangers and other situations seriously so there is preserved an element of suspense and so that the audience can buy what they're selling as well. As the old saying goes, if THEY"RE not taking it seriously then why should the audience?

 

[Tony Stark]

I think it's every bit as bad as those. The only real difference to my mind is that SM3 both kept the cast/crew from the previous films(unlike BF) AND was given a sufficient budget(unlike Supes3). But the stories are all fail, IMO.

You can't be serious about that. Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Superman III and IV are in a class all of their own. The only recent film that could be compared to them is Punisher War Zone or CatWoman, i.e. a movie so bad that it just stopped caring.

You can say the story of SM3 failed, and I'd agree with you to some extent, but good grief, putting Richard Pryor in a Superman movie? I don't know how old you are, but I saw that one in the theater, and even at a young age, I knew that was a mistake.

I would say it isn't that they weren't dark enough but that they lacked the appropriate seriousness in tone. I don't really want a 'dark' Supes or Spidey film either but I damn sure want them to take things like dangers and other situations seriously so there is preserved an element of suspense and so that the audience can buy what they're selling as well. As the old saying goes, if THEY"RE not taking it seriously then why should the audience?

And this is where everyone is all over the map. Some people complain about Spider-man's lack of humor in the Rami films. So is he supposed to make wise cracks when Mary Jane or Aunt May are in jeopardy? To my knowledge he didn't do that in the comics.

To me Iron Man 1 is the bar for Marvel films to strike the balance between having a serious tone, and being fun, entertaining and having humor.

What people need to understand with this, or any other reboot, is there is no definitive version of Spider-man, just as there is no definitive version of Batman. However there comes a point where you crossed the line too far in either direction (see James Cameron scriptment, that is NOT spider-man).

In any case I'm looking forward to this movie, but I do wish they'd let a bit more time pass since Spider-man 3.

 

[kedrell]

You can't be serious about that. Batman Forever, Batman and Robin, Superman III and IV are in a class all of their own. The only recent film that could be compared to them is Punisher War Zone or CatWoman, i.e. a movie so bad that it just stopped caring.

I didn't say those. Of course THOSE are worse. Those are complete jokes masquerading as movies.

You can say the story of SM3 failed, and I'd agree with you to some extent, but good grief, putting Richard Pryor in a Superman movie? I don't know how old you are, but I saw that one in the theater, and even at a young age, I knew that was a mistake.

I saw it in theaters when it first came out and yes Pryor was a huge mistake. But the film had some good ideas that it just didn't develop well(Supes dealing with his dark side, Clark returning home, etc.) just like BF & SM3 do.

And this is where everyone is all over the map. Some people complain about Spider-man's lack of humor in the Rami films. So is he supposed to make wise cracks when Mary Jane or Aunt May are in jeopardy? To my knowledge he didn't do that in the comics.

To me Iron Man 1 is the bar for Marvel films to strike the balance between having a serious tone, and being fun, entertaining and having humor.

What people need to understand with this, or any other reboot, is there is no definitive version of Spider-man, just as there is no definitive version of Batman. However there comes a point where you crossed the line too far in either direction (see James Cameron scriptment, that is NOT spider-man).

In any case I'm looking forward to this movie, but I do wish they'd let a bit more time pass since Spider-man 3.

I'm in total agreement there. IM1 knew when to be funny and how far to take it and when to be serious and to not let the two aspects interfere with each other(which would make a mess of the tone). A good Spidey(or Superman) film needs to do likewise.

 

[DeskLamp]

Spider-Man may not be a dark character, but his story is most definitely dark. It's every bit as tragic as Batman's (in fact, Spider-Man's is far more wrenching in my opinion), and is certainly deserving of a depiction with the same seriousness and drama we saw in Batman Begins.

Sam Raimi's film dealt with the story in a funny, colorful way, and was more concerned with making the panels seem to pop right off the pages of the comic. Now don't get me wrong, it's succeeds perfectly in that sense, and there's no doubt it's a fun movie to watch (preferably stoned). But despite some emotional scenes, it's hardly a dramatic or respectable presentation of the story. The focus of the drama it does display is the relationship between Peter and MJ. Uncle Ben's death is handled briefly and really only serves as a means to introduce to the "superhero" Spider-Man and usher in the main action of the movie. It's essentially forgotten after that.

Hopefully in the new one Ben's death and Peter's guilt will be dealt with as a major part of the story and will be Peter's driving force through the whole film.

 

[Mary Jane Watson]

^ Yes, Spider-Man may not be a dark character, but his story is most definitely dark...agree. I think it is hard to make in the movie which supposed be gritty, dark setting while there is a witty, light-hearted spider man makes some jokes and like u kno??

 

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

It can't be that hard, they've been doing it in the comics for decades.

 

[Mary Jane Watson]

It can't be that hard, they've been doing it in the comics for decades.

Yes, I think it is pretty easy to do that in comics( more freedom) but movie? Movie= usually very serious/ suspicious/ only 2hrs. If you know what I am saying?

 

[Tacit Ronin]

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/census/popcur.shtml

Yeah if Spidey just saved my life I would take his picture and go sell it.

I don't see how this is a stretch.

People are capable of many things once they are desperate.

What if you were desperately in need of money?

 

[ModestMr.Green]

Uhm, 'scuse me. Batman Forever is the best of all the Bat films.