Neither show improved Eddie Brock/Venom for the better, although I prefer the 90s Eddie Brock because he's not annoying as hell. Eddie Brock still seems like a character especially created so we can see him change into Venom. Never bought the TWO BROS between Peter and Eddie. Seems hokey. I hated the entire Venom story arc in SSM, it was like a retelling of the 90s arc, complete with making the symbiote turning Peter's personality to the darkside.
Gwen and Harry bores the hell out of me, especially Gwen. She's a frumpy geek. It's like I'm watching 5th graders have a conversation of which nothing interests me. If they take this approach to the characters, we're going to see yet another reboot swiftly down the line. I'd much rather they use the characterization and relation type from the comics (60s-80s) for Gwen, MJ and Harry and of course Peter--when any movie is concerned.
I don't find Tombstone compelling as a fake Kingpin. Nor do I want to see this on film. We get it, Marvel doesn't have the rights to Kingpin, stop recreating him in other characters. Yet another problem the movie has, combining two characters into one. Why the hell would I want to see this again done so horribly wrong?
Yeah, I'm knocking the visuals because it's a cartoon, it's the first thing that people notice, its where the visual style of the show comes from, but I have other issues with the show besides its down-syndrome looking characters.
Compressing Story Arcs: This is what most cartoons shows do based on comic books, compressed story arcs, which usually cuts out the really good stuff to make up time for a half hour time slot. You speak as if it's something new. The X-Men cartoon did this, but 10 times better than anything in SSM, and written a hell of a lot better too.
The thing is, you have to like the way it's structured, I don't. I hate that Doc Ock is apart of the creation of both Sandman and The Rhino, all origins looped into the same place. The same thing can be said of The Lizard and Electro. I mean, what are the freakin' odds? And the asinine excuse that these villains are being released to keep Spider-Man busy, how many times have seen this silly little ploy of bad writing? It's typical cartoon stuff here, that Spider-Man should be above after several successful animated series.
I don't like The Enforcers, because they just come off like every other idiotic bunch of thugs in animation. They're organization is hokey, much like this series. You don't feel that they present a threat, maybe because they shoot pretty pink lasers out of their guns. Speaking of guns, I can't believe they're using those damn colorful lasers instead of real guns again (see Batman's animated series to show you how it's done, right!) I was turned off by this, because it reminded me so much of the 90s series mistakes. Not to mention the rushed story-telling, just like the 90s series, as well (watch Batman:TAS or Avatar:TLA to see how timing is done right). Turning Kraven into a freakin' monster the very first time we see him, couldn't they at least wait until the 4th or 5th season, oh wait, the show didn't last that long. I wonder why...
I am indeed saying that the format to SSM would ruining the movies. And why do you people keep saying the current comic books, we know they shouldn't be using that, it's poorly written. There's still decades (60s-80s) of other great stories and characterizations that the reboot should take advantage of--Death of Gwen Stacy, Master Planner or Kraven's Last Hunt.
This show is only a great template if you like the show, I don't, and if people did, they would have actually continued to watch it--and you'd be waiting for the next season. It offers nothing new. I don't find anything dramatic or original about it, it borrows from the 90s series and the movies. Give me something that does neither. Like that great Spider-Man movie that I know will happen some day, I'm still waiting for that great animated series, as well. SSM isn't it.
With that said, keep all animated series ideas away from the movie/reboot, and keep your damn head in the comics where Stan Lee created Spider-Man.
Gwen and Harry bores the hell out of me, especially Gwen. She's a frumpy geek. It's like I'm watching 5th graders have a conversation of which nothing interests me. If they take this approach to the characters, we're going to see yet another reboot swiftly down the line. I'd much rather they use the characterization and relation type from the comics (60s-80s) for Gwen, MJ and Harry and of course Peter--when any movie is concerned.
I don't find Tombstone compelling as a fake Kingpin. Nor do I want to see this on film. We get it, Marvel doesn't have the rights to Kingpin, stop recreating him in other characters. Yet another problem the movie has, combining two characters into one. Why the hell would I want to see this again done so horribly wrong?
Yeah, I'm knocking the visuals because it's a cartoon, it's the first thing that people notice, its where the visual style of the show comes from, but I have other issues with the show besides its down-syndrome looking characters.
Compressing Story Arcs: This is what most cartoons shows do based on comic books, compressed story arcs, which usually cuts out the really good stuff to make up time for a half hour time slot. You speak as if it's something new. The X-Men cartoon did this, but 10 times better than anything in SSM, and written a hell of a lot better too.
The thing is, you have to like the way it's structured, I don't. I hate that Doc Ock is apart of the creation of both Sandman and The Rhino, all origins looped into the same place. The same thing can be said of The Lizard and Electro. I mean, what are the freakin' odds? And the asinine excuse that these villains are being released to keep Spider-Man busy, how many times have seen this silly little ploy of bad writing? It's typical cartoon stuff here, that Spider-Man should be above after several successful animated series.
I don't like The Enforcers, because they just come off like every other idiotic bunch of thugs in animation. They're organization is hokey, much like this series. You don't feel that they present a threat, maybe because they shoot pretty pink lasers out of their guns. Speaking of guns, I can't believe they're using those damn colorful lasers instead of real guns again (see Batman's animated series to show you how it's done, right!) I was turned off by this, because it reminded me so much of the 90s series mistakes. Not to mention the rushed story-telling, just like the 90s series, as well (watch Batman:TAS or Avatar:TLA to see how timing is done right). Turning Kraven into a freakin' monster the very first time we see him, couldn't they at least wait until the 4th or 5th season, oh wait, the show didn't last that long. I wonder why...
I am indeed saying that the format to SSM would ruining the movies. And why do you people keep saying the current comic books, we know they shouldn't be using that, it's poorly written. There's still decades (60s-80s) of other great stories and characterizations that the reboot should take advantage of--Death of Gwen Stacy, Master Planner or Kraven's Last Hunt.
This show is only a great template if you like the show, I don't, and if people did, they would have actually continued to watch it--and you'd be waiting for the next season. It offers nothing new. I don't find anything dramatic or original about it, it borrows from the 90s series and the movies. Give me something that does neither. Like that great Spider-Man movie that I know will happen some day, I'm still waiting for that great animated series, as well. SSM isn't it.
With that said, keep all animated series ideas away from the movie/reboot, and keep your damn head in the comics where Stan Lee created Spider-Man.
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my point is that they should take the good stuff from different incarnations and combine them into an awesome package
