Spider-Man: Edge of Time - Part 2

[spider13]

Name the top ten greatest games of all time.

Also if you guys had played ff7 you wouldn't be saying there is a better game then it you would be trying to argue that its a sandbox game.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

have you play final fantasy 7?

So how far did you get in the game?

I have met a person who's played the game and has come out of it saying that it was one of the best games they have ever play.

and I'm not saying rdr wasn't a good game because it was but I can't think of one sandbox game that bets a liner game.

I would also like to add metal gear solid to that list of great games.

You can free roam in RPG's
MGS has free roam too within the game, unlock the whole area and you can go back and fourth as you please

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Name the top ten greatest games of all time.

Also if you guys had played ff7 you wouldn't be saying there is a better game then it you would be trying to argue that its a sandbox game.

I like Chrono Cross more

 

[spider13]

what are you saying.

 

[spider13]

wtf is chrono cross

 

[Spider-Aziz]

what are you saying.

I'm saying what I'm saying, those games you mentioned are free roam

wtf is chrono cross

Another RPG from the devs of FF7

 

[Anno_Domini]

Name the top ten greatest games of all time.

Also if you guys had played ff7 you wouldn't be saying there is a better game then it you would be trying to argue that its a sandbox game.

The Final Fantasy series doesn't interest me.

Top ten greatest games of all time is something I can't really do at the top of my head, but I would bring in Arkham Asylum, BioShock 1 and 2, Gears of War 1 and 2, Red Dead Redemption, Halo 3 and Mass Effect 1 and 2.

 

[spider13]

Not a one of those games is a sandbox game.

totally unrelated subject I would play ff7 to hell with the rest of the games there trash. but ff7 is a master piece I bought a ps2 just so I could play my mother copy of the game which has now become my copy.

ff7 not a sandbox game very liner. god of war, uncharted, metal gear solid, mario, sonic, crash, persona, legacy of kain ext are not sandbox games.

 

[Anno_Domini]

So to say I love sandbox games means I can only have sandbox games as my favorite game? That's so stupid.

And...RDR is sandbox. And the Mass Effect games are pretty damn close.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Not a one of those games is a sandbox game.

totally unrelated subject I would play ff7 to hell with the rest of the games there trash. but ff7 is a master piece I bought a ps2 just so I could play my mother copy of the game which has now become my copy.


ff7 not a sandbox game very liner. god of war, uncharted, metal gear solid, mario, sonic, crash, persona, legacy of kain ext are sandbox games.

What? God of War and Uncharted are not considered sandbox. Think Grand Theft Auto IV, that's sandbox.

This whole argument is asinine though. To say a sandbox game can't top a linear game is just, well wrong. That's been proven countless times over.

 

[spider13]

No not at all infamous has got to be one of the best games ever made.

You and project have been saying that sandbox games are better then liner I'm just pointing out that the best games are liner and I can see alot of great sandbox games getting right in there with them but come the end of the day there still isn't a sandbox game yet that has been hailed the greatest game ever.

I'm have plenty of sandbox games that I think are great just none that bet the best liner games and infamous is damn close.

 

[spider13]

What? God of War and Uncharted are not considered sandbox. Think Grand Theft Auto IV, that's sandbox.

This whole argument is asinine though. To say a sandbox game can't top a linear game is just, well wrong. That's been proven countless times over.

I'm not saying a sandbox game can't beat a liner game I'm just saying they haven't yet.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

No not at all infamous has got to be one of the best games ever made.

You and project have been saying that sandbox games are better then liner I'm just pointing out that the best games are liner and I can see alot of great sandbox games getting right in there with them but come the end of the day there still isn't a sandbox game yet that has been hailed the greatest game ever.

I'm have plenty of sandbox games that I think are great just none that bet the best liner games and infamous is damn close.

For starters the "best game ever" is HIGHLY subjective. You can't possibly try and make the claim that X game is the best of all time, it's just too subjective. I also didn't say sandbox games are the best, once again, as iv said before, a game is not made or broken based on rather or not it's linear/free roam. I did say that you can have open world games that rival the best linear games which for some odd ass reason u fail to understand.

But back to the original point, just because you put Spidey in an open world doesn't automatically mean you'll get a lesser game if u were to put him in a linear game.

 

[OmarBatGeek]

From what I've seen and played of RDR it's really not as amazingly fantastic as everyone keeps making it out to be. Sure it was fun and all, but the story didn't really interest me all that much...

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I'm not saying a sandbox game can't beat a liner game I'm just saying they haven't yet.

Haha dude, I can't go on any more. You just dont have a clue as to what u are talking about. According to metacritic, Red Dead Redemption is better than God Of War 3. GoW is the linear title. Argument over man.

 

[OmarBatGeek]

But back to the original point, just because you put Spidey in an open world doesn't automatically mean you'll get a lesser game if u were to put him in a linear game.

That's not even the point. The point was that a break from sandbox games wouldn't kill anyone. We've had enough in the last few years and I'm glad to have another linear game headed my way. Also, just because it's linear doesn't mean that it won't be customizable and whatnot. Your experience won't be cheapened if you don't have an obscenely large map to swing around on.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

From what I've seen and played of RDR it's really not as amazingly fantastic as everyone keeps making it out to be. Sure it was fun and all, but the story didn't really interest me all that much...

No it is. Which is why it sits at a 95% score on metacritic.

 

[spider13]

I'm not saying that sandbox games can't be better I'm just saying I've never heard anyone say a sandbox game is there fav. ever. If I had to go to a desert island and could only take five games with me you know what they would be.

ff7
god of war 3
uncharted 2
metal gear solid
Infamous

So there is a sandbox game right there in my top 5.

I would also like to point out that we have had 7 spider man sandbox games and those game ran the idea and the property into the ground give it a few more years before we get another sandbox game.

One person has said that. also thats one game.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

That's not even the point. The point was that a break from sandbox games wouldn't kill anyone. We've had enough in the last few years and I'm glad to have another linear game headed my way. Also, just because it's linear doesn't mean that it won't be customizable and whatnot. Your experience won't be cheapened if you don't have an obscenely large map to swing around on.

Oh yea I agree. It's just my opinion that an open world best suits a character like Spider-Man.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I'm not saying that sandbox games can't be better I'm just saying I've never heard anyone say a sandbox game is there fav. ever. If I had to go to a desert island and could only take five games with me you know what they would be.

ff7
god of war 3
uncharted 2
metal gear solid
Infamous

So there is a sandbox game right there in my top 5.

I would also like to point out that we have had 7 spider man sandbox games and those game ran the idea and the property into the ground give it a few more years before we get another sandbox game.

One person has said that. also thats one game.

Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man 3
Ultimate Spider-Man
Spider-Man: WoS

I count 4 sandbox Spidey titles. What am I missing?

 

[OmarBatGeek]

You keep going to this metacritic site... Any other sites it sits that high up? One source doesn't really validate anything...

 

[spider13]

friend or foe not as much as the above but close enough.

rdr ratings and awards

Since its release, the game has received a large number of awards. It has been recognized as one of the best games of 2010. It won several Game of the Year awards from media outlets such as GameSpy,[61] GameSpot,[62] Good Game,[63] Computer and Video Games,[64] and Machinima.com,[65] among others.[66][67][68] The game's music also received awards for its original score from GameSpot, Machinima.com, and Spike TV.[69] José González also received an award from Spike for his original song, "Far Away".[69] The graphics received honors at the Korean Games Conference,[70] and from the television program Good Game.[71] Red Dead Redemption: Undead Nightmare also received Best Downloadable content awards from Spike TV, G4 TV and Game Revolution.[

GameRankings 94.76% (PS3)[33] 94.18% (X360)[34]
Metacritic 95/100 (PS3)[35] 95/100 (X360)[36]
GameStats 9.3/10 (PS3)[37]
9.3/10 (X360)[38] Review scores Publication Score 1UP.com A[39] Edge 9/10[40] Eurogamer 8/10[41] G4 5/5[42] Game Informer 9.75/10[43] GamePro

[44] GameSpot 9.5/10[45] GameSpy

[46] GamesTM 9/10[47] GameTrailers 9.5/10[48] IGN 9.7/10[49] Official PlayStation Magazine (UK) 10/10 Official Xbox Magazine (UK) 9/10[47] PALGN 9/10[50] Play Magazine 92/100

 

[dtud]

What the **** are you going on about Spider13? This must have been one of the weirdest argument I've ever read. An open world game can't be better than a linear one? Not that you haven't been proven wrong already, but by all accounts are Assassin's Creed 2 better than Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions.

And FF7 is not a linear game in the least.

 

[spider13]

heres ff7 stuff


92.1% (PS)
87% (PC) 92 / 100 10.0 / 10
Score A+

9.5 / 10 38 / 40

(PS)
4 1/2(PC) 9.5 / 10 (PS)
8.0 / 10 (PC) 9.5 / 10 (PS)
8.2 / 10 (PC) 5/5 90% (PC) 5/5 4/5(PC) 4/5(PC)
Final Fantasy VII was both a critical and commercial success, and set several sales records. Within three days of its release in Japan, the game had sold 2.3 million copies. This popularity inspired thousands of retailers in North America to break street dates in September to meet public demand for the title.In the game's debut weekend in North America, it sold 330,000 copies,and had reached sales of 500,000 units in less than three weeks.The momentum built in the game's opening weeks continued for several months; Sony announced the game had sold one million copies on the continent by early December,prompting business analyst Edward Williams from Monness, Crespi, Hardt & Co. to comment, "Sony redefined the role-playing game (RPG) category and expanded the conventional audience with the launch of Final Fantasy VII".Final Fantasy VII had sold over 9.8 million copies worldwide including Final Fantasy VII International as of December 2005, making it the highest-selling Final Fantasy title. Square's announcement that Final Fantasy VII would be produced for Sony rather than Nintendo and that it would not be based on the Final Fantasy SGI demo was met with discontent among gamers. The PlayStation Network release of the game was downloaded 100,000 times during its first two weeks of release, making it the fastest-selling PlayStation game on the PlayStation Network.As of May 2010, the game has sold 10 million copies worldwide.
Upon release, the game received near universal acclaim from critics. GameSpot commented that "never before have technology, playability, and narrative combined as well as in Final Fantasy VII", expressing particular favor toward the game's graphics, audio, and story. IGN's Jay Boor insisted the game's graphics were "light years beyond anything ever seen on the PlayStation", and regarded its battle system as its strongest point. RPGamer praised the game's soundtrack both in variety and sheer volume, stating that "Uematsu has done his work exceptionally well" and "is perhaps at his best here".
Since 1997, Final Fantasy VII has been selected by many game magazines—including Electronic Gaming Monthly, IGN and Gamespot—as one of the best and most important video games of all time, and has placed at or near the top in many reader polls of all-time best games. Upon its release in 1997, it was referred to by Gamefan as "quite possibly the greatest game ever made...," a quote which continues to feature prominently on the back cover of the game's jewel case. In January 2005, it was selected by Electronic Gaming Monthly as sixth on their list of "the 10 most important games ... that helped redefine the industry since ... 1989". Citing its "beautiful cut-scenes and a deep, introspective narrative", they claimed that "Square’s game was ... the first RPG to surpass, instead of copy, movie-like storytelling." In late 2007, Dengeki PlayStation named Final Fantasy VII as the "best story", "best RPG", and "best overall game" in their retrospective awards feature about the original PlayStation. GamePor's named it the fourteenth most important and most innovative video game of all-time, as well as the best RPG title of all time. Final Fantasy VII placed second in the "Top 100 Favorite Games of All Time" poll by Japanese magazine Famitsu during March 2006, while users of the video game website GameFAQs's voted Final Fantasy VII as the "Best Game Ever" in November 2005 and in 2004, and placed second in 2009.GamePro also featured it in their article "The 30 Best PSN Games" as one of the most downloaded games from the PlayStation Network. The game also made #15 on Game Informer's Top 200 Games of All Time, and came second place on Empire's "100 Greatest Games of All Time" list behind Super Mario World.
Final Fantasy VII has received negative criticism as well. GameSpy rated it seventh on their "25 Most Overrated Games" list in September 2003. Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine (OPM) and GameSpot questioned the game's highly linear progression. OPM considered the game's translation "a bit muddy" and felt the summon animations were "tedious". RPGamer cited its translation as "packed with typos and other errors which further obscure what is already a very confusing plot". GamePro also considered the Japanese-to-English translation a significant weakness in the game, and IGN regarded the option to use only three characters at a time as "the game's only shortcoming".
Reviewers praised the game's Windows conversion, but criticized it for its lower-quality pre-rendered visuals and audio, and for its framerate and installation problems; Computer Games Magazine said that "[no] game in recent memory" had its "tendency to fail to work in any capacity on multiple [computers]". Computer Gaming World complained that the "music, while beautifully composed, is butchered by being dependent on [a] sound card", and Next Generation Magazine found the game's pre-rendered backgrounds significantly less impressive than those of the PlayStation version. However, the latter magazine found the higher-resolution battle visuals "absolutely stunning", and Computer Games Magazine said that they "[show] off the power of [a] PC equipped with a 3D card". All three magazines concluded by praising the game despite its technical flaws, and PC Gamer US summarized that, while "Square apparently did only what was required to get its PlayStation game running under Windows", Final Fantasy VII is "still a winner on the PC".


Final Fantasy VII is credited as "the game that sold the PlayStation", as well as allowing console role-playing games to find a place in markets outside Japan, and (as measured in copies sold) remains the most popular title in the series. The game's popularity and open-ended nature also led director Kitase and scenario writer Nojima to establish a plot-related connection between Final Fantasy VII and final fantasy x. The character Shinra from Final Fantasy X-2 proposes the concept of extracting the life energy from within the planet Spira. Nojima has stated that Shinra and his proposal are a deliberate nod to the Shinra Company, and that he envisioned the events of Final Fantasy X-2 as a prequel to those in Final Fantasy VII.In addition to the PlayStation and PC releases, the game was released onto the playstation network in Japan on April 10, 2009, in America on June 2, 2009 and in Europe and Australia on June 4, 2009. The Japanese release is the International version. The game has also inspired the unofficial version of final fantasy 7 for the Nintendo entertainment system by Chinese company Shenzhen Nanjing Technology.

 

[spider13]

Okay on ff7 not being a liner game. until you get to disc three there is not much you can do in the game besides what it want you to do.

Also no one is listing I'm not saying a sandbox game can't beat a liner game I'm saying I have not seen one yet And for every one sandbox game there are 15 liner games that are better.

All I'm saying is spidey needs a break form the sandbox when we do sandbox we sacrifice all these other things we don't need to sack If you want a sandbox game like batman ac then I'm all with you but if you want the same rehashed stuff then I'm not with you.