Sequels So I guess Schuler Donner just confirmed an X4

[Psylocke8]

well.. umm... isnt that obvious? every new x-men movie would have at least 2 new mutants... and gambits the front runner...

yeah gambit and i reallly hope Psylocke.

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Well with no Halle no Hugh and practically no original cast members (other than Rogue) the future looks bleek talking about money it looks like Halle isn't the only one they can't afford to bring back. Cuz I remember all the whining about "halle's ego" when X3 was still in production.Hugh jackman, Famke Janssen, and Rebecca Romjin want a lot of money too.I just hope if they plan to kill off Storm it is not as ridiculus Cyclops' death. A young X men movie would be okay but with no cameos from the originals I see no success. A movie with Iceman, Kitty, Colosuss, Angel and whatever mediocre characters they add in is dumb. Psylocke is dead, Rogue is cured there were two good characters that were ruined.Gambit is the only Fanfave they haven't wasted in the previous films.

And how on God's green earth do you figure the movie will suck with these characters? This opportunity could open a whole new door for this franchise. Just because fans of the other (dead) characters don't get a chance to see their favorites on screen, doesn't mean the movie will be a flop. This is a chance for the remaining younger characters to prove themselves as X-Men, under the leadership of Storm, and also introduce some of the other characters not featured before.

Such as: Havok to replace Cyclops, Gambit to replace to Wolverine, Dazzler to replace Jean, and possibly Polaris to replace Storm. Maybe even add in a little extra "color" besides Storm, like Bishop (but his story explained in modern terms).

It might be cost effective for the Studio to introduce these newer characters and give them a two movie deal, rather than pay for the older and more experienced actors. Besides, there's nothing about this movie that coincides with the comic book, so it's easier to get away with a motley crue of mutants on the X-Team.

 

[Cosmic Mind]

that could work, but they still need to solve the plot holes left by X3 to go on on a new story....

 

[genufine]

And how on God's green earth do you figure the movie will suck with these characters? This opportunity could open a whole new door for this franchise. Just because fans of the other (dead) characters don't get a chance to see their favorites on screen, doesn't mean the movie will be a flop. This is a chance for the remaining younger characters to prove themselves as X-Men, under the leadership of Storm, and also introduce some of the other characters not featured before.

Such as: Havok to replace Cyclops, Gambit to replace to Wolverine, Dazzler to replace Jean, and possibly Polaris to replace Storm. Maybe even add in a little extra "color" besides Storm, like Bishop (but his story explained in modern terms).

It might be cost effective for the Studio to introduce these newer characters and give them a two movie deal, rather than pay for the older and more experienced actors. Besides, there's nothing about this movie that coincides with the comic book, so it's easier to get away with a motley crue of mutants on the X-Team.

This is honestly the very same reason, Hollywood execs dont give a sh't about you. You really talk non-sense, do you know that? Do you REALLY in your right mind believe that an X-men movie with COLOSSUS, ROGUE, KITTY etc will succeed? Honestly.

If you answered yes. Dont even bother reading what I have to say next.

X-men, Spiderman, Superman all these movies dont give a rat *** about comic continuity or comic fans. They care about Revenue - Expenese = Profit. There is MORE revenue appealing to the LARGER movie market - which are NOT the comic readers. The general movie audience does not give a sh't about the younger generation. You'll get them cheering for the main guys - the guys who have always had exposure since the cartoons.

The only idea I can give you is GAMBIT replacing Wolverine. Even that idea, would be a very 50/50 risk. Havok? Who in the right PUBLIC audience has heard or cares about Havok? And if you say Cyclops was no better. Think again, Fox knows how much influence cyclops has, thats why he is ALWAYS involved in the marketing no matter how small the role. Dazzler -pshh.

Do me a favor, and NEVER write to movie execs or post your ideas publicly. You points just fade out genuine points made by true fans who want to see genuine continuity of stories as well as profit earned to those who deserve it.

And yes, quote me, make a new x-men movie with NEW YOUNG X-MEN, the movie is a GUARANTEED flop.

 

[Cyrusbales]

One of the only comic book movies that cared about fans was Hellboy, and that had to comprimise between the director(fan) and the producer(money maker, booo).

 

[genufine]

I've been saying this before. But one thing I'd definately like to see in X4 would be Cyke VS Wolverine! Thats something comic fans and movie go-ers definately want to see - even a 5 minute fight.

That could be their secondary marketing (internal conflict between Xmen). The first marketing is obviously the main villain.

I also think Sinister should have a trilogy too. With Apocalypse being the third one in the trilogy.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

that could work, but they still need to solve the plot holes left by X3 to go on on a new story....

What plot holes.. tell me and i guarantee you i can solve it

 

[Psylocke8]

What plot holes.. tell me and i guarantee you i can solve it

I think he means Xaviers body who's in it? Will he ever come back?
Magneto will he bad again? Does the cure really work or is it invulentary?
If the cure usnt pemanent will rogue stay at the mansion afraa=id of hurting others? Is the government trusting mutants now? Will the government try another way to get rid of muttants? Juggs and Pyro and all of the bad mutants who escaped will they form a terrrost group? Were the Worthington labs destroyed? Beast? Will Scott return? The plotholes are almost endless.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I think he means Xaviers body who's in it? Will he ever come back?
Magneto will he bad again? Does the cure really work or is it invulentary?
If the cure usnt pemanent will rogue stay at the mansion afraa=id of hurting others? Is the government trusting mutants now? Will the government try another way to get rid of muttants? Juggs and Pyro and all of the bad mutants who escaped will they form a terrrost group? Were the Worthington labs destroyed? Beast? Will Scott return? The plotholes are almost endless.

Xavier's body swap is not a plot hole... its a cliff hanger as is the Cure's life span...

Plot holes are something in a movie wich happens that no one knows why, it isnt explained and its out of place... if stuff like that happens at the end.. its a cliff hanger. HUGE difference... because cliffangers (like jeans death, and "the war") were X2 cliffhangers that were resolved in X3... and both the body swap and the cure not becoming perminant are cliffhangers that will be answered in the next movie.

infact, all of what you stated are cliff hangers.. not plot holes...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

if anything was a plot hole in X3, it was how did angel get from the east coast to the west coast so fast... Penn said it was due to him stowing away on the X-jet.. but that wasn't shown, so its a plot hole..

 

[Taiwarriorz21]

I like all the characters except Anna that plays "Rogue". Xavier, Cyclops, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Iceman, Pyro, Phoenix, Beast, Angel were all good. IDK Why people gotta have to act like they know someone that would protray a character better than the actor that is already. Have you met any of those that you have to have play the part? No...Leave the decision makin to the directors! They know what their doin. THey do all the hiring and I think they can handle the task that is at hand. They're professionals and you're not! Hugh Jackman does Wolverine JUSTICE! Story CLOSED....Nightcrawler needs to come back. Gambit, and new x-men need to be added. Bigger Villians that Ian McKellen need to be added into the franchise like Mr. Sinister, and Apocalypse.
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[spideyboy_1111]

what are you talking about? lol no ones dissing the actors

 

[Psylocke8]

^ But cliffhangers or whatever are still impotant people can just leave that there and say we wont have any x4.


Proessor X body swap nobody has anyu idea about so whatever anybody says it is just an opinion It could go anywhere. Why did Xavier choose that body? Nobody knows why. This could go on and on until an x4 comes out or more information is released

 

[ProfeZZor X]

I've been saying this before. But one thing I'd definately like to see in X4 would be Cyke VS Wolverine! Thats something comic fans and movie go-ers definately want to see - even a 5 minute fight.

That could be their secondary marketing (internal conflict between Xmen). The first marketing is obviously the main villain.

I also think Sinister should have a trilogy too. With Apocalypse being the third one in the trilogy.

Those are the most idiotic ideas ever.

Reason #1... Cyclops is already dead...No fight... End of story.

Reason #1A... Even if Cyke was alive and Wolverine gutted him, there's no more Cyke for the next movie for him to support the next idiotic idea you listed in Reason #2. Wolverine also gets kicked off the team (Ever think of that?)... Yeah, great way to destroy two of the movie's main characters buddy. That idea is no better that what the producers came up with for the X3 story.

Reason #2... Why should anyone give a flying #&@% about three Mr. Sinister movies? And what the hell could he possibly offer that would take three movies to explain? ... " Oh look at me, I have evil intentions, and I can splice genes"... I believe the movie "Island Of Dr. Moreau" took only one movie to explain.

Reason #3... How the bloody hell are you going to explain the creation and back story of Apocalypse in a modern day movie, AND have him destroyed by the end of that movie? ... Yeah, that's studio money put to good use.

You really need to think about what you're saying before you open your mouth. Because what you're suggesting makes about as much sense as Milligan and Austen's run.

 

[Drago]

yes, well you dont sign actors for nothing now do you?
she stated, clearly, that they have signed actors...

Toad, Sabretooth, and Lady Deathstrike were all signed for 3 picture deals I believe.

I think an X4 is coming- you don't need Jackman for that since he's got his own spinoffs now... you need to sign Halle again (god.. what a process that's gonna be..), and depending on how you play it out, sign Anna again.

 

[Cyrusbales]

I like all the characters except Anna that plays "Rogue". Xavier, Cyclops, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Iceman, Pyro, Phoenix, Beast, Angel were all good. IDK Why people gotta have to act like they know someone that would protray a character better than the actor that is already. Have you met any of those that you have to have play the part? No...Leave the decision makin to the directors! They know what their doin. THey do all the hiring and I think they can handle the task that is at hand. They're professionals and you're not! Hugh Jackman does Wolverine JUSTICE! Story CLOSED....Nightcrawler needs to come back. Gambit, and new x-men need to be added. Bigger Villians that Ian McKellen need to be added into the franchise like Mr. Sinister, and Apocalypse.

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fair enuff, the actors had some shabby writing to work with, but pyro was so terrible in X3, with his fight with bobby, who was also poor, and actually I am a indie film director, so I HAVE met actors who would do a better job, so I think even by your tight rules, I am free to comment on the poor acting quality, thanks!

 

[MaleRogue]

I like all the characters except Anna that plays "Rogue". Xavier, Cyclops, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Iceman, Pyro, Phoenix, Beast, Angel were all good. IDK Why people gotta have to act like they know someone that would protray a character better than the actor that is already. Have you met any of those that you have to have play the part? No...Leave the decision makin to the directors! They know what their doin. THey do all the hiring and I think they can handle the task that is at hand. They're professionals and you're not! Hugh Jackman does Wolverine JUSTICE! Story CLOSED....Nightcrawler needs to come back. Gambit, and new x-men need to be added. Bigger Villians that Ian McKellen need to be added into the franchise like Mr. Sinister, and Apocalypse.

​

Rogue is the best one of all
Wolverine sucks because he is full of ****

 

[spideyboy_1111]

^ But cliffhangers or whatever are still impotant people can just leave that there and say we wont have any x4.


Proessor X body swap nobody has anyu idea about so whatever anybody says it is just an opinion It could go anywhere. Why did Xavier choose that body? Nobody knows why. This could go on and on until an x4 comes out or more information is released

*my head hurts...*

can i ask how old you are? because you completely arn't understanding what i'm talking about... either that or not wording what you mean correctly. Again, everything you have stated, is a cliff hanger, not a plot hole. All of wich would be answered in the next installment.. whether its a sequal... or spinoff. Also.. alot of audience members never even saw the after the credits scene due to them getting up and leaving... and those who did.. who didn't understand... if they care enough, would rewatch the movie and notice plainly.. that theres the scene with Xavier teaching the class explaining exactly what he did. We also dont need to know who the body was persay.. because its just a random human (unless its explained in a future movie) that is brain dead... and unable to live a consious life off of a medical bed (wich was explained when xavier taught the class)

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Those are the most idiotic ideas ever.

Reason #1... Cyclops is already dead...No fight... End of story.

Reason #1A... Even if Cyke was alive and Wolverine gutted him, there's no more Cyke for the next movie for him to support the next idiotic idea you listed in Reason #2. Wolverine also gets kicked off the team (Ever think of that?)... Yeah, great way to destroy two of the movie's main characters buddy. That idea is no better that what the producers came up with for the X3 story.

Reason #2... Why should anyone give a flying #&@% about three Mr. Sinister movies? And what the hell could he possibly offer that would take three movies to explain? ... " Oh look at me, I have evil intentions, and I can splice genes"... I believe the movie "Island Of Dr. Moreau" took only one movie to explain.

Reason #3... How the bloody hell are you going to explain the creation and back story of Apocalypse in a modern day movie, AND have him destroyed by the end of that movie? ... Yeah, that's studio money put to good use.

You really need to think about what you're saying before you open your mouth. Because what you're suggesting makes about as much sense as Milligan and Austen's run.

ok 1) your being way too harsh...

2) no on screen death means there's a huge chance they could apt to
bring him back

3) Cyke and Wolvie have fought many a times in the comics... Wolverine doesnt have to "gut him" i suggest reading Astonishing X-men #1 for a good example. He also wouldnt have to be kicked off the team.. wich also didnt

4) OK.... well as i dont think there should be 3 sinister movies... he should have one. and you sound really imature btw...

5) Apocaypse though.. i dont think would work in the movie verse.. thats why i would be ok with just a nod from him... maybe sinister creates the horsemen and calls it "project apocalypse" or something..

6) and finally, you have no room to talk about opening ones mouth before they speak you just proved that.

 

[Psylocke8]

*my head hurts...*

can i ask how old you are? because you completely arn't understanding what i'm talking about... either that or not wording what you mean correctly. Again, everything you have stated, is a cliff hanger, not a plot hole. All of wich would be answered in the next installment.. whether its a sequal... or spinoff. Also.. alot of audience members never even saw the after the credits scene due to them getting up and leaving... and those who did.. who didn't understand... if they care enough, would rewatch the movie and notice plainly.. that theres the scene with Xavier teaching the class explaining exactly what he did. We also dont need to know who the body was persay.. because its just a random human (unless its explained in a future movie) that is brain dead... and unable to live a consious life off of a medical bed (wich was explained when xavier taught the class)

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WOW........ two minds really dont think alike. People wonder abot diffrent things. This a really stupid thing to be arguing about.
* Grabs advil* God....

 

[Mike059jig]

Whateva she clearly trying to keep the fans optimistic just like Kenberg and penn on the Xverse forX3...They ain't gonna be an X4 Fox already said No...I and Pray that they're aren't any movies...cause all three movies buried the hatchet that the X-men are only guranteed to survive in the media not of a team aspect but of one character...its already starting with his movie coming and his cartoon

 

[LoGaN's RuNNer]

yes, well you dont sign actors for nothing now do you?
she stated, clearly, that they have signed actors...
there will be an x4...
they obviously havent decided wether they want a new bred or not, wich is easy to see why i mean the previous cast would be easier to generate money from as its easily recognisable and are the staple characters... new actors could represent a slide in profits maybe...
we will just have to wait and see

Yeah? They also signed Peter Mayhew one for a Starwars 7, but you don't see that happening do you?

 

[genufine]

Those are the most idiotic ideas ever.

Reason #1... Cyclops is already dead...No fight... End of story.

Reason #1A... Even if Cyke was alive and Wolverine gutted him, there's no more Cyke for the next movie for him to support the next idiotic idea you listed in Reason #2. Wolverine also gets kicked off the team (Ever think of that?)... Yeah, great way to destroy two of the movie's main characters buddy. That idea is no better that what the producers came up with for the X3 story.

Reason #2... Why should anyone give a flying #&@% about three Mr. Sinister movies? And what the hell could he possibly offer that would take three movies to explain? ... " Oh look at me, I have evil intentions, and I can splice genes"... I believe the movie "Island Of Dr. Moreau" took only one movie to explain.

Reason #3... How the bloody hell are you going to explain the creation and back story of Apocalypse in a modern day movie, AND have him destroyed by the end of that movie? ... Yeah, that's studio money put to good use.

You really need to think about what you're saying before you open your mouth. Because what you're suggesting makes about as much sense as Milligan and Austen's run.

Those are the most idiotic ideas ever? This guys is pretty sour. What are you like - 11? You are obviously losing more reputation as you keep posting - so keep going.

Anyways, #1 - Do you think Cyclops and Wolverine have never fought before in the comics? You OBVIOUSLY dont know much about them fighting so I suggest you shut your mouth. AoA, Ultimate, and other comics have shown this. It would never end with Wolverine gutting cyke - another reason to show your limited reasoning. oh and btw he isnt dead - believe it.

#2 - Why would anyone give a flying rats A$$ about Magneto in three movies. Now your limited reasoning is going to say it as Stryker in X2, but Sinister being the main villain for another trilogy was the same concept as Magneto being the same villain for the first trilogy. Apocalypse can be introduced as a cliffhanger in the 2nd movie.

#3 - Simple. X3 was able to do a CURE, PHOENIX, tons of new characters, small plot holes (kitty/iceman/rogue) and other things. Dont you think with better writers they could do this?

Finally, I suggest you post. I like to see you're comebacks. I actually do enjoy it. Now why dont you think a bit more mr. Professor. LOL!

ok 1) your being way too harsh...

2) no on screen death means there's a huge chance they could apt to
bring him back

3) Cyke and Wolvie have fought many a times in the comics... Wolverine doesnt have to "gut him" i suggest reading Astonishing X-men #1 for a good example. He also wouldnt have to be kicked off the team.. wich also didnt

4) OK.... well as i dont think there should be 3 sinister movies... he should have one. and you sound really imature btw...

5) Apocaypse though.. i dont think would work in the movie verse.. thats why i would be ok with just a nod from him... maybe sinister creates the horsemen and calls it "project apocalypse" or something..

6) and finally, you have no room to talk about opening ones mouth before they speak you just proved that.

1 - Not harsh, lol. Hes actually just dissing himself.
2 - Agreed. My point exactly.
3 - He wouldnt know.
4 - Sinister one movie would be too small. I think he needs to be the main villain and start something on Apocalype by mid #2 movie. And as for the immature comment, again hes only dissing himself.
5 - I think Apocalypse will work. I just think they will twist it a bit( ie. phoenix and personality disorder). Something like making wolverine part of the horsemen or some stuff like that.
6) Hes proving alot of things to everyone here

 

[ProfeZZor X]

Those are the most idiotic ideas ever? This guys is pretty sour. What are you like - 11? You are obviously losing more reputation as you keep posting - so keep going.

Anyways, #1 - Do you think Cyclops and Wolverine have never fought before in the comics? You OBVIOUSLY dont know much about them fighting so I suggest you shut your mouth. AoA, Ultimate, and other comics have shown this. It would never end with Wolverine gutting cyke - another reason to show your limited reasoning. oh and btw he isnt dead - believe it.

#2 - Why would anyone give a flying rats A$$ about Magneto in three movies. Now your limited reasoning is going to say it as Stryker in X2, but Sinister being the main villain for another trilogy was the same concept as Magneto being the same villain for the first trilogy. Apocalypse can be introduced as a cliffhanger in the 2nd movie.

#3 - Simple. X3 was able to do a CURE, PHOENIX, tons of new characters, small plot holes (kitty/iceman/rogue) and other things. Dont you think with better writers they could do this?

Finally, I suggest you post. I like to see you're comebacks. I actually do enjoy it. Now why dont you think a bit more mr. Professor. LOL!



1 - Not harsh, lol. Hes actually just dissing himself.
2 - Agreed. My point exactly.
3 - He wouldnt know.
4 - Sinister one movie would be too small. I think he needs to be the main villain and start something on Apocalype by mid #2 movie. And as for the immature comment, again hes only dissing himself.
5 - I think Apocalypse will work. I just think they will twist it a bit( ie. phoenix and personality disorder). Something like making wolverine part of the horsemen or some stuff like that.
6) Hes proving alot of things to everyone here

I'd be more than happy to provide you with a rebuttal, my overconfident and presumptuous posting pal. And for your information, I’ve been in enough confrontations in this forum to hold my own. Whether or not anyone cares about my “reputation” is inconsequential, as the fact remains that I still get my point across. There are hundreds of people in this forum that post things others may or may not like. If you don’t like it, don’t read it or don’t respond. Which brings us back to my original post in this thread.

If you’re going post something that starts off with: “Don’t even bother reading what I have to say next”, don’t cower behind any justification or validation that you were right and I was incorrect, because I expressed my opinions of what should naturally happen next. Then, accuse me of being immature for responding in the same manner in which you did. Before you make an accusation like that, be sure you know what you’re talking about and get a dictionary so you can understand the concept of free speech.

It’s people like you that kill off franchises like this with your poignant and jaded perceptions of a perfect fan boy’s film, with complex characters that are too difficult for the GENERAL PUBLIC to understand. They are a waste of everyone’s energy, not to mention the studio’s money to appeal to fan boys like you. These movies aren’t made for you; they’re made with the intent to appeal to the GENERAL AUDIENCE, that’s already familiarized themselves with the existing characters and fundamental universe they live in.


And as a bonus, I would be more than happy to grant you a retort on your earlier comments:

1) From a filmmaker’s standpoint, it makes no sense to have two of the main characters engaged in a physical confrontation. The rivalry that translates onscreen through verbal retaliations is enough to lead the audience into thinking there is something there, but considering they're both trying to win the affection of one woman, it utterly makes no sense for them to fight over her. Especially when it takes away from the concept of the movie... Mutants uniting.

2) Not that I would have preferred Magneto to be in all three movies, let alone Stryker in the second one, having to introduce another villain is too much of a gamble for the studio, since the GENERAL AUDIENCE is already use to this character (Magneto) from the first two movies. Plus, with the studio’s precognitive intent on ending this series with this third movie, “The LAST stand”, the actor’s contract, and other legal obligations were probably another determining factor. Not only that, but Fox shot itself in the foot by killing off some of the main characters, which ties into the whole “Sinister” plot in the first place.

3) As clichéd as it would be for a villain (Magneto) to “awake” an ancient and more powerful foe to aid in his fight against humans (Apocalypse), and advance a homo-superior nation, it simply doesn’t fall within the pre-established realities for this movie universe. That’s like bringing in “Indiana Jones” elements into a Star Wars movie.

And lastly…

… "Wolverine as part of the Horseman, and stuff like that”… When you have any iota of thought to realize how stupid that concept is, get back with me.

 

[Psylocke8]

^I hear ya espically for the top part.