Script Rundown- Bigtime Spoilers

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think because we (as comic book junkies) can't get over why they don't use a gamma bomb for his origin. WMDs are a sensitive issue in our day and age and while we want the origin to be what it is, they are being PC about it. The bottom line is we should be happy that a movie is being done at all after the failure of the last attempt (please no comments from the Ang Lee cronies, my stomach can't take it). I, being a true Hulk fan will take this twist and run with it only because it still promises to be 10 times better than the 2003 version or effort. It won't matter what is written about this movie, because you will all just tear it apart anyway. I will enjoy what is being done as I have a personal connection to this movie and am very proud of what is being produced. I have a close-up view of what we will see and must say you guys will eat your words. I have info on the Hulk model being used for the movie and decided that it wouldn't matter to you guys. You will probably critique the sh1t outta that too. I'm out.

So we are not TRUE Hulk fans because we dont accept a script that deviates further from the source material than Ang's great movie did?

Do you realise how ridiculously hyprocritical this statment is?

Not to mention, if i dont like the sound of something will critique whatever the **** i want.

This movie sounds like it will be garbage, and at this point, i'm not even going to see it.

 

[Gianakin_]

I can´t even start to think what is going on with some of you guys, but i think that you are so willing for it to go right, you can´t even look at it with proper eyes.

Thank you so much for respecting the opinion of other people.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

Ok time to reboot this thread. Hold on...restarting....


Done.


Ok the topic is?

Script rundown I thought, lol. Well, I would like to set the record straight. I come on to SHH to write and share with whomever and sometimes get a little carried away, but mean no harm to anyone. I love the Hulk character alot and got defensive when I read all the negative press the movie is getting from fans. I associate fans with complete loyalty, standing behind their character no matter what. I see that isnt the case at times and it has bothered me as a fan. When I generalize a statement, its to express how I feel (with no regret) at that moment and move on. I don't want at any time to get into a verbal war with anyone as that is not me. Defending myself is instinctful not premeditated. If I offended anyone, I'm man enough to say "hey, I'm sorry". That doesn't signify weakness, I just don't need the non-sense. REBOOTING...........I think the direction of the script kinda caught me off guard with the serum stuff. I guess the accident is still mentioned in the movie, not just shooting up this serum. I guess the story can evolve with times as long as the core of the character stays intact.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

So we are not TRUE Hulk fans because we dont accept a script that deviates further from the source material than Ang's great movie did?

Do you realise how ridiculously hyprocritical this statment is?

Not to mention, if i dont like the sound of something will critique whatever the **** i want.

This movie sounds like it will be garbage, and at this point, i'm not even going to see it.

No, not really. I do believe you will go see it. Because think about it, you are a fan and look how loyal you are towards Ang Lee's version (which I thought was both good and bad). Example, I'm pretty sure you have a favorite team that you follow whether they are good or bad. Now you're loyal to your team and someone comes along and bashes your team. Now, I know people are intitled to speak their minds, but you defend your team regardless. That was my stance. Nothing personal, just a generalized statement. It doesn't mean it was targeted towards everyone, just those who are not Hulk fans and comment on the forum just to do so.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

Despite the not having the gamma explosion, or Rick Jones, I dig it!

Even though I was hoping for a bit of buddy film stuff. I think it would cool to do some charecter range for Hulks acting, where Rick jones is playing off the Hulk's banter, the way you'd normally see in buddy films. With that 70% friction, 30% friendship. That starts to change as they get to know each other and become best friends. Then Banner decides it's getting way to dangerous for Rick to be around him and ditches Rick.

If they could just do this along with the already existing script.

Aw well, I'm still a Hulk fan, and I get to see the essential charecter of the Hulk doing what he does best! So stop yer whinnin, and support this movie, cause it's going to be great! You can't have EVERYTHING you want!

I agree! Wow!! You nailed it!t: Hulk fans unite!

 

[Cracker Jack]

I associate fans with complete loyalty, standing behind their character no matter what. I see that isnt the case at times and it has bothered me as a fan.

EB, I'm assuming that you're adressing me. Yeah, I blew up yesterday. The first time I've said a negitive thing about this movie. Here's why, The problem I have is why do I feel sorry for Banner? He did this to himself. Not in an attempt to save someone but to prove he is right. In other words, for selfish reasons. This is more Jekyll and Hyde then Incredible Hulk. I hope that this summary left out the part that say the serum didn’t work. It seems to me that the serum doesn’t turn Banner into the Hulk but an accident later does. I think this because Blonsky doesn’t turn into the Abomination until after he get Banners blood injected into him. At least I hope so. I am completely loyal to The Hulk. The Incredible Hulk and it pisses me off that he gets raped all the time because his origin is so unbelievable. I get it, they thing no one will believe it. I guess so but this new twist is closer to Captain America than The Hulk. I gona try an be positive about this movie but it still baffles me why they blow off his origin without even giving it a try.

 

[EmeraldBeast]

EB, I'm assuming that you're adressing me. Yeah, I blew up yesterday. The first time I've said a negitive thing about this movie. Here's why, The problem I have is why do I feel sorry for Banner? He did this to himself. Not in an attempt to save someone but to prove he is right. In other words, for selfish reasons. This is more Jekyll and Hyde then Incredible Hulk. I hope that this summary left out the part that say the serum didn’t work. It seems to me that the serum doesn’t turn Banner into the Hulk but an accident later does. I think this because Blonsky doesn’t turn into the Abomination until after he get Banners blood injected into him. At least I hope so. I am completely loyal to The Hulk. The Incredible Hulk and it pisses me off that he gets raped all the time because his origin is so unbelievable. I get it, they thing no one will believe it. I guess so but this new twist is closer to Captain America than The Hulk. I gona try an be positive about this movie but it still baffles me why they blow off his origin without even giving it a try.

Yeah, I know. I kinda went bananas too reading all that stuff. I really don't like the serum bull-****, but I think if given a chance we can live with it. I didnt want the Cap America association either, as that crap threw me a curveball. Like I said before, I feel they are being PC about the bomb issue as they will refer to "the accident" that causes the change. Maybe they will show the bomb in a flashback combining both serum and bomb radiation. Please don't take what I wrote personally. I was frustrated. Talk to you soon. I will IM info I have on the model.t:

 

[Golgo-13]

From what i could gather from scripts spoilers, the scripts suck.
I can´t even start to think what is going on with some of you guys, but i think that you are so willing for it to go right, you can´t even look at it with proper eyes.
But, like i said, this is what i can gather from the spoilers in the articles, so, in the movie, it might be totally diferent.

The reason why Ross finds Banner in Brazil is just ridiculous "Later, Bruce helps the factory owner repair a machine. He cuts himself, a few drops of blood landing on the bottle conveyer belt. Bruce quickly cleans it up, but misses a drop that landed in a bottle…Later, at the office of GENERAL THUNDERBOLT ROSS, MAJOR CABOT reports that a woman got gamma sickness from a South American soda."

The simple idea of Banner, one of the most intelligent persons in the world, having help to find the cure is stupid to say the least.
But even more when that helper is someone he doesn´t know, which means that he is talking with some stranger about the fact that he changes into a green goliath.
This is just moronic.
And better yet, Sterns actually "finds" a cure, which just shows how average Banner is as a scientist.

Blonksky´s progressive change until becaming the Abomination is so cliché is not even funny.

And there is more.....

To all the ppl that are giving IH a hard time about saying the script sucks;

even though i don't agree with his assessment of the material, i think it's wise to keep in mind that this is probably how the general public will probabaly react to the news that yet another Hulk movie is coming out, thanks to the sour taste Ang's Hulk left in alot of ppls mouths.

Promoting this movie as having nothing to do with Ang's movie is the best way to go. All those saying and hoping that this movie will feel like a continuation of Ang's Hulk because of Banner being in South America and whatnot, are really asking for this movie to fail at the box office, whether you believe that or not.

 

[FrostBite]

Listen EB. I don't want the whole bomb thing stucked in the movie... I just can't live with this stuff about Bruce testing the super soldier serum(or whatever it is) on himself, intentionally and... bam! Here's the Hulk!
This is from UU, and I hate UU, and in UU Bruce Banner is an as***le, Betty is a b**ch and the Hulk is a cannibal killer!
What I can't understand is: why they are trying to re-do the origin in a way that is a lot more far from the CB than that from the first one is. The biggest fans complaint with the first movie was that it ****ed up with origins... and now we go in a new, totally different way? It doesn't make sense for me...
I say, just let it in a doubt, is not necessary to explain everything... just set the story in a vague and "very artful" way. It is not so diffycult imo.-

I agree to an extent, as I do hate the Ultimate Version of the character... but because of the character not his origin.

An example is the DVD movies of "Ulimate Avengers" I thought they took 616 and Ultimate and blended it. He was still a bit crazed (Banner), but more so out of desperation. I felt sorry for him in the movie (and especially the second), DESPITE him causing his own transformation into the Hulk. Also, despite that they took the origin of Ultimate, they didn't make Hulk into some sex-crazed cannibal, which nearly made me puke in the comics. (At least I believe he was the cause of his own trasformation in these movies, it's been awhile so correct me if I am wrong, I'll willingly admit my mistake.)


If this movie can make me feel sorry for him, despite it being his own mistake like the cartoon, then bravo. I don't mind a mixing of the two, but I certainly don't want the sex-crazed Hulk or jacka** Bruce. But for some reason a serum doesn't make him any less of a victim, or make me feel any less sorry for him. He didn't have the intent of becoming a monster after all.

Take for example... Spider-man, it's his fault that his uncle died in the film. (Well, until the 3rd...) But did I feel any less sorry for him because he was to fault for his uncles demise? Not really. In fact it makes you feel more sorry for him, because why would I have cared if a crazed man just shot his uncle? (I never cared when Batman's parents died anyway.)

On the other hand, you and some others who hate the serum, are right about one big thing, that he ISN'T a hero anymore. Because he doesn't save someone in the begining. Bummer.

I'm still holding out to see if they were refering to his father, experimenting on himself when all "Hell broke lose." as it sounds nearly identical like the first movie, creating soldiers that could regenerate, time running out, the project closing down etc. Just sounds all to familiar, plus, gamma radiated blood... if it were only the serum, no gamma would be involved. So if he DID take the serum himself, he obviously had another accident that triggered the whole thing. *Cough* could still be gamma related accident *Cough*!

Remember, Blonsky DOESN'T transform because of the serum. Only when Bruce's blood is introduced... something else is there, and everyone is over looking it.

 

[James T. Kirk]

just set the story in a vague and "very artful" way.

Vague pisses a lot of people off.

 

[James T. Kirk]

All those saying and hoping that this movie will feel like a continuation of Ang's Hulk because of Banner being in South America and whatnot, are really asking for this movie to fail at the box office, whether you believe that or not.

At this point, it is sounding a lot like it's just a sequel.

 

[FrostBite]

Vague pisses a lot of people off.

Yeah but coming from someone who didn't even like the film, a lot of people are idiots.

 

[Sava]

lol....people need to relax, i'm sorry but the Gamma Bomb doesnt make the Hulk, as a character i mean, if there's no bomb, it doesnt mean thats not the real Hulk. I agree with EB on this, there are just being PC, you cant have one of the heroes of your movie working on creating something thats more powerful than an A-bomb. IMO, the serum is a substitute for genetic tampering from the first one, Bruce still needs Gamma stuff to turn into Hulk, like Abomb needs it at the end.

IMO, even though this movie seems to be soooooo different from what i was expecting, i think this'll be good/better than Ang's. Why?.... it seems to have everything that Ang's didnt and it seems to do eveything Ang did right too.

 

[James T. Kirk]

IMO, even though this movie seems to be soooooo different from what i was expecting, i think this'll be good/better than Ang's. Why?.... it seems to have everything that Ang's didnt and it seems to do eveything Ang did right too.

Thing is, a movie that's being promoted as a reboot is just basically turning out to be the Hulk's answer to Superman Returns, a vague semi-sequel that messes with the preceding continuity but doesn't really start everything afresh like Kevin Feige said.

 

[FrostBite]

lol....people need to relax, i'm sorry but the Gamma Bomb doesnt make the Hulk, as a character i mean, if there's no bomb, it doesnt mean thats not the real Hulk. I agree with EB on this, there are just being PC, you cant have one of the heroes of your movie working on creating something thats more powerful than an A-bomb. IMO, the serum is a substitute for genetic tampering from the first one, Bruce still needs Gamma stuff to turn into Hulk, like Abomb needs it at the end.

IMO, even though this movie seems to be soooooo different from what i was expecting, i think this'll be good/better than Ang's. Why?.... it seems to have everything that Ang's didnt and it seems to do eveything Ang did right too.

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH SAVA!?!?



But no, I totally agree about the gamma bomb thing, yes it's what we know, but it does not DEFINE the Hulk, it just does not flesh out the character.

 

[FrostBite]

Thing is, a movie that's being promoted as a reboot is just basically turning out to be the Hulk's answer to Superman Returns, a vague semi-sequel that messes with the preceding continuity but doesn't really start everything afresh like Kevin Feige said.

Yeah and Avi Arad said we'd see enough of Galactus, get over it, they lie.

 

[Sava]

Thing is, a movie that's being promoted as a reboot is just basically turning out to be the Hulk's answer to Superman Returns, a vague semi-sequel that messes with the preceding continuity but doesn't really start everything afresh like Kevin Feige said.

but thats the thing,its not a vague sequel. this is basically a new superhero movie that starts years AFTER the character turns into whatever the hell he is. Its like starting Spidey 1 after uncle Ben's death and going on from there. The only thing this movie has in connection with Ang's is Brazil. But, Brazil has been used in the comics way before too.

 

[Sava]

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH SAVA!?!?



But no, I totally agree about the gamma bomb thing, yes it's what we know, but it does not DEFINE the Hulk, it just does not flesh out the character.

lol, thank you. the G-bomb didnt create Hulk, it just gave him a way out. Bruce using himself as a test subject doesnt really have to mean he's a cocky prick, it could be that the guy is so into his work, he'll stop at nothing to get what he wants. Bruce WAS a prick in the first six issues of Stans Hulk. You really didnt feel sorry for him back then, i didnt anyway.

 

[James T. Kirk]

a new superhero movie that starts years AFTER the character turns into whatever the hell he is.

Great, a story without a beginning. I just love those. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait another 20 years for them to do the origin story right, .

 

[Ahura Mazda]

I voted not sure yet as noone can be sure until we see a bit more then just a script review of part of the movie. I do not like everything about it as it seems they could make several Abominations from what i read but then again I am only a spectator and not someone who is financing this movie so what do I know...

 

[Sava]

Great, a story without a beginning. I just love those. Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait another 20 years for them to do the origin story right, .

lol, this is where i respect ED for what he's doing, IMO, the story would be much more interesting, if you start it from 3, then go to 4 while at the same time showing/telling you what happened at 1 and 2. You will have a beginning, the movie just wont start there.

 

[YJ1]

An example is the DVD movies of "Ulimate Avengers" I thought they took 616 and Ultimate and blended it. He was still a bit crazed (Banner), but more so out of desperation. I felt sorry for him in the movie (and especially the second), DESPITE him causing his own transformation into the Hulk. Also, despite that they took the origin of Ultimate, they didn't make Hulk into some sex-crazed cannibal, which nearly made me puke in the comics. (At least I believe he was the cause of his own trasformation in these movies, it's been awhile so correct me if I am wrong, I'll willingly admit my mistake.)

If this movie can make me feel sorry for him, despite it being his own mistake like the cartoon, then bravo.

AMEN to that! This fanboy nitpicking at this stage is ridiculous, but what else is new?

 

[Hugebear]

IMO, even though this movie seems to be soooooo different from what i was expecting, i think this'll be good/better than Ang's. Why?.... it seems to have everything that Ang's didnt and it seems to do eveything Ang did right too.

Ang Lee’s Hulk was good, so naturally we want TIH to be as good or better. This movie has the Abomination, which is it's greatest addition.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

No, not really. I do believe you will go see it. Because think about it, you are a fan and look how loyal you are towards Ang Lee's version (which I thought was both good and bad). Example, I'm pretty sure you have a favorite team that you follow whether they are good or bad. Now you're loyal to your team and someone comes along and bashes your team. Now, I know people are intitled to speak their minds, but you defend your team regardless. That was my stance. Nothing personal, just a generalized statement. It doesn't mean it was targeted towards everyone, just those who are not Hulk fans and comment on the forum just to do so.

If the movie is ****, which it is looking to ME at the moment i wont be going to see it, just because i like or support something doesnt mean i will accept it when someone ****s about with and ruins it. I will always be a Hulk fan, but if i dont like the way they go with the movie, i dont want to waste the money I have worked hard to earn on going to see a ****ty movie.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Ang Lee’s Hulk was good, so naturally we want TIH to be as good or better. This movie has the Abomination, which is it's greatest addition.

I want nothing more for TIH to be better, but i just dont see why they cant make a movie that will please the majority of people, X2 did it, Spidey 2 did it and Batman Begins did it, it isnt that hard.