The Dark Knight So could our TDK mesh with singer's Superman?

[Darknightnomis]

Aliens VS. Batman and Superman.

Hey, while your'e at it why not just up the ante....

Alien vs Predator VS. Batman VS. Superman!!!

A Round Robin Battle Royale were Winner wins the Fan boy World! t:

....just keep Bryan Singer away from having anything to do it!

 

[raybia]

I always find this subject hilarious.

Words like cute, gimmicky, and campy always come to mind. In the words of Spacey's Luthor, WRONG!!

Why wouldn't it work? With the proper writing and vision, this would be fantastic. The AKW script laid a pretty good foundation to improve upon. The different dynamics between the characters would be excellent to explore. Wally Pfister could shoot this film with no issues. Why does a Superman/Batman film automatically qualify as not working and being ridiculous?

Oh it could work, I just question WB ability to make it work.

I don't think I would have Nolan direct or write it but he definitely should be an Executive Producer since Batman is his franchise (unless he decides to severs his ties after he completes his trilogy). As far as Singer, keep him far away.

This project would need to be taken very seriously and at this point I would say that Nolan's version of the Joker would need to be the one used in this movie assuming that Joker and Luthor are the villians. The problem that I have with Luthor is Singer's version. Now if it was the version from the "Superman/Batman: Aminated movie, then I'm all for it.

The villians and how they are connected will make or break this movie.

I have no idea who should write the story but I would definitely bring on board some DC people as consultants if not as writers. (Bruce Timm comes to mind.)

How about the Wachoskis to direct or maybe even Ridley Scott? It needs to be a credible director who has experience with a big production.

I don't know, there seems to be tooo many variable that would need to go right in order for this movie to be successful.

 

[Darknightnomis]

I don't think I would have Nolan direct or write it but he definitely should be an Executive Producer since Batman is his franchise (unless he decides to severs his ties after he completes his trilogy). As far as Singer, keep him far away.

I have no idea who should write the story but I would definitely bring on board some DC people as consultants if not as writers. (Bruce Timm comes to mind.)

How about the Wachoskis to direct or maybe even Ridley Scott? It needs to be a credible director who has experience with a big production.

Raybia there was a reason why I knew I like you and outside the fact that you have "cooler than cool" Lando Calrissian as your Avatar. t:

But it the fact that you actually make a reasonable statement to keep Singer away from anything like this and even have them consult with the DC people and you suggest some intereting choices as director.

The Wachooski brothers would proboly be the better choice over Scott because they are fimiliar with the comic resources to make a movie like that.

 

[BatScot]

Why does a Superman/Batman film automatically qualify as not working and being ridiculous?

It depends on your assumptions... if you accept Nolan's contextual narrative in so far as it has been presented then a supernatural element is inconsistent with that vision. Could that context be changed to allow for the purely fantastical? Yes. Should it? Not in my opinion. Now one should not take from that a general condemnation of a potential Batman/Superman movie, but it does preclude a physics defying alien from existing in Nolan’s Batman universe and in that sense a Batman/Superman movie would not work.

 

[raybia]

It depends on your assumptions... if you accept Nolan's contextual narrative in so far as it has been presented then a supernatural element is inconsistent with that vision. Could that context be change to allow for the purely fantastical? Yes. Should it? Not in my opinion. Now one should not take from that a general condemnation of a potential Batman/Superman movie, but it does preclude a physics defying alien from existing in Nolan’s Batman universe and in that sense it would not work.

Uh?

 

[raybia]

I don't think I would have Nolan direct or write it but he definitely should be an Executive Producer since Batman is his franchise (unless he decides to severs his ties after he completes his trilogy). As far as Singer, keep him far away.

I have no idea who should write the story but I would definitely bring on board some DC people as consultants if not as writers. (Bruce Timm comes to mind.)

How about the Wachoskis to direct or maybe even Ridley Scott? It needs to be a credible director who has experience with a big production.

Raybia there was a reason why I knew I like you and outside the fact that you have "cooler than cool" Lando Calrissian as your Avatar. t:

But it the fact that you actually make a reasonable statement to keep Singer away from anything like this and even have them consult with the DC people and you suggest some intereting choices as director.

The Wachooski brothers would proboly be the better choice over Scott because they are fimiliar with the comic resources to make a movie like that.

Thanks!

I just think that WB should realize the potential box office and popularity of a Batman/Superman film and then should do every thing humanly possible to see that it reaches its potential as a mega blockbuster that goes down as one of the greatest movies in the Superhero genre ever. If done right, it could surpass Spider-man II in box office and BB in terms of critical acclaim. That is what WB should be aiming for.

If they don't think they are willing and/or able to accomplish this, then they should abort this project. My biggest fear is that it will be half-ass done and come across as some cheesy gimmicky cross-over that will pale in comparison to the animated team up of the characters.

Done that way come be the final nail in the coffin for the Superman franchise and quickly return the Batman franchise to Schumaker terrority. Too much is at risk to not do this movie right.

 

[Darknightnomis]

Thanks!

I just think that WB should realize the potential box office and popularity of a Batman/Superman film and then should do every thing humanly possible to see that it reaches its potential as a mega blockbuster that goes down as one of the greatest movies in the Superhero genre ever. If done right, it could surpass Spider-man II in box office and BB in terms of critical acclaim. That is what WB should be aiming for.

If they don't think they are willing and/or able to accomplish this, then they should abort this project. My biggest fear is that it will be half-ass done and come across as some cheesy gimmicky cross-over that will pale in comparison to the animated team up of the characters.

Done that way come be the final nail in the coffin for the Superman franchise and quickly return the Batman franchise to Schumaker terrority. Too much is at risk to not do this movie right.

Amen. Man, you are so right on the money!

And I'msure WB is aware of the monitary potential of a BAtman/Superman movie I think it's us as Fans of the characters that are afraid they will go with the "oer the top" aspect and we got another "BAtman and Robin" on are hands.

However, IF treat with the proper respect that the characters deserve they would have the ultimate superhero movie in money and accaaim if they remember not to cheese it up or make the characters too cartoony or corny.

And I don't think that just because Batman is the most accessible hero to be in the "real world" that having Superman in a movie with him will devalue the realism of it.

 

[BatScot]

Uh?

It means no

 

[bunk]

Aliens and Batman and Superman VS. Jack Bauer

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Look how well the World's Finest cartoon worked out several years back...

If something like that could be adaped to the big screen, i'd more than likely see it a dozen times, at LEAST!

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Ra's and Mad Hatter should team up to mind-control supes.

I'm still not convinced I'd want to see this live-action, but a story like that in Timm format would be awesome. Batman having to avoid getting croaked by a mind-controlled Man of Steel, and restoring him to his wits.

It is, of course, basically a riff from Hush, except in Hush it was Ivy who did it. But it worked there, it could work as its own story, as well.

 

[Milkman95]

It depends on your assumptions... if you accept Nolan's contextual narrative in so far as it has been presented then a supernatural element is inconsistent with that vision. Could that context be changed to allow for the purely fantastical? Yes. Should it? Not in my opinion. Now one should not take from that a general condemnation of a potential Batman/Superman movie, but it does preclude a physics defying alien from existing in Nolan’s Batman universe and in that sense a Batman/Superman movie would not work.

Well, that's also debatable. I'd have no problem with a character like Superman showing up in Nolan's Batman universe. He's already had a Scarecrow character that can instill people's greatest fear by having them inhale some type of gas and another that is immortal, so with a Superman that's grounded and written a little bit more realistically would work. Kingdom Come comes to mind a little...........

 

[Cats]

Having trouble comprehending the mind of a superman? Never been difficult for me. Maybe that's because I'm an elitist romantic with delusions of grandeur. I thought all superhero fans were.

Never had that problem till Bryan Singer's "Superman" came along. Clark/Supes has always been close to my heart, I feel like I know him as a friend. That Superman in Returns is NOT Superman.

 

[StorminNorman]

Never had that problem till Bryan Singer's "Superman" came along. Clark/Supes has always been close to my heart, I feel like I know him as a friend. That Superman in Returns is NOT Superman.

How in the world was Superman in Returns NOT Superman?

 

[yankee]

Not for me. Wasn't Christopher Reeves even against it back then?
I doubt its still Bale if this happens and no doubt Nolan is out of the equation.

 

[explode7]

SR is f***ed up and now the fans are comming in here wanting that he teams up with batman in Nolan's World. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Let BS sort his superman mess out before anyone even consider bringing that crap fest near Nolans Batman.

 

[Crooklyn]

SR is f***ed up and now the fans are comming in here wanting that he teams up with batman in Nolan's World. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Let BS sort his superman mess out before anyone even consider bringing that crap fest near Nolans Batman.

Pretentious moaning aside ( ), I somewhat agree. SR has split up the fans, and since we are getting a sequel, I think we should wait until the second is released before we start this discussion up more thoroughly.

If we get something that does entice both fans and general movie-goers alike, then yes, I'm all for a Superman/Batman team-up with Routh and Bale respectively. However, it'd definitely have to be made certain a top-notch crew is behind this. I wouldn't mind if Nolan or Singer backed down on such a film, just as long as the people behind that camera know how these characters work, and can carry the torch, I'm good.

 

[explode7]

I just hope if they are doing the team up thing that none of the crew members of SR is anywhere near this especially those crappy writers. Routh is an exception.

 

[Crooklyn]

I wouldn't mind the cinematographer from SR returning. His work was absolutely beautiful imo, he could do wonders with Gotham at night.

 

[xanberkeley]

Their alliance should stay in the cartoons not on the bigscreen. If they team up the expectations will be so large that it cannot exceed what many would want. Kate Bosworth said on the radio that SR is cursed and that curse even affected her so overall its wise if this curse does not infect Batman. LOLOL!

 

[M.O.Steel]

i remember wolgang peterson saying something along the lines of how batman vs supermn would be something like troy with achilles and hector. They are both heroes, yet they fought each other. While i agree with those that would love a world's finest instead of a versus, it would be interesting how he would have approached it.

 

[Milkman95]

i remember wolgang peterson saying something along the lines of how batman vs supermn would be something like troy with achilles and hector. They are both heroes, yet they fought each other. While i agree with those that would love a world's finest instead of a versus, it would be interesting how he would have approached it.

I've read the Andrew Kevin Walker script that Petersen was going to use for BvS - it wasn't bad. With a few modifications, it could be really good. I liked the angle of Batman coming out of retirement, how the Joker absolutely OWNED him, and the different views both Superman and Batman have when it comes to justice.

This film needs to take place at the end of both their careers in order for it to work - at least IMO.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I think I said this before but I forget... I believe both sequels to their respected franchises will perform pretty well at the BO... especially Batman... now the question would be would they want to continue both franchises or just one... or just move on to other smaller market DC films which won't be as successful... I think it might be too expensive to start another trilogy with new actors for each franchise, or even one franchise down the road... maybe in like fifteen years but they might not wait that long... maybe they just make a fourth Batman installment with that being the end of it but that doesn't have the sex appeal in terms of money it can make... I still think WB takes a long break but they will seriously push for a crossover at the end of both trilogies as the article hints at... and I don't believe it has to take place at the end of their careers...

 

[raybia]

It means no

I agree! t:

 

[Ronny Shade]

I always find this subject hilarious.

Words like cute, gimmicky, and campy always come to mind. In the words of Spacey's Luthor, WRONG!!

Why wouldn't it work? With the proper writing and vision, this would be fantastic. The AKW script laid a pretty good foundation to improve upon. The different dynamics between the characters would be excellent to explore. Wally Pfister could shoot this film with no issues. Why does a Superman/Batman film automatically qualify as not working and being ridiculous?

I do NOT want Metropolis looking like Gotham. I do NOT want this movie to look like The Prestige or like Batman Begins.

That said, I still think you're right. Wally Pfister could do it.

Nolan, however, should not direct.