The Amazing Spider-Man Script Re-Write

[Infinity9999x]

He would have been a better fit than Tobey.

I actually think Topher would have been a great Pete. He could handle the humor great.

 

[bullets]

Maybe they'll NOT write...or have re-written any part that has him crying like a girl again. Or making ugly faces every few seconds. And write a movie that has him being Spider-Man a bit more. I'm kind of tired of Raimi saying that the movie is all about Peter Parker. It's not in my opinion.

It's about Peter Parker just not the one we're used to.

 

[weezerspider]

I actually think Topher would have been a great Pete. He could handle the humor great.

He would seriously have been PERFECT, but sm3 ruined that. There's no way he can get casted as Peter in future films now. However, he was fantastic in sm3. He was the only person who did a good job.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I actually think Topher would have been a great Pete. He could handle the humor great.

I disagree.... Peter is more than just humorous and it appears that all Topher can do is act snobbish and humorous.

Shia have a pretty good range of emotions and characters.... he's no doubt, a character actor; and imo, can grasp the very essence and range of who the character Peter Parker/Spiderman is.

So I understand the angle you think that of Topher; but really in my eyes(ime), he's no different than Tobey. They both are limited in range. Topher can deliver the humor, Tobey, the good guy next door. Neither, have the full range neede to capture the essence of PP/Spidey.

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

I disagree.... Peter is more than just humorous and it appears that all Topher can do is act snobbish and humorous.

Shia have a pretty good range of emotions and characters.... he's no doubt, a character actor; and imo, can grasp the very essence and range of who the character Peter Parker/Spiderman is.

So I understand the angle you think that of Topher; but really in my eyes(ime), he's no different than Tobey. They both are limited in range. Topher can deliver the humor, Tobey, the good guy next door. Neither, have the full range neede to capture the essence of PP/Spidey.

wow......Shia? IMO Shias just a lucky man with finding roles...

 

[omid17]

wow......Shia? IMO Shias just a lucky man with finding roles...

agreed

 

[Adrian89]

I think Shia is ok, he's funny sometimes, but I definetly don't see him as Parker/Spider-Man. If I had to choose a Peter Parker, I would choose Topher instead of Tobey or Shia. He can pull it off.

 

[zeptron]

I like Shia and I think he would have made an okay PP. But he was too young at the time to be playing someone who had just graduated from high school.

 

[matrix_ghost]

So now they got the seabiscuit guy rewriting the script. So it's acase of the actor determining the story as opposed to the character he should play
It'll be interesting to see just what Lindsey Abairs and James Van Der Bilts ideas were.

 

[SpaceWay2009]

Shia as Peter Parker? Hm, I can see that happening. He can capture the humor, sloppy, and clumsy side of Peter.

 

[SpeterMan3]

He would seriously have been PERFECT, but sm3 ruined that. There's no way he can get casted as Peter in future films now. However, he was fantastic in sm3. He was the only person who did a good job.

What about James Franco?



And about Shia...

I say no. He just wouldn't be good, IMO. I mean, I know his abilities, (I grew up watching Even Stevens, saw both Transformers movies, didn't see anything else with him, other than Tru Confessions [Disney Channel movie] where he played a mentally challenged kid), and I just don't think I could accept him as Parker. He's too overexposed now anyway. I don't want someone that everybody knows to play Peter/ Spidey, just because a lot of people will go in, seeing the actor and not Peter/ Spidey (especially when it's Shia).

 

[thejon93]

You know... I think that things are certainly looking up for this movie...

Spoiler

Compared to 'Green Lantern'.

 

[mclay18]

You know... I think that things are certainly looking up for this movie...

Spoiler

Compared to 'Green Lantern'.

I don't see why a lead role has anything to do with someone else rewriting SM-4.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Originally Posted by Venom'sDad
He would have been a better fit than Tobey.

I disagree.

 

[Venom'sDad]

wow......Shia? IMO Shias just a lucky man with finding roles...

Well.... say what you want; but, what role have Tobey or Topher been in that makes them stand out?

Shia would have been much better than Tobey; and, Topher does not even factor in.

 

[mclay18]

Since when did this thread devolve into a casting thread? This thread is about Gary Ross writing the latest draft of Spider-Man 4, let's keep on track please.

 

[LightningFlash]

Seems like they want this story to play to Tobey's strengths

And that's not much.

"Tobey, don't worry...you won't have to be built like you were in the first film as well."

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

Well.... say what you want; but, what role have Tobey or Topher been in that makes them stand out?

Shia would have been much better than Tobey; and, Topher does not even factor in.

Pleasantville, Cider House Rules, and Wonder Boys IMO.
as for Topher....he really only stood out in SM3 apart from being funny in that 70's show...but Tobey was a way better fit than Shia IMO...

 

[Infinity9999x]

I disagree.... Peter is more than just humorous and it appears that all Topher can do is act snobbish and humorous.

Shia have a pretty good range of emotions and characters.... he's no doubt, a character actor; and imo, can grasp the very essence and range of who the character Peter Parker/Spiderman is.

So I understand the angle you think that of Topher; but really in my eyes(ime), he's no different than Tobey. They both are limited in range. Topher can deliver the humor, Tobey, the good guy next door. Neither, have the full range neede to capture the essence of PP/Spidey.

I disagree. Topher played the good guy next door all through That 70's show, and he could handle the humor. Not only that, but there were multiple parts in That 70's show where he had to do dramatic scenes, and he handled them fine.

He also looks the part of Pete much more than Shia does. I love Shia, but looks-wise he's just not right for the role.

 

[dark_b]

spiderman 2 also had more re-writtes?
or
spiderman 2 also had more rewrittes in one year?

there is a big difference.

 

[Spiderine]

Who were the original writers in SM2? Did they change writers?

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Since when did this thread devolve into a casting thread? This thread is about Gary Ross writing the latest draft of Spider-Man 4, let's keep on track please.

Yeah, I agree.

 

[Spade]

To clarify, for those who are confused on the nature of rewrites: There's a difference between a new draft and a page one rewrite. A new draft means just that- the previous draft, but with revisions made. If I was commissioned to write a new draft, I'd be redoing clusters of dialogue, omitting scenes that would push us over budget, inserting scenes that might help the narrative along, and other minor services. Typically, a new draft is submitted by the same writer or writing team. That's why you hear of so many submissions from the Green Lantern team with no real change-ups in the writing roster.

What some are thinking of is a page one rewrite. In theory, f I had to do a page one rewrite, the only thing I'd be recycling is some plot points, locations, and characters. These only go for about 3 to 5 pages, sprinkled with some description and very little dialogue; that gets written in later during the scriptment or drafting phase. Ex: Michael Chabon's script for Spider-Man 2 is only similar to the finished film in a few beats and in character involvement. I say "in theory" because sometimes page one rewrites are done once locations are locked based on a previous draft, which is potentially disastrous. What that means is that you're not building from the ground up anymore, you're working around issues that early scouting has brought up and finessing them into the story. This became a problem during The Incredible Hulk, where Marvel Studios had to deal with having Brazil as a locked location for shooting to meet their release date.

In any case, I'd be glad there's more cooks in the kitchen after the last film. Keeping Spider-Man 3 so close to the vest led to two movies mashed into the span of one. I didn't like SM2 as much as some people did, but if you're going to make a fourth movie (still not sure you should) fresh ideas in the mix are a good thing.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I disagree. Topher played the good guy next door all through That 70's show, and he could handle the humor. Not only that, but there were multiple parts in That 70's show where he had to do dramatic scenes, and he handled them fine.

He also looks the part of Pete much more than Shia does. I love Shia, but looks-wise he's just not right for the role.

I think you are missing the point. 1st, Peter never was the boy next door, 2nd, both Topher & Tobey rande of characters are limited, finally, Shia has the persona of Peter just by being Shia. Besides... Tobey looks nothing like Peter Parker.

I don't know why so many hate the guy(not saying you), but he would have been a better Peter/Spidey than Tobey... and again, Topher does not even factor in. He's a goofball, and that's not Peter Parker. Look at the full range of the character and you would see that Shia fits the bill much better than those guys.

 

[Smit84]

Who were the original writers in SM2? Did they change writers?

Spider-man 2 went through a lot of writers and it's possible that each writer's take differed significantly from one another. I remember in 2002, after Spider-man 1 came out it seemed every other month someone else was being hired to re-write the Spider-man 2 script.

First the writing team of Al Gough and Miles Millar were hired. Smallville was just finishing its successful first season and that seemed like a good fit. Then David Koepp, who received sole writing credit on the first film (he wrote multiple drafts followed by uncredited rewrites done by Alvin Sargent and Scot Rosenberg), said he had a great idea and Sony agreed to let him do a first draft that Gough and Millar would then rewrite. According to a SHH report, Koepp's scrip focused on the continuation of the Goblin saga and introduced Gwen Stacy. This is supported by Michael Chabon's comments that early drafts featured Harry becoming the second Green Goblin and by Grant Curtis' comments on the Spider-man 3 commentary about how the Stacys "almost snuck into Spider-man 2."

Gough & Millar wrote a draft or two. They claim they came up with the idea of giving Doc Ock a wife and an inhibitor chip, and basically his whole character arc. They also said they invented the Peter/MJ/John Jameson triangle. The Black Cat also appeared in their version it seems.

Then Michael Chabon. When Spider-man 3 opened and he was asked why he didn't "save" the script like he did for Spider-man 2, he responded that he wasn't asked but he proceeded to compare Spider-man 3 to early drafts of Spider-man 2 which had Doc Ock, Black Cat, the Lizard, and Harry as the second Green Goblin. He was the first writer to feature Doc Ock as the sole villain. Unfortunately, his script still wasn't very good. His draft had certain scenes that were used in the film (the pizza delivery, the "this is heavy scene", a few others) but the story was significantly different. It has an altered version of the Spider-man no more story where Peter looses his powers by injecting a microchip into his arm.

The most signicant difference is Doc Ock, both in characterization and story. Here Doc Oc is portrayed much younger than usual and develops a crush on Mary Jane. He wears his tentacles for pleasure and only halfway through the script, during the train fight, do they bond to him. Now he is dying and he needs Spider-man's bone marrow to live. This alone is good enough reason not to use the draft.

Harry is also portrayed as a drug addict like in the comics but there is a sub plot involving him putting a bounty on Spider-man's head. Both unused storylines are the ones Avi Arad mentions on the DVD documentary.

Finally Alvin Sargent wrote the final drafts with input from Sam and Ivan Raimi using the best ideas from the various writers. Hence the final credits read "Story by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar and Michael Chabon, Screenplay by Alvin Sargent".