SpideyInATree
Chillin' Like a Villain
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shinlyle said:So...if we start up topics about how Joey Q and JMS sucks and they always will, and then run and hide every time someone tries to debate with us, that'll make you happy?
Please.
There have been a dozen or so Iron Spidey threads popping up over the last week in support of a costume that roughly 70% of the posters on this board hate. Then, when the people behind the changes (in costume and character) admit that they screwed up, all their little lap-dog supporters run off and refuse to comment? What does that make them? Cowards. No way around it.
Where is Iron Spidy (the poster) nowadays? Where is Kainedamo? Where is Won'08? They all seem to appear with some asanine topic about how JMS is a Genius or the "Other" ruled or some such crap, and then they are gone. Now that the professionals have admitted that the ideas they've been spewing for months are utter crap, all the trolls have returned underground. That's what I'm saying. Did I call you by name? No. I have nothing against you, even though you have a freakin' mad-on for me. You post here regardless of whether or not anyone likes you. That is annoying, but it is also to be commended.
I'm tired of people not having the balls to stand up for what they feel. Some people are such mindless slaves to marvel, that I'm sure they'll be in here soon talking about how they don't like "The Other" anymore, simply because JMS and Joey Q said it was crap. It's going to happen. Just wait and see. People will change their tunes and start embracing whatever else they are spoon-fed. Proof that they didn't form an opinion of their own on the story, they just believed the hype and bought into it. That makes them mindless.
As for your "Joey C is EIC and there's nothing we can do about it" crap, you need to stall that s***. If you really believe tha there is nothing that you can do, then you are spineless. You want to get rid of him, then vote with your wallet! Quit buying New Avengers or Whatever book he's hyping that maybe doesn't deserve the praise. There's always something you can do! Buying books you despise and going along with things you disagree with is never the way to be, man.I don't like the direction of ASM or FNSM, so guess what? I'm dropping them. That's right. Marvel is losing 6 bucks and some change every month until I start buying those books again. Will that get Joey Q to resign and turn Marvel over to someone with more respect for the characters? No. What if everyone did that, though? What if people quit incessantly b****ing about the books they buy, and just quit buying them when they stopped liking them? Change would follow.
So, if I offended you....tough. I'm not here to be liked. I'm not aiming for you. I'm not sitting here saying "Let's hit Spideyinatree right between the eyes". I'm simply pointing out things that are true about certain posters and their behaviors. If you don't lime it, then I'm sorry.
And no, enjoying the current stories doesn't make you less of a fan. Still, you should be able to tell us why you enjoyed tham and what you thought was so great about them. If you just like the books because the writer/artist/publisher says you should, then, yeah, I'd say that makes you less of a fan. I'd say it makes you a tool. (not saying you are)
So, there. That's my rebuttle. As for educating these "worthless, mindless cowards", I can only calmly ask them why they like books and ask them their thoughts on things so many times before I begin to remember that old saying:
"You can't teach those who refuse to listen".
So, you're upset because these guys make threads that you don't agree with? Now a nice debate is great. All I'm trying to say is: Is it really necessary to insult people all the time? I don't know your entire history with those other posters that you mentioned. Maybe they insulted you first.
But I'm also pointing at those posters too. Not everyone is so innocent here in these forums.
And I know you didn't point out my name. But a few other posters HAVE pointed out my name into a "group" that I'm not really a part of. No, I'm not enjoying something simply because I'm told to. I enjoy things because it's how I feel. But I'm also not going to let myself be alienated here because I'm not saying, "I'm not reading Spider-Man comics anymore until they do what I want". Maybe that's how you feel. And others feel.
But I don't. Like I said, I'm different than a lot of you guys on these forums. I don't take things so seriously. Spider-Man is a comic book character and I don't like EVERY THING that's written in every Spider-Man book. There are things that irk me and things I dislike. But just simply because I dislike a few things doesn't mean I'm going to give up on the character.
I'm a Spider-Man fan. Have been since I was 8 years old. I like reading Spider-Man, through the good times and the bad. But just because I dislike a few things doesn't mean I'm going to give up the book.
Maybe you, and other posters, want to campaign and not read the book. You guys do what you have to do. But I love Spider-Man too much to give up the book simply because I thought Reginald Hudlin's portion of The Other was a disgrace to comic books. Or because Sins Past was such a horrible, horrible idea. Just set backs and lessons that need to be learned by future creators that things in the past should be left there.
But the entire point is, we're all Spider-Man fans. We're all comic book fans. You'd think that we'd really all get along fairly well. But that's not the case, unfortunately, and because one guy thinks Spider-Man's suit is awful and the other things its awesome....does it really call for each of us to be so condescending and hateful? Neither side is wrong when they state their opinions. Yet a small debate about a fictional character we all love turns into giant flame wars of he said, she said. And nobody comes out the wiser either.