Homecoming Sony E-mails on wikileaks

[spider-neil]

If Sony are smart they will simply defer to Marvel. Daredevil was mind blowing. THE best thing Marvel have ever done IMHO. Leave Marvel to it, they are on a serious roll right now.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Re: Fwd: Re:

Spoiler

Of course

On May 5, 2014, at 9:11 AM, "Pascal, Amy" <Amy_Pascal@m> wrote:


some good ideas....right
On May 5, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Tolmach, Matthew wrote:


Alrighty

On May 5, 2014, at 8:41 AM, "Pascal, Amy" <Amy_Pascal@> wrote:


Told him about girl project

On May 5, 2014, at 8:17 AM, "Tolmach, Matthew" <Matthew_Tolmach@> wrote:

What is this about

On May 5, 2014, at 8:16 AM, "Pascal, Amy" <Amy_Pascal@> wrote:



Begin forwarded message:

From: Avi Arad <[email protected]>
Date: May 5, 2014 at 8:11:53 AM PDT
To: "Pascal, Amy" <>
Subject: Re:

ann weiying was venom's wife and later xwife.when he saves her she becomes she venom.shriek was connected to carnage and to venom.
On May 4, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Pascal, Amy wrote:

I HOPW YOU ALL ARE CELEBRATING
I DONT KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WAS YOU HAD A
MOVIE MAKE 360 MILLION DOLLARS IN TEN DAYS
BUT ITS BEEN QUITE A

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Re:

Spoiler

Other people I've received calls about -

Ruben Fleischer
Nick Stoller?

On Mar 19, 2014, at 2:16 PM, "Belgrad, Doug" <

Kasdan

On Mar 19, 2014, at 2:02 PM, "Pascal, Amy" <
GB:
CHRIS AND PHIL
PAUL FEIG
ADAM MCKAY
TODD PHILLIPS
JAY ROACH
WILL GLUCK
GREG MATOLLA
JUDD APATOW
MATT AND TREY
SETH MCFARLINE
BRAD BIRD

WHO ELSE DID WE SAY?
On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:30 PM, Pascal, Amy wrote:


I STARTED THIS LIST FOR OUR FRIDAY MEETING BUT THEN FIGURED YOU ALL COULD FILL IT OUT BETTER THAN ME
AND JUST WANTED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT WE NEED

TENT POLES:

SPIDERMAN

SINISTER SIX

VENOM AND CARNAGE

DOC SAVAGE

THE GIRLS

MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE

CLEOPATRA

UNCHARTED

GOOSEBUMPS

JUMANGI

MEN IN BLACK

JAMES BOND

SABRINA THE TEENAGE WITCH

PETER RABBIT

GRAN TURISMO

FIFTH WAVE

CANDYLAND

STUART LITTLE

BLOOD SHOT

RABBIDS

SHADOW OF COLOSSUS

SINBAD

WINTERS KNIGHT

ZORRO

WATCH DOGS

STARSHIP TROPPERS

STARGATE

DISTRICT 10



TENTPOLE ORIGINALS:

PIXILS

DODGE AND TWIST

ROYAL HONOR SOCIETY

SINGULARITY

EPSILON

GRAFETTI

APOLLO RISING

HOUDINI











SEQUELS AND REMAKES:

SALT

KARATE KID

CHARLIES ANGELS

MALL COP

MILLENIUM SERIES

EQUALIZER

LITTLE WOMAN

2012

BAD BOYS

ROBERT LANGDON SERIES

FLATLINERS

MAG 7

BLUE THUNDER

STEP BROTHERS

PINE APPLE

GOODTIMES

GROWN UPS







FAMILY MOVIES:

MATILDA

JUMANGI

CANDYLAND

RAISED BY GHOSTS

STUART LITTLE

LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRARIE

CHRISTIAN THE LION

JIMANGI



THRILLERS:

RELIABLE WIFE

DEATH OF A HEART



ACTION:

CUIDAD

5 AGAINST THE BULLET

ROCKETS RED GLARE









LOVE STORYS AND ROMANTIC COMEDY:

ROYAL WEDDING

LOST IN AUSTIN

LADY CHATTERLY

LOVE MAY FAIL





DRAMA:

JOBS

MOONWALKING







COMEDY:

MY WIFE HATES YOUR WIFE

CONSOLE WARS

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Over 170,000 emails I'll search through them some more later

 

[Val_Zod]

Man, some of the story suggestions they had was borderline fan fiction levels of bad.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

If Sony are smart they will simply defer to Marvel. Daredevil was mind blowing. THE best thing Marvel have ever done IMHO. Leave Marvel to it, they are on a serious roll right now.

i thought that's pretty much what's happening?

 

[spider-neil]

Man, some of the story suggestions they had was borderline fan fiction levels of bad.

To be fair, you have to see the finished product before judging. For instance, if someone told you the plot for Robocop (without you seeing the movie) you'd laugh at how corny it sounds.

 

[Webhead2006]

Again we have to remember most of these emails was way before asm2 was released and there plans changed. Or was just random chats between x person and y person but random thoughts or opinions. Who knows what is what now. That the deal is over and is happening.

As for sony now they more then likely are letting or would be stupid not to let marvel handle all the creative stuff. And sit back and let the marvel magic happens. So sony gets a good movie marvel gets a good movie and it's a won win for all.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

i thought that's pretty much what's happening?

We dont know for sure, but it definitely seems to have shaped up that way when sony realized they were producing some ****** stuff

To be fair, you have to see the finished product before judging. For instance, if someone told you the plot for Robocop (without you seeing the movie) you'd laugh at how corny it sounds.

To be fair you could say that about just about any movie (or show for that matter)

 

[spider-neil]

i thought that's pretty much what's happening?

Let's hope so

 

[Webhead2006]

Haha them thinking cause cause a character they have rights to in comics in one spot not tied to spidey world can be used.


Here is a good question. With the Sony leak email. Being like 170,000 how many where in regards to spidey.

 

[Val_Zod]

To be fair, you have to see the finished product before judging. For instance, if someone told you the plot for Robocop (without you seeing the movie) you'd laugh at how corny it sounds.

I would if I enjoyed TASM 1 and TASM 2, but I didn't, thus all I see is a bunch of clueless execs who are just throwing around awful ideas that don't mesh well at all.

 

[spider-neil]

Sony just need to be patience and see how this new Spider-Man pans out. Wait and see what the audience respond to and THEN make your move. Plans for S6 should be shelved for the time being.

If I were going to pitch Sony an idea, I would suggest 'Marvel Team-up' on the big screen.

Spider-Man/Daredevil
Spider-Man/Punisher

Keep it street level and let Marvel handle the 'big villians'

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Haha them thinking cause cause a character they have rights to in comics in one spot not tied to spidey world can be used.


Here is a good question. With the Sony leak email. Being like 170,000 how many where in regards to spidey.

Who knows. Some of it is channing tatum being an idiot, some I jonah hill talking about the mib/ jump street crossover being rad and fresh and cool, plus some other Ghostbusters nonsense. Really just a jumbled mess of unprofessional ramblings, potshots, and ego strokings

 

[Webhead2006]

Totally we know they stupid on spidey. But who cares about the other stuff really. In my book so what this person. Or that person was saying this or that. These where private emails. Not meant for the public or what the real direction. Some things would take. Same with the pot shots at certain actors. It's no different then say you pissed off at a friend or family member and say some crap thing in a post or txt.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Seems like Dylan and Sony have a good relationship

5th Wave



Nick and Alex know they got the job. They're ecstatic. Announcement will be made any second.

Dylan's reps know he didn't get it but I gave them a lot of love. I haven't been able to reach Dylan yet but I will. And I'm going down there in just over a week and will make sure he feels good about our relationship and future together.


I know you have a lot of agents on your phone sheet. I think best to wait until the announcement goes out in the next 10 minutes or so…

 

[Webhead2006]

Do we got context of that email?

 

[JOE]

So is that email confirming he didn't get the role?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

Nope thats from summer last year for a movie called 5th wave. He was caught up with scorch trials or something so he couldnt do it. Its just evidence that Sony likes him and they have a good relationship

 

[spider-neil]

Should bear in mind these emails are year old. A lot can change in a week, never mind a year.

 

[Doc Ock]

My goodness Sony really are a bunch of fools.

 

[spider-neil]

Marvel's recent track record:
Cap 2
GotG
Daredevil

Seriously Sony, just hand them the cheque and let the get on with it. Have long lunches and watch the money roll in.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Should bear in mind these emails are year old. A lot can change in a week, never mind a year.

The important ones to me start in October. That's when the deal was being worked out

 

[Pecola1]

Marvel's recent track record:
Cap 2
GotG
Daredevil

Seriously Sony, just hand them the cheque and let the get on with it. Have long lunches and watch the money roll in.

It is a really interesting way that they did the deal... SOny just allowing Marvel complete control over Spidey for his solos might not be reallistic in terms of money.
The deal (from my little knowledge):
1. Marvel can use Spidey in team up movies at no cost. (similar to hulk)
2. Sony gets Kevin Feige as a producer for the Spidey solo movies. (Essentially giving at least half control to Marvel)
3. Money: Sony makes all money on solos/spider-man movies, Marvel makes all money on Marvel team up movies.

So suggesting that Sony pay Marvel to have 100% control is a bit silly at first sight. So Sony will be paying Marvel to make a Sony movie, and Sony wont do any work? Essentially this would mean Sony makes money while doing nothing other than paying a small amount of that money to Marvel. It sound's like Sony gets the good end of the deal, but if Sony's Spider-Man becomes part of the MCU, then Marvel would need to really want control over it all. Honestly though, if Amy Pascal is still going to be working on it alongside Kevin, I think everyone including Amy will know who the expert on making a good movie for the MCU will be. My guess is Marvel already technically has more control over it all.

That's also part of it though, Sony want's to at least feel like they have control, and Marvel also want's control. I do think Sony is more in it for the moolah, but they still care about spidey, and have some creative idea's to contribute. Honestly, I just wanna see leaked emails from afterwards between Feige and Amy, where Amy has a crazy stupid idea and Feige is just like: That's a creative idea, but no one likes it, and it won't work.

 

[Marvel Spider]

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