Sequels Sam Raimi talks Spidey 4

[Visionary]

The irony is, should a recast happen, you guy'll be more rampant over these boards than you've ever been.

That's true.

 

[terry78]

If they recast, I'd assume you would want someone who is actually in their mid 20's. But they'd have to carry that same vibe of lovable dorky face in the body of a gymnast as Maguire had to do.

 

[Visionary]

Still, the movie could end up being much better than the last 3 movies.

This could also be true, one never knows.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That's right!

I think people are forgetting that, there are a total of 6 planned spider-man movies. We've got 3 already so it only makes sense to recast for the last 3 movies. I mean seriously, how out of place will it be for aging TMags and his gut to slug out another movie only for a new cast to come in for 2 movies. It is indeed random and makes very little sense.
Also, people seem to be forgetting that these movies are going in a new direction and thankfully, Raimi has no influence over the script. TMags and co have done their time and its time to move on. People act as though these movies begin and end with Tobey and Raimi and I don't know if I should laugh or cry at such stupidity. spider-man was here before many of us were born and he'll be here long after we're dead.

I'm tired of the overall mediocrity of these movies and I believe in improvements. Imagine if only stan lee wrote spider-man and no one else, imagine if only steve ditko dre spider-man and no one else...

I personally want a new cast and crew, a different take and approach. He who dares wins. I'd rather these movies take risks and potentially luck out as opposed to using the same old uninspiring formula where all the major villains die, spider-man's mask is constanly off, MJ is forever in danger and Raimi bragging about how much of a fanboy he is...when clearly, he just doesn't get spider-man but only skimms and gives us elements.

The time for change is now and you'll all witness this change as it unfolds before your very eyes. You can hold on to your false hope of seeing TMags squeeze back into the tights, me, I'm a realist and I await the news of a recast.

Not everyone thought non of the movies in this trilogy were mediocre, so sorry i have to disagree, you may want someone else but i dont, at least with Raimi, you are almost guaranteed a better than average movie, if he left, god knows who they would get to take over.

 

[Mr Jide]

If they recast, I'd assume you would want someone who is actually in their mid 20's. But they'd have to carry that same vibe of lovable dorky face in the body of a gymnast as Maguire had to do.

TMags had the body of a gymnast????

 

[Mr Jide]

Not everyone thought non of the movies in this trilogy were mediocre, so sorry i have to disagree, you may want someone else but i dont, at least with Raimi, you are almost guaranteed a better than average movie, if he left, god knows who they would get to take over.

Yet here we are, with the majority of fan boys banging on about how crap sm3 was. Raimi's had his 3, let someone else have a go.

 

[Figs]

Not everyone thought non of the movies in this trilogy were mediocre, so sorry i have to disagree, you may want someone else but i dont, at least with Raimi, you are almost guaranteed a better than average movie, if he left, god knows who they would get to take over.

Yet here we are, with the majority of fan boys banging on about how crap sm3 was. Raimi's had his 3, let someone else have a go.

I have to agree with both of your opinions on this matter. I just don't know what I'm more for, bring them back for one more or get a entirely new cast/crew.

 

[Visionary]

Doesn't really matter, either way, they're going to make a fortune off of us...for the fourth time.

 

[kursavwilage]

Mr Jide & Batspider I agree with you 100 % !

Everyone always says how Raimi nailed it in this so-called trilogy , but the only thing he nailed is making 3 superhero themed soap-opera style action flicks . I thought after Spidey and M.J. finally got it over with and got togther we would move on to some other struggles . No , it was just another aspect of the M.J. , Harry , Pete love triangle with a few more villains . My argument with Raimi and the current writers of the movies is why do they think that they can improve on the original stories witten buy Stan Lee and Steve Ditko ? If Raimi was a fan of the Spiderman world then he would leave the stories alone and just bring them to the screen without his spin on them !

 

[Spider-Fan]

Not everyone thought non of the movies in this trilogy were mediocre, so sorry i have to disagree, you may want someone else but i dont, at least with Raimi, you are almost guaranteed a better than average movie, if he left, god knows who they would get to take over.

Agreed. The movie could end up being the best, but it has more potential to go the way of BF or B&R without Raimi, and history in comic movies is my evidence. I have said this numerous times, but trying to do a movie in the same continuity as other movies by a different cast and crew has yet to work for comic movies. BB and TIH have/are establishing new continuities, so they don't count.

 

[Donald Thomas]

Spider-Man 2 is one of the best superhero movies to date. Spider-Man 1 is fairly averege. Spider-Man 3 has it's well done moments, but when Raimi was handed a certain villian for SM3, thats when things went haywire.
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In my opinion this just just shows that Raimi isn't true to the real stories and thinks that he or Hollywood can do it better than the writers at Marvel . What's next ? Kraven the hunter will be Kraven the animal rights activist ?

Aloha,
Here's the deal. Hollywood NEVER sticks to the book that the movie is made into.You will always be disappointed at a Hollywood version of a comic because the director is always going to give the story HIS or HER interpretation instead of just sticking to the script as written. Even Marvel is going to change some parts of Iron Man to bring it up to date.The thing about all of this unmasking in the Spidey movies is simple. They are paying TMag Millions of dollars, ANYONE could wear the Spidey costume.Of all of the directors of comic book movies, Raimi has read more Spidey comics than anyone else. But, he is still a Hollywood director who feels that he MUST put his stamp on the character.I will always have mixed feelings about that.Call me old fashioned but -ORGANICS STILL SUCKS and for me ALWAYS will.
Spidey rules

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Still, the movie could end up being much better than the last 3 movies.

What makes you think that? A different director could make Spidey4 with things we have never heard of, turning it into a horrible film. I have a feeling that if Sam stays, the film will be amazing.

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

i have to disagree i just hated and loved with what they did with Venom. They nailed his look and all that but His screen time was way too short and killing him off like that really was lame yet if they some how find a way to bring him back in oh lets say Spider-Man 5 (since Sony is planing on making 6 and for the sake of the writer sticking to two villains in Spider-Man 4 which i think will be Lizard and Carnage.) I will be pleased with that. Makes sense to have Lizard in Spider-Man 4 because Dr. Connors has been introduced and Carnage as a villain because Dr. Connors has a little bit of that symbiote which can somehow bring Venom back as a cliffhanger. just would like to see it go that route for the sake of those who didn't like the end of Venom in Spider-Man 3.

yeaaaaahhhh, keep thinking that....

 

[Radiant Dawn]

I hope Sam and everyone return for just one more movie. Make it an even number. I'm keeping my hopes at a reasonable level so I don't get crushed if Sam and co. don't return, though.

 

[Visionary]

In my opinion this just just shows that Raimi isn't true to the real stories and thinks that he or Hollywood can do it better than the writers at Marvel . What's next ? Kraven the hunter will be Kraven the animal rights activist ?

Aloha,
Here's the deal. Hollywood NEVER sticks to the book that the movie is made into.You will always be disappointed at a Hollywood version of a comic because the director is always going to give the story HIS or HER interpretation instead of just sticking to the script as written. Even Marvel is going to change some parts of Iron Man to bring it up to date.The thing about all of this unmasking in the Spidey movies is simple. They are paying TMag Millions of dollars, ANYONE could wear the Spidey costume.Of all of the directors of comic book movies, Raimi has read more Spidey comics than anyone else. But, he is still a Hollywood director who feels that he MUST put his stamp on the character.I will always have mixed feelings about that.Call me old fashioned but -ORGANICS STILL SUCKS and for me ALWAYS will.
Spidey rules

At the same time, these ain't Raimi's characters, they belong to Marvel. Marvel should be inforcing that few changes be made to their characters/stories, they have the power to do it, but they don't. It doesn't matter who directs SM4, if Marvel doesn't put their foot down, you can forget all about not having any changes.

 

[chaseter]

People compalining about these movies not being 100% accurate to their comic source are crazy. Look at a comic book, if a movie contained half of the stupid sh** in those books it would be utter madness. Clones, zombies, love octagons, twists out the whazoo, etc... are all fine and dandy on a medium that people expect it from. If Spider-Man was truly faithful to the comics, we would have 8 or so Venoms, dumb villians like Kangaroo and Egghead, Aunt May dying, coming back, dying, and coming back, the list goes on and on. Sam Raimi and co. did a great job in bringing to light a classic character into a different medium. He brought the name 'Spider-Man' back into the forefront of our society. I applaud the man for making Peter Parker and his trials relatable to the fans and at the same time brought in a new age of young fans as hyped as ever into the world of superheroes.

 

[kursavwilage]

At the same time, these ain't Raimi's characters, they belong to Marvel. Marvel should be inforcing that few changes be made to their characters/stories, they have the power to do it, but they don't. It doesn't matter who directs SM4, if Marvel doesn't put their foot down, you can forget all about not having any changes.

Marvel sold the Spiderman rights to Sony therefore Marvel has little say so on the final product that hits the screen . Also , I think that had something to do with Marvel going it alone and forming it's own production company , so they will have more control over other hero movies .

 

[Donald Thomas]

Marvel sold the Spiderman rights to Sony therefore Marvel has little say so on the final product that hits the screen . Also , I think that had something to do with Marvel going it alone and forming it's own production company , so they will have more control over other hero movies .

Aloha,
Very True.Marvel has over 5,000 characters that they can sell various rights to.Spider-Man is such a marketing gold mine it's crazy.In the history of Spider-Man, when Anazing Spidr-Man went from Ditko to Romita, that was considered a major change.It would be great if we got a recast and while I salute Raimi for the proven success of the first 3 Spider-Man movies, I will always believe that the characters history is strong enough that it can beat Titanic's box office record.
Spidey rules

 

[Venom 1988]

What makes you think that? A different director could make Spidey4 with things we have never heard of, turning it into a horrible film.

Christ think outside the box for once. Everything is so black and white with you.

 

[BobJM]

I'm sure SM4 would be great, even if there was another actor. But I can't imagine someone in the role...yet. I don't want to think of a whole new cast or crew unless Raimi says he's definitely not coming back.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

It shows that it wasn't his idea and he didn't like Venom in the way that he killed him off so quick and easy . Are we to assume that Harry was stronger than Venom because a pumpkin bomb barely scarred harry but vaporized Venom .

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[Spade]

One would think common sense would tell you why Eddie didn't survive...though, that video doesn't seem to point out that Eddie definitely hadn't bonded with the symbiote again. He jumped into it and began to adhere; he was still a normal human being when that blast blew him to kingdom come.

As for Raimi returning? I don't think he's a horrible director. I just think that his writing and mindset is something that shouldn't have an influence over the sequel. I'd be okay with him directing if the script was really solid and made up for the intense disappointment that was the third film, though I don't hold this cast in the same esteem as some diehard fans seem to.

 

[Mr Jide]

What makes you think that?

Common sense and applied logic makes me think that. I'm fully aware that it is very possible that the sm4 could suck should we get a new cast and crew, which you and others seem to think is definite. I however, can look beyond sucking on Raimi's nut-sack and appreciate that there is other talent out there that can do a much better job.

A different director could make Spidey4 with things we have never heard of, turning it into a horrible film.

You've just proved my point.

I have a feeling that if Sam stays, the film will be amazing.

Yes, people who thought sm1 and 2 thought that sm3 would turn out to be the greatest thing since man discovered fire but uh, as you are aware, most fanboys here thought sm3 was a complete failure and guess who directed it, your hero, Sam half-assed Raimi.

 

[Mr Jide]

People compalining about these movies not being 100% accurate to their comic source are crazy. Look at a comic book, if a movie contained half of the stupid sh** in those books it would be utter madness. Clones, zombies, love octagons, twists out the whazoo, etc... are all fine and dandy on a medium that people expect it from. If Spider-Man was truly faithful to the comics, we would have 8 or so Venoms, dumb villians like Kangaroo and Egghead, Aunt May dying, coming back, dying, and coming back, the list goes on and on. Sam Raimi and co. did a great job in bringing to light a classic character into a different medium. He brought the name 'Spider-Man' back into the forefront of our society. I applaud the man for making Peter Parker and his trials relatable to the fans and at the same time brought in a new age of young fans as hyped as ever into the world of superheroes.

I stopped reading here because it is clear that your post was invalidated before execution. Nobody here is requesting that these movies be 100% accurate to the source material.

 

[bellepheron]

I agree with Mr Jide that I thought SM3 was going to be the best movie of this century and was majorly dissapointed. If Sam Raimi and the cast couldnt deliver on SM3, and I think the majority of the blame lies with Sam as he wrote and directed it, then what makes anyone think they can deliver for SM4?

SM3 brought me to the conclusion that this cast and crew have taken the SM franchise as far as they can and its time for some fresh blood both on and off camera.