Superman Returns Singer mentioned that this would vaguely tie in with Smallville, how so???

[SuperDaniel]

Jonathan died because clark died when he chose to let go of his powers.
Because of this a kind caring Jor-El brought clark back to life in exchange for another life source.This life source would be some one close to clarks.. it was lana, but Jor-El being a caring father gave Clark to revist the moments of Lana's death and correct it to prevent her from dying. Clark did so but as Jor-El WARNED, the tide of fate cannot be changed and fate found to exchange lives with Jonathan..as it happened in Donner's version.

1-Warned mens that Clark knew if he saved Lana, another person would die.
So Jonathans death is Clarks fault. Clark was willing to sacrifice a lifesource to save Lana. He is willing to kill. This isn`t Superman or never will be. Thats not what happened in Superman the movie or any incarnation of Superman. Jonathans death was of natural causes in every encarnation. In Superman the movie, Jonathans death triggers Superman sense of responsibility with the world. He feels he wants to do more.

2-Jor-el giving his powers back IN EXCHANGE FOR ANOTHER LIFE SOURCE proves that Jor-el is evil since he is willing to kill someone. In Superman II, Jor-el gives Clarks powers back in exchange for his own life source. THe ultimate sacrfice for the good of mankind.

3- In Smallville, Lana deths is Jor-el`s fault. And although Clarks motives for going back to the past were the same as in Superman the movie(LOVE), the results of his actions wasnt.In Superman the movie, in the end, Lois died of natural causes(not because of Clark having his powers back) and Superman altered the course of history by traveling the speed of light to save Lois because of Love.

Clark even questioned Lanas death when he confronted Jor-El and Jor-El replied with, 'it was not me who killed her Kal-el' (similiar). Jor-El is not evil and is the same guy you have known in Donners superman, if you know it at all that is.
Jor-El is not evil, he appeared evil at the first few episodes we met him but now as we get to know more about Clarks destiny we find out what Jor-El intends for clark as a father, he brings Clark up to be Superman.

Jor-El is strict at times because like all teenagers clark can be distracted from what is a greater cause.

Conclusion: Smallville is a ****ty show with poorly-written characters, that does`nt respect Superman as a character and his integrity, ecxept for some rare episodes like Rosetta.

Hopefully Superman Returns will bring back the integrity of Superman in 2 hours since Smallville writers can`t do it every week.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

Conclusion: Smallville is a ****ty show with poorly-written characters, that does`nt respect Superman as a character and his integrity, ecxept for some rare episodes like Rosetta.

Hopefully Superman Returns will bring back the integrity of Superman in 2 hours since Smallville writers can`t do it every week.

You ain't just whistlin' dixie.

 

[Matt]

Singer simply did not want to come out and admit it's a sequel to the 70s movies so he say it would tie in to all the other mediums.

 

[Trooper]

i dont want to argue with you about smallville, i think it does its job and im satisfied... lol i still cant believe how stupid you are.. ''jor-el is evil''.. right and lex is good...not

 

[Kane]

On Smallville, Lex is a p*ssy.

Spacey win Own him.

 

[DOO BEE]

smallville is ok.... just wrong in so many ways... and will never be connected to donner films...... or returns in anyway.... the films can be used as guide lines but thats it! i hate it wen TV and Movie universes collide........ its never happened (that i know of) and there for nothing is bad! ha great

 

[The Game]

On Smallville, Lex is a p*ssy.

Spacey win Own him.

Smallville's Lex does get his ass handed to him on many occasions,but Lex was never meant to be a physical sort of dude

 

[Captain Villa]

i dont want to argue with you about smallville, i think it does its job and im satisfied... lol i still cant believe how stupid you are.. ''jor-el is evil''.. right and lex is good...not

You're on your own

 

[Kane]

Smallville's Lex does get his ass handed to him on many occasions,but Lex was never meant to be a physical sort of dude

Its not that he gets knocked out in every other episode (which is true) and played like a tool by everybody (also true) but the fact that he switches between 'good' and 'evil' from episode to episode like he has some bi-polar disorder.

 

[IKnowSomeJudo]

It's a crappy teenage show for MTV-watching losers, who cares if it ties up in an way with SR? Just flush it down the toilet with the rest of kiddy crap shows and bring on the real thing already.

 

[Kane]

L O L

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Big question. Which is better? Lois & Clark or Smallville? I think they both suck but that's MHO.

 

[Kane]

Well it depends if your preference is sitcoms or angsty teen dramas..

 

[M.O.Steel]

Those two projects.. "Superman Returns" & "SmallVille" exists in different universes.. But it is true, Singer did say that something would happen in the current 5'th season of SmallVille that would have an effect on the new movie.. However that can mean so many things still...
Emagine if in the final episode of SmallVille's 5'th season, we saw Welling in the fortress of solitude in the superman suit- the exact same that'll be used in superman Returns.. NEVER gonna happen, I know!!.. But it would be crazy!

maybe he's talking about john kent's death...

 

[Showtime]

^That was my theory as well.

 

[Milkman95]

Damn, harsh words against SV. You're lucky the SV mafia isn't here yet..............

 

[Scooter]

For such ardent hatred of Smallville, you guys sure do talk about it a lot...

 

[Superman \S/]

Read the title of the thread. Last time i checked the question does have to do with SV. So ofcourse it's gonna be mentioned.

 

[Michael Corleone]

For such ardent hatred of Smallville, you guys sure do talk about it a lot...

Considering the topic of this thread I ask the question.....So?

 

[Scooter]

Yeah, 'cause it's never talked about in other threads - threads not about Smallville in any way - right? No no, definitely not.

 

[skruloos]

Yeah, 'cause it's never talked about in other threads - threads not about Smallville in any way - right? No no, definitely not. And besides, when it is brought up, your all so polite, civilized and respectful, right? Of course. I mean it's cool to, in addition to bashing the show, bash the fans of the show too, right? Duh.

Yeah, it's only brought up when the thread is specifically devotd to it. Yep.

Since you're point is quite obviously referring to how people bring up Smallville even in non-Smallville related threads, I think you would have made a bigger point if you hadn't posted in a thread specifically devoted to talking about Smallville's relationship to Superman Returns.

 

[Scooter]

Since you're point is quite obviously referring to how people bring up Smallville even in non-Smallville related threads, I think you would have made a bigger point if you hadn't posted in a thread specifically devoted to talking about Smallville's relationship to Superman Returns.

Probably. Oh well.

 

[Superman \S/]

Since you're point is quite obviously referring to how people bring up Smallville even in non-Smallville related threads, I think you would have made a bigger point if you hadn't posted in a thread specifically devoted to talking about Smallville's relationship to Superman Returns.

 

[Kane]

Who cares if people hate SV. Its expected...this is a Superman forum.

I dissed Lois and Clark also, disliked that series too....but I doubt there will be an L+C mafia rushing in here.

 

[Scooter]

Who cares if people hate SV. Its expected...this is a Superman forum.

I dissed Lois and Clark also, disliked that series too....but I doubt there will be an L+C mafia rushing in here.

What is this SV mafia?