Silent Hill: Revelations

[Gianakin_]

He was found innocent though, no?

 

[psylockolussus]

I just watched the trailer, it was just alright. Not scary and not exciting. But I hope its better than the 1st movie.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Some of the graphics are of questionable quality.

Still, I enjoyed the first one enough. I really need to find a way to play through the games.

 

[HopeOfTheFuture]

Well that's kind of stupid. Are they gonna explain what happened to her mother in the first movie throughout this one? Or is it gonna be explained in passing dialogue?

One of the first released images showed the mother Rose and Heather, so they will explain more of it:

http://www.spotlighttv.nl/spotlight/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/silent-hill-revelation-3d.jpg

 

[Majik1387]

Nice, thanks.

 

[Destructus86]

Gotta say...this movie looks fun. I'm looking forward to it!

 

[Naked Shia]

Can't wait to see it.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

This was what was wrong with the first movie:

1. A large amount of people in the town. Silent Hill is supposed to be a lonesome, isolated place with few people. And yet in the first movie there was at least a couple hundred people there at the end. In the first game, there were 4-5 characters in the entire game that weren't monsters. That was it.

2. A sympathetic Dahlia. In the games she is a cruel, heartless *****. And yet in the first film they painted her as an innocent woman who loved her daughter. Dahlia did NOT love Alessa. Alessa was just a pawn to her.

3. Changing Cheryl's name to Sharon. Just a pointless change.

3. Making the main character in the first movie a woman. The first movie was an adaptation of the first game, whose protagonist was a man. I could have been "meh" about this, but then they added the whole "father on the outside trying to figure out what's going on" thing. Why didn't they just have Sean Bean be the main character, and get rid of the annoying subplot that removes the tension? I sort of liked the "Mother is God in the eyes of a child" theme they had going, but really, it wasn't needed.

4. Pyramid Head. He didn't need to be there. He shouldn't have been there. He was a manifestation of the guilt of the main character, James, and his subconscious desire to be punished for what he did (though he doesn't remember what he did till later). This leads me into:

5. Sexy nurses. Those did not belong there. They were a symbol of the sexual frustration James felt when his now-dead wife, Mary, was ill and in the hospital. No need for them to be there.

6. My biggest problem with the movie hands down: WITCH. BURNING. There was none of that **** in the game. At. All. They didn't need to add that crap to the cult and their beliefs. It was all about resurrecting their god using Alessa's psychic gifts.

Here's what seems to be wrong with the sequel

1. Why the hell is Vincent a teenager and obvious love interest for Heather? In the third game, which this movie is based off of, Vincent is a late 20's early 30's priest for the cult and a scholar. He's brilliant, and a bit of a trickster. You're never sure who's side he's on. Heather's, or the cult's. And yet in the film all of that is most likely gone just for Heather to have a love interest that was non-existent in the game.

2. Pyramid Head. Again.

3. Sexy nurses. Again.

4. Set pictures (and quick glimpses in the trailer) show the witch burning ****. Again.

Actually, I can disprove several of your points with info from the games.

1. I'll give you this, I didn't like the idea that this Silent Hill's cult was so big, and basically a Christian off-shoot. Part of the reason I'm not a fan of Homecoming, I hated fighting actual cult members.

2. This goes along with the cult thing for me, its a different take. I think Claudia in the sequel will be what Dahlia would be had they followed the original game closer.

3 Part 1 and 2. I don't care for the Sharon/Cheryl change, but I'm not complaining. As for Rose versus Harry, I don't mind the change because the director wanted to do it with a strong female protagonist. And Rose was well done. For reference on how not to do some female characters, suggest watching a video by The Nostalgia Chick about female superhero movies.

4. Silent Hill 2 suggested PH was manifested in the image of the executioners of Old Silent Hill, in times long ago. If that is the case, couldn't he well be a manifestation of that as well, someone instead attempting to judge the cult rather than a single man. So I really see no reason to dwell on this fact. Yes, PH was total fansevrvice, but I don't hate his prescence.

5. There were sexy nurses in Silent Hill 3, and that had nothing to do with James. I actually believe they have something to do with Lisa, and the Alessa after being burned experiencing jealousy over her beauty.

6. This I do agree with. The witch burning cult sucked, which I hope gets rectified in the sequel. I see it as the other cult recognizes Alessa for her powers, and believes she can birth their God, versus the stupid witch hating cukt,

As for your sequel concerns:
1.Eh, its a change to Vincent but the Nurse clip suggests he is hiding something.

2 and 3: See above.

4. See my hopes for the sequel above, but as a sequel, they cant pretend the witch stuff never happened.

 

[Angel_Faerie]

Actually, I can disprove several of your points with info from the games.

1. I'll give you this, I didn't like the idea that this Silent Hill's cult was so big, and basically a Christian off-shoot. Part of the reason I'm not a fan of Homecoming, I hated fighting actual cult members.

2. This goes along with the cult thing for me, its a different take. I think Claudia in the sequel will be what Dahlia would be had they followed the original game closer.

3 Part 1 and 2. I don't care for the Sharon/Cheryl change, but I'm not complaining. As for Rose versus Harry, I don't mind the change because the director wanted to do it with a strong female protagonist. And Rose was well done. For reference on how not to do some female characters, suggest watching a video by The Nostalgia Chick about female superhero movies.

4. Silent Hill 2 suggested PH was manifested in the image of the executioners of Old Silent Hill, in times long ago. If that is the case, couldn't he well be a manifestation of that as well, someone instead attempting to judge the cult rather than a single man. So I really see no reason to dwell on this fact. Yes, PH was total fansevrvice, but I don't hate his prescence.

5. There were sexy nurses in Silent Hill 3, and that had nothing to do with James. I actually believe they have something to do with Lisa, and the Alessa after being burned experiencing jealousy over her beauty.

6. This I do agree with. The witch burning cult sucked, which I hope gets rectified in the sequel. I see it as the other cult recognizes Alessa for her powers, and believes she can birth their God, versus the stupid witch hating cukt,

As for your sequel concerns:
1.Eh, its a change to Vincent but the Nurse clip suggests he is hiding something.

2 and 3: See above.

4. See my hopes for the sequel above, but as a sequel, they cant pretend the witch stuff never happened.

I don't disagree that Rose was fine as a character, and she was likeable enough. I would have been just fine with her if they hadn't shoehorned Sean Bean's character in there, which not only breaks the tension, but he was put there because there weren't really any male characters. Well, that problem wouldn't have been there if they had just kept Harry.

The actress who played Christabella or whatever her name was looked and acted mostly like Dahlia. Why didn't they just put Dahlia in that role with that actress? It would have made her at least a little more true to who she is as a character and would have eliminated the need to create a new character.

Nurses were indeed in SH3, probably for the reason you said, but they were a little more conservatively dressed than in SH2. As for Pyramid Head, I know that he's based off a painting of an executioner of old, but I was always of the mind that the painting left such an impression on James that his mind chose it as the bringer of the punishment he subconsciously desired.

Vincent probably is hiding something in the film, but that doesn't mean he's the witty fan favorite character that utters the line that has divided the SH fandom and caused discussion for a decade now ("Monsters? They looked like monsters to you? ... Don't worry, it's just a joke"). If they really needed to have some love interest for Heather, fine. They could have created one instead of (based off of clips) bastardising Vincent.

Another concern is Sean Bean's character, the equivalent to Harry. He's in Silent Hill in the trailer, at what appears to be near the end of the film. There's a huge reason this bothers me. I won't say why because it's a potential spoiler, but people who have played the game know what it is. This spoiler may still come to pass in some other form, but I doubt it.

 

[Angel_Faerie]

Actually, I can disprove several of your points with info from the games.

1. I'll give you this, I didn't like the idea that this Silent Hill's cult was so big, and basically a Christian off-shoot. Part of the reason I'm not a fan of Homecoming, I hated fighting actual cult members.

2. This goes along with the cult thing for me, its a different take. I think Claudia in the sequel will be what Dahlia would be had they followed the original game closer.

3 Part 1 and 2. I don't care for the Sharon/Cheryl change, but I'm not complaining. As for Rose versus Harry, I don't mind the change because the director wanted to do it with a strong female protagonist. And Rose was well done. For reference on how not to do some female characters, suggest watching a video by The Nostalgia Chick about female superhero movies.

4. Silent Hill 2 suggested PH was manifested in the image of the executioners of Old Silent Hill, in times long ago. If that is the case, couldn't he well be a manifestation of that as well, someone instead attempting to judge the cult rather than a single man. So I really see no reason to dwell on this fact. Yes, PH was total fansevrvice, but I don't hate his prescence.

5. There were sexy nurses in Silent Hill 3, and that had nothing to do with James. I actually believe they have something to do with Lisa, and the Alessa after being burned experiencing jealousy over her beauty.

6. This I do agree with. The witch burning cult sucked, which I hope gets rectified in the sequel. I see it as the other cult recognizes Alessa for her powers, and believes she can birth their God, versus the stupid witch hating cukt,

As for your sequel concerns:
1.Eh, its a change to Vincent but the Nurse clip suggests he is hiding something.

2 and 3: See above.

4. See my hopes for the sequel above, but as a sequel, they cant pretend the witch stuff never happened.

I don't disagree that Rose was fine as a character, and she was likeable enough. I would have been just fine with her if they hadn't shoehorned Sean Bean's character in there, which not only breaks the tension, but he was put there because there weren't really any male characters. Well, that problem wouldn't have been there if they had just kept Harry.

The actress who played Christabella or whatever her name was looked and acted mostly like Dahlia. Why didn't they just put Dahlia in that role with that actress? It would have made her at least a little more true to who she is as a character and would have eliminated the need to create a new character.

Nurses were indeed in SH3, probably for the reason you said, but they were a little more conservatively dressed than in SH2. As for Pyramid Head, I know that he's based off a painting of an executioner of old, but I was always of the mind that the painting left such an impression on James that his mind chose it as the bringer of the punishment he subconsciously desired.

Vincent probably is hiding something in the film, but that doesn't mean he's the witty fan favorite character that utters the line that has divided the SH fandom and caused discussion for a decade now ("Monsters? They looked like monsters to you? ... Don't worry, it's just a joke"). If they really needed to have some love interest for Heather, fine. They could have created one instead of (based off of clips) bastardising Vincent.

Another concern is Sean Bean's character, the equivalent to Harry. He's in Silent Hill in the trailer, at what appears to be near the end of the film. There's a huge reason this bothers me. I won't say why because it's a potential spoiler, but people who have played the game know what it is. This spoiler may still come to pass in some other form, but I doubt it.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I don't disagree that Rose was fine as a character, and she was likeable enough. I would have been just fine with her if they hadn't shoehorned Sean Bean's character in there, which not only breaks the tension, but he was put there because there weren't really any male characters. Well, that problem wouldn't have been there if they had just kept Harry.

The actress who played Christabella or whatever her name was looked and acted mostly like Dahlia. Why didn't they just put Dahlia in that role with that actress? It would have made her at least a little more true to who she is as a character and would have eliminated the need to create a new character.

Nurses were indeed in SH3, probably for the reason you said, but they were a little more conservatively dressed than in SH2. As for Pyramid Head, I know that he's based off a painting of an executioner of old, but I was always of the mind that the painting left such an impression on James that his mind chose it as the bringer of the punishment he subconsciously desired.

Vincent probably is hiding something in the film, but that doesn't mean he's the witty fan favorite character that utters the line that has divided the SH fandom and caused discussion for a decade now ("Monsters? They looked like monsters to you? ... Don't worry, it's just a joke"). If they really needed to have some love interest for Heather, fine. They could have created one instead of (based off of clips) bastardising Vincent.

Another concern is Sean Bean's character, the equivalent to Harry. He's in Silent Hill in the trailer, at what appears to be near the end of the film. There's a huge reason this bothers me. I won't say why because it's a potential spoiler, but people who have played the game know what it is. This spoiler may still come to pass in some other form, but I doubt it.

Fair enough on all points and I hope I didn't come off condescending in my previous post. I agree in your point about using Harry instead, but we got what we got.

PH I also get your point on, and I think the film nurses are indeed based on the 3 nurses which are a bit needlessly sexy because even Lisa was fairly conservative in dress.

I know what spoiler your referring to in 3, and I admit it will probably suck if it doesn't come to pass, but hey, it'll be a bit of a reversal for Bean too.

 

[hexagonsun88]

Right, im still terribly confused.

Where was heather in the 1st film if shes christophers/harrys daughter?

& why have they changed there names?

 

[Roose Bolton]

Heather is Sharon.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Welcome

Heather is Sharon grown up.

And the reason Christopher changed their names and everything is because Sharon has forgotten everything that's happened, and most likely because they are being hounded by cults and what not lol

Funny this shows up cause I'm going to get the HD collection today

 

[Naked Shia]

Fair enough on all points and I hope I didn't come off condescending in my previous post. I agree in your point about using Harry instead, but we got what we got.

PH I also get your point on, and I think the film nurses are indeed based on the 3 nurses which are a bit needlessly sexy because even Lisa was fairly conservative in dress.

I know what spoiler your referring to in 3, and I admit it will probably suck if it doesn't come to pass, but hey, it'll be a bit of a reversal for Bean too.

There is no way they changed your spoiler from SH3. Not with Sean Bean in the role. That would be such a missed opportunity ^^

 

[hexagonsun88]

Ooooooooh! i get it now, kind of. Will they show how Sharon is found in this one? Im a fan of both the games and the film, i think you just to need to look at them as two seperate franchises instead of comparing them really. I was rather impressed with the last game 'Downpour' & this film seems to have alot more money behind it, just hope it lives up to the hype!

 

[Naked Shia]

I'm glad they chose to adapt SH 3. The first movie was a really interesting adaptation, with a lot of heart. It deserved to have a sequel. But indeed, it won't be the exact same story as the game. And I think it's for the better.

 

[Roose Bolton]

There is no way they changed your spoiler from SH3. Not with Sean Bean in the role. That would be such a missed opportunity ^^

A fan flat out asked the director that question and he said the answer was "Yes and No. When you see the film you'll understand how he can be both."

 

[Naked Shia]

Obi, did you add me as a friend on the xbox live?

 

[Roose Bolton]

I don't think so?

 

[Rodrigo90]

Ooooooooh! i get it now, kind of. Will they show how Sharon is found in this one?

I don't think they'll show it, but they're bound to mention it.

 

[Naked Shia]

I know a lot of people don't like Pyramid Head being featured in other games than SH2, but even in SH2, James wasn't the only person who was able to see him. Mr Sullivan saw Pyramid Head in SH2 as well. I think we can assum Pyramid Head symbolise guilt, be it for James or other people.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I don't mind him showing up to others either. But the original saying was that he manifestitated from James' memory after visiting the Historical Society museum, where he learned about Pyramid Head's history as an executioner for the guilty.

Then he just became something that manifests to anybody who wants or needs to be punished.
I don't mind it, but I still would have preferred if he remained an exclusive with James. Or they could have at least told us that other characters knew about him. But as I said, his role changed from the fragment of James' mind, to just something the town itself produces.

 

[Sundancer]

The actress who played Christabella or whatever her name was looked and acted mostly like Dahlia. Why didn't they just put Dahlia in that role with that actress? It would have made her at least a little more true to who she is as a character and would have eliminated the need to create a new character.

Exactly my thoughts!!! The director could have played off the good mother/bad mother dynamic.

I've read several interviews in the past which said this:


1. The director (Christophe Gans) tried to write Harry into the movie but felt he kept acting "like a woman." He explained his reasons to Konami who were persuaded enough to consider re-doing Silent Hill with a woman instead of Harry. (The reboot became Shattered Memories, I think).

2. When Gans got the first script back from Avary he told him to do a re-write because "there were no men in it" which is why we have Sean Bean wandering around.


I think PH still fit in the movie. While he was in SH2 to punish James, he was in the movie to punish the cult...though he should have left Rose alone in that case.

 

[Sundancer]

Mr Sullivan saw Pyramid Head in SH2 as well.

When was this?