Silent Hill: Revelations

[Roose Bolton]

Hideo Kojima said that he'd like to work on a Silent Hill game one day. Expect significant levels of awesomeness.

 

[Piper Maru]

The first 3 Silent Hill games are my definite favorites and I would love to see the series reach a new level of awesomeness.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Everyone kind of gives 4 a lot of crap, but you know i'd love a standalone sequel based on 4. 4 may have had weaker play than the others, but I think it was quite creepy itself and would make for an actually scary film.

 

[Piper Maru]

For me it's a love/hate thing with Silent Hill 4: The Room. I thought the sequels after it were okay, but nowhere near the level of the first three games.

 

[Rodrigo90]

4 originally wasn't supposed to be a Silent Hill game. I think Konami forced Team Silent to rush that game after the success of 3, and slap the name SH onto it.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Yeah it's better viewed as it's own thing.

 

[Naked Shia]

That's interesting. Because I'm in the middle of writing SH fan fiction. It starts out in the 1800's, and the charcter is a murderer who wakes up in Toluca Prison, waiting to be executed by the PH's. He escapes the prison however. The story then cuts to the present, and his great, great grandson visits Silent Hill and has to pay for his grandfather's sins. So PH will be haunting him, because even though the character doesn't know about SH's history, he is receiving memories from his ancestor. But of course there's the twist at the end

Interesting. I want to write a fan fiction about Silent Hill as well. I'm looking forward for yours!

I think Konami needs to pull a Resident Evil 4 to save the franchise.

The first 3 Silent Hill games are my definite favorites and I would love to see the series reach a new level of awesomeness.

They already did. Not only was shattered memories really different of the other games, but it was nothing short of brilliant. The story was moving and well written, the settings were moody and depressing, and the gameplay, while flawed, was interesting. It's an awesome game, and a great addition to the saga, even if it's non cannon.

Hideo Kojima said that he'd like to work on a Silent Hill game one day. Expect significant levels of awesomeness.

That's not what he said. He said a Silent Hill game would be great with the new fox engine.

4 originally wasn't supposed to be a Silent Hill game. I think Konami forced Team Silent to rush that game after the success of 3, and slap the name SH onto it.

That's an urban legend. a lot of people think it wasn't supposed to be a silent hill game, but it seems it was since day 1. I love this game. It introduced me to the mythos. and I think it's an interesting addition to the mythos.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Well he was damned right, that lovely engine could make for one helluva scary game.

 

[Naked Shia]

I would definitely be happy

 

[Rodrigo90]

Interesting. I want to write a fan fiction about Silent Hill as well. I'm looking forward for yours!

It's fun, but challenging lol. What I think they try to recreate in the games is that aspect first introduced in Silent Hill 2, the symbolism and viewers interpretation of what they're looking at. So I've followed as closely as I can to the first 4 games. When I'm writing the details in the story, I stop and think hard about what I'm going to describe, and not only that, describe it in a way that makes the reader think, like the games would. So from the character's perspective, I describe what they're seeing and their feelings regarding it.

The story I'm writing changes from 3rd person in the past, to 1st person in the present.

For example, this is an excerpt from the character from the past and his story -
"As he was dragged from his cell, the thoughts of his looming death raced through his mind, blotting out the screams and taunts from the damned. If he were to die this way, what would be awaiting him? Would it be God and Her sanctuary of eternal paradise, having been forgiven for his evil acts in life? Of course not. It would only be the Devil and His Kingdom of Hell, welcoming him with open arms for being his servant. But what if he refused to venture towards his fate? What if he were to escape it? What if he were to die this way and not be taken to his new eternal home? Wonder the Earth in purgatory was certainly a comforting thought. Or, even as he was drawing closer to the executioners and their fair hands of justice, what if were to escape his death at this very moment? That was his plan now...to escape it all."

So this is an old fashioned and deep thinker, named Thomas Smith. He knows about and believes in Silent Hill's God. He knows about the Pyramid Head's, which I've only described at this point as 'the executioners'. He's a character who fears death and doesn't want to go to Hell for his crimes, so he fears if he dies at their hands this way, he's going to be dragged down. But if he escapes his execution and dies another way, he will remain forever in purgatory, which he prefers the idea of.

Now his descendant, he knows nothing about Silent Hill, he doesn't understand it. And since he is more pure minded than his ancestor, his thoughts are more primal fear and confusion, nothing really straight. I'm trying to give the reader an uncomfortable feeling that he's about to go insane or die from fright any second lol
Cause the thing I picked up on in Downpour, is that Murphy Pendelton becomes terrified and he has fear in his face. Other characters, obviously being PS2 and all, don't show their fear or anything. Like they're OK with what's going on.
So I based Grant, simply on Murphy's fearful reaction to Silent Hill. Even in the writing, Murphy is the most realisitic written person imo.

So this is the difference with Grant. This is the scene where he shifts into the Otherworld of the Lakeview Hotel (which has been repaired now after SH2 )

"I dropped to the floor in agony, screaming and crying. The pain in my head was unbearable, like my brain was trying to break out of my skull. The room then began to fill with horrific sounds, sounds I couldn't describe in a million years. They grew louder and louder, so I covered my ears, but the sounds were not from the outside, but in my head. I was scared...I closed my eyes and thought I was going to die. Then was it my life flashing before me? I saw images of my parents, my family and friends. Their faces and bodies twisting and contorting, being replaced by the sight of grotesque creatures. Even though I felt I was dying, I had to open my eyes to escape the horror of what I was seeing in my head...My eyes couldn't have been open though. Because what I saw next was what you can only surely see from your eyes being closed, in a nightmare, or a delusion, right before you die. The Hotel room around me began to slowly change and melt away...Surely, I had died and gone to Hell?"

So that's that part But if you notice the writing, which I'm trying to keep consistent. Thomas is a man who feared going to Hell for his crimes, so his thoughts and feelings of Hell have passed on to Grant. The Otherworld has taken the theme of Thomas' idea of what Hell will be for him. I thought it would be fun to explore what Hell would actually be like in Silent Hill, since even though every game sure looks like it, it's not lol
And of course, there will be a main monster who will be referred to as the "Devil", which will be interesting, as it's all part of Thomas' mind

That's an urban legend. a lot of people think it wasn't supposed to be a silent hill game, but it seems it was since day 1. I love this game. It introduced me to the mythos. and I think it's an interesting addition to the mythos.

Yeah, I liked it really. It's the most terrifying one imo.

I was thinking on what they could do for the future. Wouldn't it be cool if we had a character like Tim Burton in Silent Hill? Some creepy artist or visionary who has all his crazy ideas come to life? lol

 

[gkokujin]

the commercials for this have been garbage.

its like they are marketing it as something other than horror.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I love the Devil's Laughter music from SM at the end of the trailer.

 

[Naked Shia]

It's fun, but challenging lol. What I think they try to recreate in the games is that aspect first introduced in Silent Hill 2, the symbolism and viewers interpretation of what they're looking at. So I've followed as closely as I can to the first 4 games. When I'm writing the details in the story, I stop and think hard about what I'm going to describe, and not only that, describe it in a way that makes the reader think, like the games would. So from the character's perspective, I describe what they're seeing and their feelings regarding it.

The story I'm writing changes from 3rd person in the past, to 1st person in the present.

For example, this is an excerpt from the character from the past and his story -
"As he was dragged from his cell, the thoughts of his looming death raced through his mind, blotting out the screams and taunts from the damned. If he were to die this way, what would be awaiting him? Would it be God and Her sanctuary of eternal paradise, having been forgiven for his evil acts in life? Of course not. It would only be the Devil and His Kingdom of Hell, welcoming him with open arms for being his servant. But what if he refused to venture towards his fate? What if he were to escape it? What if he were to die this way and not be taken to his new eternal home? Wonder the Earth in purgatory was certainly a comforting thought. Or, even as he was drawing closer to the executioners and their fair hands of justice, what if were to escape his death at this very moment? That was his plan now...to escape it all."

So this is an old fashioned and deep thinker, named Thomas Smith. He knows about and believes in Silent Hill's God. He knows about the Pyramid Head's, which I've only described at this point as 'the executioners'. He's a character who fears death and doesn't want to go to Hell for his crimes, so he fears if he dies at their hands this way, he's going to be dragged down. But if he escapes his execution and dies another way, he will remain forever in purgatory, which he prefers the idea of.

Now his descendant, he knows nothing about Silent Hill, he doesn't understand it. And since he is more pure minded than his ancestor, his thoughts are more primal fear and confusion, nothing really straight. I'm trying to give the reader an uncomfortable feeling that he's about to go insane or die from fright any second lol
Cause the thing I picked up on in Downpour, is that Murphy Pendelton becomes terrified and he has fear in his face. Other characters, obviously being PS2 and all, don't show their fear or anything. Like they're OK with what's going on.
So I based Grant, simply on Murphy's fearful reaction to Silent Hill. Even in the writing, Murphy is the most realisitic written person imo.

So this is the difference with Grant. This is the scene where he shifts into the Otherworld of the Lakeview Hotel (which has been repaired now after SH2 )

"I dropped to the floor in agony, screaming and crying. The pain in my head was unbearable, like my brain was trying to break out of my skull. The room then began to fill with horrific sounds, sounds I couldn't describe in a million years. They grew louder and louder, so I covered my ears, but the sounds were not from the outside, but in my head. I was scared...I closed my eyes and thought I was going to die. Then was it my life flashing before me? I saw images of my parents, my family and friends. Their faces and bodies twisting and contorting, being replaced by the sight of grotesque creatures. Even though I felt I was dying, I had to open my eyes to escape the horror of what I was seeing in my head...My eyes couldn't have been open though. Because what I saw next was what you can only surely see from your eyes being closed, in a nightmare, or a delusion, right before you die. The Hotel room around me began to slowly change and melt away...Surely, I had died and gone to Hell?"

So that's that part But if you notice the writing, which I'm trying to keep consistent. Thomas is a man who feared going to Hell for his crimes, so his thoughts and feelings of Hell have passed on to Grant. The Otherworld has taken the theme of Thomas' idea of what Hell will be for him. I thought it would be fun to explore what Hell would actually be like in Silent Hill, since even though every game sure looks like it, it's not lol
And of course, there will be a main monster who will be referred to as the "Devil", which will be interesting, as it's all part of Thomas' mind

Yeah, I liked it really. It's the most terrifying one imo.

I was thinking on what they could do for the future. Wouldn't it be cool if we had a character like Tim Burton in Silent Hill? Some creepy artist or visionary who has all his crazy ideas come to life? lol

IMO, what you're doing seems really interesting. I like the change of perspective. I was just wondering: did you try to write the stuff in present day, in present form? Maybe it would be more frightening? But still, I do like what you show us! Makes me want to read the whole story!

Tim Burton wouldn't be lost in Silent Hill, he would be right at home haha!

 

[Naked Shia]

Hideo Kojima is open to reviving Policenauts, Snatcher as well as lending a hand to a new Silent Hill game - though it's unlikely he'd be able to take a direct role in any of the projects himself.

...

Kojima also spoke about potentially getting involved with the Silent Hill series - a subject he expressed interest in via Twitter earlier this year.

"In the past I've mentioned Silent Hill in interviews, and as a result of that the president of Konami rung me up and said he'd like me to make the next Silent Hill," Kojima revealed today.

"Honestly, I'm kind of a scaredy-cat when it comes to horror movies, so I'm not confident I can do it. At the same time, there's a certain type of horror that only people who are scared of can create, so maybe it's something I can do.

"That said, I think Silent Hill has a certain atmosphere. I think it has to continue, and I'd love to help it continue, and if I can help by supervising or lending the technology of the Fox Engine, then I'd love to participate in that respect."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...and-a-metal-gear-jrpg-an-audience-with-kojima

 

[Roose Bolton]

Seeeeeeee! It'd be awesome

 

[Piper Maru]

I would very much like to see Hideo Kojima have some part in the next Silent Hill game! Also, if another Silent Hill movie gets made after Revelations, then I would love to see Guilmerro Del Toro's take on it.

 

[Rodrigo90]

IMO, what you're doing seems really interesting. I like the change of perspective. I was just wondering: did you try to write the stuff in present day, in present form? Maybe it would be more frightening? But still, I do like what you show us! Makes me want to read the whole story!

Tim Burton wouldn't be lost in Silent Hill, he would be right at home haha!

Thanks man

I did try to write it in the present, at that very moment, as if it was unfolding right in front of the characters eyes. But I just couldn't do it lol. It was slowing the pace of the storytelling

 

[Naked Shia]

Thanks man

I did try to write it in the present, at that very moment, as if it was unfolding right in front of the characters eyes. But I just couldn't do it lol. It was slowing the pace of the storytelling

I understand your point. I can't wait to read the whole story!

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The movie looks like hot **** but I'll probably end up seeing it because I have great affection for the first 3 video games.

 

[<(o_o)>]

The lead girl kinda looks just like Michelle Williams in the trailer/tv spots.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

What are my options if I want to play the games, starting with the first one? I should prolly buy a ps2 right?

 

[Angel_Faerie]

Yeah

 

[TheDreamMaster]

What are my options if I want to play the games, starting with the first one? I should prolly buy a ps2 right?

That'd be a decent idea, but first, do you have a PS3? If so your options are not as limited. The first game is on the PS Network store. SH 2 and 3 were released as an HD collection this year that garnered mixed reviews, but a major patch came out for the PS3 version only that fixed a multitude of problems. SH 4 is a problem, as I have no idea if it has made its way to the PS2 Classics line on the Network store or not, so for now PS 2 seems th only option. SH: 0rigins does have a PS2 version, however you can play it on PSP. Likewaise, SH: Shattered Memories (which is not a main game, instead a reinagining, but not a remake at all, of the first game) is on the Wii, but has a PSP release that was fantastic. Laslty, Homecoming and Downpour were next gen titles, so both are available on PS3 or Xbox 360, whatever you choose.

Although this post has run too long already, a lot of people may tell you SH 4 is skippable based on it being the hardest to find, but truly it is a fantastic game worth playing, and I'd hope you track it down and play it. Some of the games do relate, and some have connections that might help understand the story a little better.

SH3 is a direct sequel to the original game.
SH4 expands upon the story of a murderer mentioned in notes in SH 2.
0rigins is a direct prequel to the original game.
Homecoming uses the cult prominent in 0/1/3 but isn't a direct sequel.
Downpour has references to all past games, but has no single connection.
Shattered Memories is not a main series game, but a fantastic reimagining.

 

[gkokujin]

I love when a japanese artists says "i wasn't sure if i can do it" because that usually means he's going to knock it out the freaking park.

 

[Naked Shia]

That'd be a decent idea, but first, do you have a PS3? If so your options are not as limited. The first game is on the PS Network store. SH 2 and 3 were released as an HD collection this year that garnered mixed reviews, but a major patch came out for the PS3 version only that fixed a multitude of problems. SH 4 is a problem, as I have no idea if it has made its way to the PS2 Classics line on the Network store or not, so for now PS 2 seems th only option. SH: 0rigins does have a PS2 version, however you can play it on PSP. Likewaise, SH: Shattered Memories (which is not a main game, instead a reinagining, but not a remake at all, of the first game) is on the Wii, but has a PSP release that was fantastic. Laslty, Homecoming and Downpour were next gen titles, so both are available on PS3 or Xbox 360, whatever you choose.

Although this post has run too long already, a lot of people may tell you SH 4 is skippable based on it being the hardest to find, but truly it is a fantastic game worth playing, and I'd hope you track it down and play it. Some of the games do relate, and some have connections that might help understand the story a little better.

SH3 is a direct sequel to the original game.
SH4 expands upon the story of a murderer mentioned in notes in SH 2.
0rigins is a direct prequel to the original game.
Homecoming uses the cult prominent in 0/1/3 but isn't a direct sequel.
Downpour has references to all past games, but has no single connection.
Shattered Memories is not a main series game, but a fantastic reimagining.

SH4 is awesome.