SM3 Lizard Discussion

[The Jester]

This might be a silly question, but has The Lizard actually been confirmed for SM3? or is the '4th villain' still a mystery?

 

[Idiotic Idiot06]

It's still a mystery.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

It's still a mystery.

same here.

 

[Fran]

This might be a silly question, but has The Lizard actually been confirmed for SM3? or is the '4th villain' still a mystery?

Not really a mystery.

The fourth villain (dun dun dun) will be the symbiote/evil-black Spidey.

Lizard won't appear. He will be hinted at, though.

 

[Spider-Bite]

He'd probably sound simmilliar to somethign off of Jurassic Park rather than Venom. He's a lizard, not an alien.

 

[chaseter]

The 4th villian is likely symbiote Spidey. Raimi already has 3 big villians...throwing in 4 would be overcrowded. Plus Arad is d!ck and was just fooling with us.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The 4th villian is likely symbiote Spidey. Raimi already has 3 big villians...throwing in 4 would be overcrowded. Plus Arad is d!ck and was just fooling with us.

the 4th villian is the alien symbiote there will probably be a cliffhanger or cameo of the lizard in spiderman3.

 

[Jubba]

i kind of think it's funny how some people state things like they've seen the movie and know for sure
"this will happen, but this other thing won't"
let's wait for may '07 to be sure...until then, remember that your opinion is often just as valid as someone else's...what you think might or might not happen doesn't make it fact unless it has been confirmed...and even then the movie COULD change somewhat by the time it's released
anyway i hope the lizard doens't have a normal human voice and i hope that we get a good hint of him in sm3

 

[USMC]

They need to just leave the Lizard out of the film. Nobody wants to see "Beauty and the Beast".

NO LIZARD.

 

[GoldGoblin]

there will probably be a cliffhanger or cameo of the lizard in spiderman3.

^Hope so.

 

[The Lizard]

They need to just leave the Lizard out of the film. Nobody wants to see "Beauty and the Beast".

NO LIZARD.

Are you just refering to SM3, or are you saying "no Lizard" in any future Spidey film?

Because if it's the latter, we're going to have words, mister.

 

[USMC]

Any and all Spidey films.

 

[The Lizard]

Any and all Spidey films.

*opens can of Shaq-fu*

 

[Scissors]

i'dd love too see lizard,hes my second fave villian!

 

[SamuraiSon6]

if there ever is a spidey 4 i would want it to be the lizard, i see the most potential for a story line along the caliber of the rest of the films.

 

[USMC]

*opens can of Shaq-fu*

How can it be a good story? Lizard doesn't talk, and if he does, it'd be lame.

Also, the Man or Monster bit has been done already... the Hulk (while many may not like it) delved so far deep into that concept, they hit China.

I just don't see it working...

Can you give me some kind of storyline idea that could intrigue me enough to want to watch it?

 

[Jubba]

How can it be a good story? Lizard doesn't talk, and if he does, it'd be lame.

Also, the Man or Monster bit has been done already... the Hulk (while many may not like it) delved so far deep into that concept, they hit China.

I just don't see it working...

Can you give me some kind of storyline idea that could intrigue me enough to want to watch it?

lizard DOES talk...check youtube for a video
almost every spidey villain deals with the man/monster thing, so don't say it can't be done just cuz it's been done already...a new spin would be good...we haven't so far seen a spidey villain with a love interest that survives and wants the bad guy to get better
having kraven hunting the lizard hired on by JJJ or JJ Jr for some reward and spider-man getting in the way trying to save his friend dr. connors but having to fight him as well would be intriguing...i could expand but i've already said it in this thread earlier
and this WOULD be different form Ock being bad and GG being bad despite being fairly reputable beforehand
lizard wouldn't necessarily have to sacrifice himself like ock did and wouldn't have to die like norman did
he could be returned to normal or learn how to keep things under control...he would have split personalities...good guy by day, evil lizard by night and he would not be able to control the evil lizard until
quite different, and nothing like hulk IMO

 

[lizard855]

^ It seems most people are talking about that plot for four and it defently could work well with the plot ,depending on three ( sorry to get off topic)

 

[The Lizard]

How can it be a good story? Lizard doesn't talk, and if he does, it'd be lame.

Why lame? He's talked in the comics for over 40 years now. It would have to be handled the correct way in a screen format - perhaps have the transformation from Connors to Lizard happen slowly (while the other back-stories are playing out), and the talking Lizard could eventually lose the power of speech if he devolves into a mindless beast. A talking Lizard doesn't have to mean a "reptiles will take over the world" motivation for the character. Lizzy doesn't have to monologue like in the old comics, but some hissing words in the right scenes could be creepy and effective.

Also, the Man or Monster bit has been done already... the Hulk (while many may not like it) delved so far deep into that concept, they hit China.

You're mostly right about the Hulk. The similarities between Lizard and Hulk, both visual and conceptual, would have to be dealt with in a hypothetical film. For this reason, I've said before that I'm OK with the Lizard not being green (black, gray,brown, or even blue could work), and I would personally NOT have Curt Connors transform back and forth to Lizard-form during the movie. A slow, one-way transformation that can be shown in flashbacks or in interludes between other storylines is the way to go. Honestly, I'd actually think twice about even having Curt transform back to human at all at the end of the film. What if an antidote brought Curt's mind back, but he was still trapped in the Lizard's reptilian body in some secret research lab at the end? A tragic end for the character without resorting to killing him or having an unrealistic quick "cure" at the conclusion.

Can you give me some kind of storyline idea that could intrigue me enough to want to watch it?

As far as a catchy storyline goes, maybe some kind of variation of the "stone tablet" scenario from the late 1960s ASM comics could work. Perhaps not even with the tablet itself, but there could be some financial reason that Connors gets tangled up with the organized crime villains from the Spidey comics. Thus, we could have multiple mafia-type criminals like Silvermane, Cicero and Tombstone without them being too over-the-top in the costumed villain department. Connors' obsession with perfecting his limb-regeneration formula could drive him to first borrow money from criminals, and then later take the formula himself out of desperation.

I do think that the Lizard storyline would work better as part of a multi-villain scenario to prevent too much focus on the Jekyll/Hyde aspects that we've seen already. A Lizard storyline would have to paired up with the right supporting villains however - no animal villains or symbiotes would work.
I really wish that Lizard had made it to the screen before Venom though, because after we've seen Venom, the scary toothy monster villain will have been done in this franchise.

 

[Jubba]

not all liazrds are toothy, though
and yeah hulk and lizard both wear torn white tops and purple pants after their transformation...

 

[Mr. Vice]

not all liazrds are toothy, though
and yeah hulk and lizard both wear torn white tops and purple pants after their transformation...

Hulk wears a white top? That's news to me.

 

[lizard855]

not all liazrds are toothy, though
and yeah hulk and lizard both wear torn white tops and purple pants after their transformation...

Hulk does not were a white top.

 

[Jubba]

uh huh? maybe not all the time - and i said it gets torn
but....anyway here are some things that weren't based on something that doesn't exist-and then lizard for colour scheme comparison

 

[Jubba]

i think it means that many scientists in the spider-man world wear white tops/labcoats and purple pants - so when they go nuts, that's all they have on...and when they grow and mutate, they tear them up...thankfully in hulk the movie, his pants were super stretchy and didn't ever come off

 

[lizard855]

^thank god lol