Script Rundown- Bigtime Spoilers

[Cracker Jack]

Cracker Jack: No, it wasn't implied. I assumpted this, but it's more hope than something solid. It came to mind only because Bruce's father did the exact same thing in Ang's flick. And things DID go to hell after that...

Hmmmm. Burce is doing exactely what his dad did in Angs movie. I just don't understand why they feel the need to have him part of a Super Serum experiment and inject himself. I guess I'm gona be waiting for a long time to see a Hulk movie done right.

 

[Gianakin_]

yes, but he was his moody/greedy/nutty father! Not him!

Yes, that's what I was saying to him: If in the synopsis Ross means that it was his father who did the experiments, a nod to Ang's Hulk, then it'll be ok for those of you who don't like this origin. If it's not, well, you have a negative point in this film for you.

 

[Cracker Jack]

F**k the ties with CAP! Is The Incredible Hulk just a secondary character? He has his own *super* elements, gamma rays and stuff like that... don't need any dumb super soldier serum or anything. Man-Thing is created by an iniection of the Super Soldier Serum, but he's another character(portrayed in another crappy movie).

Preach on brother Preach on.

 

[Gianakin_]

Hmmmm. Burce is doing exactely what his dad did in Angs movie. I just don't understand why they feel the need to have him part of a Super Serum experiment and inject himself. I guess I'm gona be waiting for a long time to see a Hulk movie done right.

I get a feeling that I didn't phrase my point well here, let me make sure: I said that I hope the synopsis means Robert Banner, not Bruce, who did self-experiments. You understood that was what I was saying, right?

 

[Juggernaut33]

Hmmmm. Burce is doing exactely what his dad did in Angs movie. I just don't understand why they feel the need to have him part of a Super Serum experiment and inject himself. I guess I'm gona be waiting for a long time to see a Hulk movie done right.

Pfff, all that just for a small detail. What would be your perfect origin story? The guy takes a gamma bomb in the face and turns into a big green monster. Gimme a break!

 

[YJ1]

I just don't want him to experimentating it on himself... this made him too close to Emil Blonsky. The Hulk has to be a total curse for Bruce Banner, not something that him intentionally caused, just an unexpected and accidental consequence of his work and his unconditional, heroic nature(he saved Rick Jones, or "Harper" of the first movie, do you remember?).

Bruce was nothing but a moody victim in the first film. There was little to nothing heroic about him. That was one of Ang's huge flaws and part of why general audiences hated the movie. Changing the origin from his father's experimentation to his own makes for deeper pathos and emotional development. It's masterful. Without retelling and re-shooting an origin, how else would they pull that off? I can't wait for this movie!

There is good news for fans of the Big Green Guy this time around, Edward Norton definitely gets it. His draft of The Incredible Hulk dated 5-13-07 is an incredible ride and will attract both fans and non-fans alike.

It’s two (make that 100) steps ahead of the 2003 edition.

That's GREAT to hear!

 

[James T. Kirk]

Is this movie a reboot or not? Are we gonna see the origin of the Hulk at all? Or are they just gonna subtly refer to it in dialogue?

 

[Cracker Jack]

Pfff, all that just for a small detail. What would be your perfect origin story? The guy takes a gamma bomb in the face and turns into a big green monster. Gimme a break!

A small detail. LOL. Sorry if you don't like one of the most classic origins in comic hystory.

 

[SpaghettiHULK]

Bruce was nothing but a moody victim in the first film.

a victim that saves a life sacrificing himself...
Not a scientist who test on himself a serum... this is just what Emil Blonsky should do.

 

[Juggernaut33]

A small detail. LOL. Sorry if you don't like one of the most classic origins in comic hystory.

No, it is a lame origin story. Stan Lee admitted it. "The guy has to turn into the Hulk well let's just put a gamma bomb. Now I wouldn't know the difference between a microwave and a gamma bomb...but it sounded quite good". Nowadays, you can't get away with that.

Plus, is it such a crime to trick the origin story a bit to make it more interesting and more grounded?

 

[Gianakin_]

No, it is a lame origin story. Stan Lee admitted it. "The guy has to turn into the Hulk well let's just put a gamma bomb. Now I wouldn't know the difference between a microwave and a gamma bomb...but it sounded quite good". Nowadays, you can't get away with that.

Plus, is it such a crime to trick the origin story a bit to make it more interesting and more grounded?

What he argues, I think, is that the classic origin says he accidentally became the Hulk, like an external curse. In this one, he's like Nick Nolte in Ang's Hulk, he does it on himself.
Which is an interesting argument IMO.

But I agree that most of the Marvel origins of old are very silly. Classic, but silly, IMO (or "silly, but classic", if you want to see the glass as half-full).

 

[Octoberist]

maybe it was just me, or I didn't see anything about the Leader in the review.

 

[Gianakin_]

He's Dr. Sterns aka Mr. Blue. He essentially manipulates Brue. He's just not the leader yet. Brilliant set up, he is basically but effectively fleshed out in this one, so that he'll be ready for a possible no2.

Let me add here, that while the whole "Only Bruce can stop Blonsky" thing may seem a bit un-Hulk, I think it gives an epic feeling to the final battle. Like Sly Stalone said in Demolition Man: "Send a maniac to catch a maniac", plus it gives Bruce the ultimate sacrifice. It seems like a part-2-of-superhero-films cliche, but the Hulk is really a curse, not a choice.

 

[Figs]

Out of the two sites that posted the spoilers in the article on the front page I read the second choice, not Latino Reviews. I don't know if they differ but a lot of people seem to be jumping to conclusions about the whole serum thing. In the spoilers I read, it has nothing to do with his original creation/incident. It's Banner(who is a scientist, remember?) looking for a serum that can be a "Cure".

They never said he became the Hulk because of a serum or something in a vial, I find it funny how some fanboys don't fully read but skim things then jump to conclusions. It actually makes perfect sense for him to be looking/making a cure. Unless I misread something I don't recall it anywhere saying he originally turned into the Hulk because of a "potion" or anything like that.

 

[Cracker Jack]

Nowadays, you can't get away with that.

Say who? You? I think it could be done and would blow people away.

Plus, is it such a crime to trick the origin story a bit to make it more interesting and more grounded?

Grounded in what? No, it no crime to "trick" the origin a bit but this is not a bit. This is contray to who and what Banner and the Hulk are.

 

[Gianakin_]

Out of the two sites that posted the spoilers in the article on the front page I read the second choice, not Latino Reviews. I don't know if they differ but a lot of people seem to be jumping to conclusions about the whole serum thing. In the spoilers I read, it has nothing to do with his original creation/incident. It's Banner(who is a scientist, remember?) looking for a serum that can be a "Cure".

They never said he became the Hulk because of a serum or something in a vial, I find it funny how some fanboys don't fully read but skim things then jump to conclusions. It actually makes perfect sense for him to be looking/making a cure. Unless I misread something I don't recall it anywhere saying he originally turned into the Hulk because of a "potion" or anything like that.

No, if you read the 1st post of this thread (the Latino Review article), it says about a super soldier serum in a project that Banner (father? son?) participated in and took it himself.

 

[TheSlag]

Out of the two sites that posted the spoilers in the article on the front page I read the second choice, not Latino Reviews. I don't know if they differ but a lot of people seem to be jumping to conclusions about the whole serum thing. In the spoilers I read, it has nothing to do with his original creation/incident. It's Banner(who is a scientist, remember?) looking for a serum that can be a "Cure".

They never said he became the Hulk because of a serum or something in a vial, I find it funny how some fanboys don't fully read but skim things then jump to conclusions. It actually makes perfect sense for him to be looking/making a cure. Unless I misread something I don't recall it anywhere saying he originally turned into the Hulk because of a "potion" or anything like that.

From Latino Review

"Ross explains that Banner was part of an early experiment to create super soldier serum, but the funding was running out. In the eleventh hour of the project, Banner was so certain of his research that he tested it on himself – that’s when everything went to hell."

Now, whether Ross is telling the truth or not, or simply trying to lure Blonsky in, is another point that could be argued. I think that "will" be the storyline, and I'm OK with that if it is.

 

[Advanced Dark]

So perhaps the serum was something that the gamma triggered or combined with to create what he becomes. The first film almost suggested he was a latent mutant.

 

[Figs]

From Latino Review

"Ross explains that Banner was part of an early experiment to create super soldier serum, but the funding was running out. In the eleventh hour of the project, Banner was so certain of his research that he tested it on himself – that’s when everything went to hell."

Now, whether Ross is telling the truth or not, or simply trying to lure Blonsky in, is another point that could be argued. I think that "will" be the storyline, and I'm OK with that if it is.

No, if you read the 1st post of this thread (the Latino Review article), it says about a super soldier serum in a project that Banner (father? son?) participated in and took it himself.

Like I said, I didn't bother to read Latino Review's review.....mainly because it's Latino Review lol. I would take some of the specific details with a grain of salt. They have said that Norton on set is always doing small rewrites as he goes. I doubt he would let "his" final script out.

 

[TheSlag]

Like I said, I only didn't bother to read Latino Review's review.....mainly because it's Latino Review lol. I would take some of the specific details with a grain of salt. They have said that Norton on set is always doing small rewrites as he goes. I doubt he would let "his" final script out.

Obviously, everything could/can change from an early version of the script to the shooting script.

 

[Gianakin_]

Like I said, I didn't bother to read Latino Review's review.....mainly because it's Latino Review lol. I would take some of the specific details with a grain of salt. They have said that Norton on set is always doing small rewrites as he goes. I doubt he would let "his" final script out.

Of course, it is, after all, the 1st Norton draft. But I doubt thins will change a lot. I honestly can't tell right now.

 

[Gianakin_]

So perhaps the serum was something that the gamma triggered or combined with to create what he becomes. The first film almost suggested he was a latent mutant.

That seems to be the hot topic, but if you take the synopsis literally and assume there's no other info, then he injects himself and becomes the Hulk. I don't think this is it, though. Nothing solid, just a gut feeling.

 

[Advanced Dark]

This is Zak Penn's script modified by Ed Norton and I seriously doubt he structually changed a thing because the same storyline seems to be intact. I think Marvel was afraid of the negativity associated w/Zak so they had Norton kind of seemingly dilute it by adding his name to it. As much as some of you don't like Zak...it's pretty obvious he did write a great script.

 

[Advanced Dark]

That seems to be the hot topic, but if you take the synopsis literally and assume there's no other info, then he injects himself and becomes the Hulk. I don't think this is it, though. Nothing solid, just a gut feeling.

The synopsis on the official site says:

"...hunting down the cure to the gamma radiation that poisoned his cells and unleashes the unbridled rage within him..."

 

[Cracker Jack]

Now, whether Ross is telling the truth or not, or simply trying to lure Blonsky in, is another point that could be argued. I think that "will" be the storyline, and I'm OK with that if it is.

I'd be ok if he were lying, trying to lure Blonsky into taking the serum