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Sonic the Hedgehog 2

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It was always Crash > Sonic > Mario for me growing up. That said, I didn't grow up with an N64, and my first console was the original Playstation, and had a Game Gear and only had Sonic games on it haha.
my brothers were Mario, I was never totally into it, so got the game gear, had sonic... liked it, but soon got over it.
Then Mario Kart showed up..

Then Golden eye!!!

Then Mario kart 64
 
Would you call $340 - $390 million a success?

Seems a tad low to me.

The Pandemic is still going on...so there is some hesitation from some viewers to go back.

And the first film BARLEY made $320 million globally.

Sonic 1
DOMESTIC (46.6%)
$148,974,665
INTERNATIONAL (53.4%)
$170,741,018
WORLDWIDE
$319,715,683

Sonic 2 as of 4/17

DOMESTIC (51.6%)
$119,612,388
INTERNATIONAL (48.4%)
$112,200,000
WORLDWIDE

$231,812,388

Its got a couple more weeks before Doc Strange takes over; so i'm expecting a boost in $$$
 
I think they did a great job with Sonic 2.

Even the ridiculous wedding scene was still fun. Not going to kill anyone to let the side characters do something for a few minutes. It was a fun part of a fun movie. I liked getting to see Tails' gear getting to shine even if the character was out of commission.

A really nice step up from the original. Let the main character truly shine on an adventure. Sonic was allowed to grow a bit. And I appreciate putting his new family off to the side a bit and letting him take the spotlight. They are still family, but he can do a lot on his own.

Tails was a great addition to the cast. The adventure also serving as a chance for him to grow. And I'm looking forward to seeing what his character will develop into in the third movie as well.

Knuckles was done really well. His power was beyond dispute. And he really did play the lovable idiot nicely. It's a shame that his feeling of friendship was one-sided, but at least things worked out for him in the end.

If this is the end of Carrey's Robotnik that's alright. He had a great showing in the first two movies. Heading into god mode for a while there was also pretty fun. Of course if he changes his mind and comes back for another movie that wouldn't be a bad thing at all. Still more they can do with him or at least more things he can make happen if he's around. But regardless he was a lot of fun in this movie.

Hopefully the movie continues doing well. Should of course outpace the first film that was cut short in the theaters. And it's a good sign for video game movies anyways. Fixing that original design saved a whole franchise and showed what success they can have when making sure not to alienate people. Waited a week and the theaters still seemed pretty packed for this. So it should be able to keep going just fine until something huge like Doctor Strange grabs people.
 
This is a self-defeating prophecy. This is why these movies are stuck in the 60 percent range on Rotten Tomatoes when people were hoping Sonic 2 would go over 70%.

It seems to me audiences for the vast majority like these furry aliens and mad scientist and find them believable.

And every review I read, the complaints are the same. The wedding subplot was dumb and went on too long.

Maybe some casual moms and dads enjoyed that. But if that wasn't there, would they have hated the movie and not had a good time?

Do Transformers movies need Sam's mom eating pot brownies and tackling college kids because teenage boys think it's funny?



To me it's not balanced enough and that's why these aren't GREAT movies.

I mean, I'm not saying I would have personally written those scenes that way, or that they were absolutely necessary...I think the MCU has demonstrated that casual audiences can be brought on board with the more fantastical stuff if you work hard enough at it. I'm just saying that they are who those scenes are made for.

However, your example with the pot brownies in Transformers illustrates my point about the vast gulf between how Transformers handles things and how Sonic handles things.

The pot brownie scene was mindless, pointless nonsense, a non sequitur that added nothing but some additional low-brow humor in a movie that was already packed with it.

Whereas the wedding scene ties into the flow of the plot in a coherant and meaningful way.
Robotnik steals the compass, leaving Sonic to be buried in an avalanche. Sonic escapes the avalanche using the warp ring he gave to Tom, reuniting Sonic with his adoptive family and merging the A and B plot threads. Sonic then gets captured by government agents who had infiltrated Sonic's family in order to get close to him, at which point Maddie and Rachel have to rescue him using gadgets they got from Tails. While Sonic is captured and being rescued, Robotnik and Knuckles use the compass to travel to the master emerald's location and activate it. Sonic is then successfully rescued and has to go confront Robotnik and Knuckles.
Overall there is a logical flow of events, which the Transformers movies typically lack.

Additionally, whereas the pot brownie scene told us nothing meaningful about the characters other than reminding us that everyone in this story is a bunch of goofballs, the wedding scene provided development to the characters it involved, and showcased the effect Sonic's presence can inadvertantly have on his adoptive family member's lives. It also ended up showing off some more of Tails' scientific genuis as they used his various gadgets.

It wasn't a perfectly crafted narrative by any means, but on a vastly higher level of competency and respect for storytelling compared to what we got from Transformers.
 
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I don't think the wedding subplot does with how much screentime it gets.
 
Finally saw this y'all!

I had an absolute blast with this. SO much bigger and better than the first one with lots of great surprises! The movie was about 10 mins too long and there were some overly goofy bits i could have done without but overall everything rocked in this. They really went big epic scale in this one and I LOVED it. I couldnt believe 35 year old me was getting giddy and cheering when in the third act
Sonic became Super Sonic
.

I was so pleased with this film. I hope this is doing well at the box office because they finally found a video game movie director who actually gives a damn about the video they're adapting.
 
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That animation for Sonic Origins looks great! Everything looks & sounds awesome. Only complaint... No physical copy?!
 
I'm really glad he's been the director for these films. I believe he also worked on the Shadow of the Hedgehog game in some capacity too, which is really cool.
 
A cinemascore wow, awesome! :up:
 
Hmmm wonder if the studio's happy with that result. It seems...good not great. Movie deserves a lot more money. Surprised more kids arent flocking to this.
It's #4 for the year, and #3 for movies released in 2022 (one of which is The Batman). Paramount should be more than happy with $300m after [checks notes] under three weeks.

I'll keep beating this drum: theatrical releases in 2022 cannot be compared to 2019. COVID's not over just because midterms are coming and if a family can't afford to spend an ass-ton on going to a theater, then there's only so much of a pie a studio can take. They know this, which is why studios invest in their streaming services. 60% share of box office grosses for a movie every quarter at best, or $5/mo in perpetuity mainlined into their corporate veins?
 
Hmmm wonder if the studio's happy with that result. It seems...good not great. Movie deserves a lot more money. Surprised more kids arent flocking to this.

Domestically, it’s going to be the highest grossing video game movie. I don’t see why they wouldn’t. Don’t let it not making Spider-Man or Batman money downplay its success.
 

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