Why, Raimi? Why?

[Aiden]

*sigh*

Was is just casted? Or something else

 

[Mephistopheles]

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think they got it right. Consider the quote at the beginning of the Comic Con trailer from Aunt May - about how seeking revenge turns you into a monster. They're not basing this film around a single plot strand, but around a theme.

Peter/Spidey will seek revenge on Sandman because he is led to believe Sandman was involved with the killing of Ben.

Harry seeks revenge on Peter/Spidey because of his father.

Brock seeks revenge on Peter for whatever reason is revealed in the film.

So essentially, the film charts the corruption that revenge has on each of these characters. And revenge warps and destroys each of them in their own way, turning them into monsters. In Brock's case, this happens in the most extreme form, turning him into a slathering, horrifying creature.

That is why I think they've left Venom's appearance to the end. Because it's the most extreme, the most shocking, the most terrifying realisation of Revenge.

And once again they're clearly focusing on character - which is why Raimi said that each villain is brought in tightly connected with the story. There are no superfluous conflicts in other words - and that adds up to one hell of a suspense-filled film.

I've had my doubts about Venom and all the other villains being crowded in, but the more I see, the more convinced I am that there's nothing to worry about...


*deep breath*

Great Post

 

[THWIP*]

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think they got it right. Consider the quote at the beginning of the Comic Con trailer from Aunt May - about how seeking revenge turns you into a monster. They're not basing this film around a single plot strand, but around a theme.

Peter/Spidey will seek revenge on Sandman because he is led to believe Sandman was involved with the killing of Ben.

Harry seeks revenge on Peter/Spidey because of his father.

Brock seeks revenge on Peter for whatever reason is revealed in the film.

So essentially, the film charts the corruption that revenge has on each of these characters. And revenge warps and destroys each of them in their own way, turning them into monsters. In Brock's case, this happens in the most extreme form, turning him into a slathering, horrifying creature.

That is why I think they've left Venom's appearance to the end. Because it's the most extreme, the most shocking, the most terrifying realisation of Revenge.

And once again they're clearly focusing on character - which is why Raimi said that each villain is brought in tightly connected with the story. There are no superfluous conflicts in other words - and that adds up to one hell of a suspense-filled film.

I've had my doubts about Venom and all the other villains being crowded in, but the more I see, the more convinced I am that there's nothing to worry about...


*deep breath*

AWESOME POST......AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. MY ONLY REAL CONCERN.......NOW, AS BEFORE........IS WITH THE TIME ELEMENT. IF THEY MAKE AT LEAST A 2-1/2 HR MOVIE (I'D LOVE 3, BUT I'M BEING REALISTIC), THIS CAN WORK; IF IT'S ONLY 2 HOURS......OR LESS......IT WON'T. YOU ONLY NEED TO SEE 'X-MEN:TLS' TO REALIZE THAT.

 

[Cinemaman]

I think Spidey 3 will be about 140-150 mins.

 

[inspecta51]

I have neither the time nor the inclination to read through 170+ posts, so if this has already been said, accept my apologies.

I don't think Venom is going to be in the film that much. I think much of the film will scope the GG2 and Sandman angle with Brock being in the thick of the story. I think Venom won't actually apear until the end which will lead into the 4th movie with Venom being the title villian in that movie. Its not too early to introduce him, its just the right time in fact.

 

[Idio]

Honestly, out of all the villains, I've just wanted to see Venom the most on screen. With the possibilities of any of the cast or Raimi returning to the franchise after this one, I'm glad that we're getting a good interpretation of Venom.

If you hated the comic version of Venom, that doesn't mean a thing, considering how different the movie counterparts have been from the comic versions. Doc Ock is by no means the same Doc Ock from the comics.

Venom, visually, is spectacular. You can say that you hate his character and what have you, but a full blown web slinging fight between Venom and Spiderman over the New York skyline is going to be something to look at.

 

[superduperhero]

Yeah if we wouldn't have gotten Venom people would be like "what the hell.... no venom!!!" and this thread would've been about how Raimi didn't make this film with Venom.....

 

[Tony Stark]

Exactly why I'm glad fanboys don't have control of this franchise. The only thing bad about having Venom in this movie, is a 4th movie will be hard to top this one.

 

[superduperhero]

Exactly why I'm glad fanboys don't have control of this franchise. The only thing bad about having Venom in this movie, is a 4th movie will be hard to top this one.

TRUE.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Yeah if we wouldn't have gotten Venom people would be like "what the hell.... no venom!!!" and this thread would've been about how Raimi didn't make this film with Venom.....

thats the truth

 

[Topdawg]

Im glad they chsoe venom, he's one of the best villains.

 

[Cinemaman]

Exactly why I'm glad fanboys don't have control of this franchise. The only thing bad about having Venom in this movie, is a 4th movie will be hard to top this one.

Actually 4th villian is symbiote, I hope so, because I dont want Mysterio to appear.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Actually 4th villian is symbiote, I hope so, because I dont want Mysterio to appear.

Trust me, it isn't Mysterio.

 

[Lothy]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Venom still "at large" or in some sense not dead by the end of the movie.

That way you're giving a portion of the fan base what they want by having Venom in SM3, while leaving the character open for future conflicts in further sequels.

 

[DSET]

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think they got it right. Consider the quote at the beginning of the Comic Con trailer from Aunt May - about how seeking revenge turns you into a monster. They're not basing this film around a single plot strand, but around a theme.

Peter/Spidey will seek revenge on Sandman because he is led to believe Sandman was involved with the killing of Ben.

Harry seeks revenge on Peter/Spidey because of his father.

Brock seeks revenge on Peter for whatever reason is revealed in the film.

So essentially, the film charts the corruption that revenge has on each of these characters. And revenge warps and destroys each of them in their own way, turning them into monsters. In Brock's case, this happens in the most extreme form, turning him into a slathering, horrifying creature.

That is why I think they've left Venom's appearance to the end. Because it's the most extreme, the most shocking, the most terrifying realisation of Revenge.

And once again they're clearly focusing on character - which is why Raimi said that each villain is brought in tightly connected with the story. There are no superfluous conflicts in other words - and that adds up to one hell of a suspense-filled film.

I've had my doubts about Venom and all the other villains being crowded in, but the more I see, the more convinced I am that there's nothing to worry about...


*deep breath*

I strongly agree
Now that Topher seems to be doing a good job the only doubt I have on this film is the cluttering of villains and subplots they might throw into the storyline
3 seem's a bit much but a 4th might ruin it
But the way you describe it makes me feel a little better about the direction they’re taking this movie in.

I sincerely hope they show just a bit of Venom scenes and leave his main actions and plots for a fourth one. We all know Venom is by far the most anticipated spidey villain of them all and it would be a waste if all he gets is a movie with sandman and Harry. It would be unjustifiable that Ock and Goblin get they’re own movies and Venom doesn’t. It would be like making BB2 with Joker, Mr Freeze and poison Ivy. But Raimi is not a big Venom supporter so it’s possible that we wont see venom in the fourth

 

[Eddie Brock]

Trust me, it isn't Mysterio.

i heard somewhere that Bruce plays a waiter or something

 

[pedro parkero]

Venom, visually, is spectacular. You can say that you hate his character and what have you, but a full blown web slinging fight between Venom and Spiderman over the New York skyline is going to be something to look at.

Yeah, too bad he's only going to

Spoiler

appear in the final fight at the construction site and will die after that...

 

[Darkthrone]

I don't get it.. when was it CONFIRMED that 6 movies will come out.


IT has to be confirmed, boys and girls.


As for Venom, he will most likely be the main villian if there IS a 4th one.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Yeah, too bad he's only going to

Spoiler

appear in the final fight at the construction site and will die after that...

not exactly
Topher gave away that Venom kidnaps MJ

 

[Lothy]

Yeah, too bad he's only going to

Spoiler

appear in the final fight at the construction site and will die after that...

Just curious...Do we actually know that to be confirmed someplace? Or is that just the current speculation going around? I'm not surprised at the first point, but rather your second one.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Just curious...Do we actually know that to be confirmed someplace? Or is that just the current speculation going around? I'm not surprised at the first point, but rather your second one.

i dont think its confirmed at all

 

[Cinemaman]

Well, actually we will see most likely 2-3 scenes of Venom.

1) First scene of Brock turning into Venom in the church.

2) Some scene with him and Venom finding something in symbiote.

3) Final Battle

 

[ges681]

Well, actually we will see most likely 2-3 scenes of Venom.

1) First scene of Brock turning into Venom in the church.

2) Some scene with him and Venom finding something in symbiote.

3) Final Battle

what about him kidnapping MJ. Topher hinted pretty strongly this weekend it was going to happen.

 

[Cinemaman]

what about him kidnapping MJ. Topher hinted pretty strongly this weekend it was going to happen.

My bad, we will see him 4 times

 

[Mr. Vice]

Venom is going to rock!