Far From Home Spider-Man: Far From Home General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[Lilbaz]

I don't like the idea of the multiverse. It means any character that has died thus far can return; thus cheapening their death...including Uncle Ben.

I guess this is how Marvel introduces X-Men and the Fantastic 4.

It depends how they use it.

Say thanos destroying the stones has created a weakening between the different realities and mysterio isn't the only one coming though. Dark forces are threatening to enter our reality and it's the job of the heroes to strengthen the boundaries before our reality is destroyed.
That way there can be a multiverse but the consequences of travelling between them are too dangerous.

 

[ragingdemon155]

I’m surprised that so many people are jumping so firmly on board and believing Mysterio saying he’s from another universe so quickly.

I mean a character who’s entire persona is based on lies, deception, manipulation and illusions....and we all believe him ?
I’m not saying the multiverse isn’t a real thing in the MCU but is Mysterio really the guy to believe on this ? Lol

 

[Lilbaz]

I'm glad comic writers didn't have this mentality everytime they wanted to introduce a new concept into the Marvel Universe View attachment 24605
Otherwise, the prime Earth/616 would be very, VERY small.

That image above is what Marvel should strive for. Walling the X-Men and Fantastic Four off into their own universe runs counterintuitive to the benefits of Disney acquiring these properties in the first place.

No it really shouldn't. Superheroes should be special. You shouldn't be tripping over them.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I’m surprised that so many people are jumping so firmly on board and believing Mysterio saying he’s from another universe so quickly.

I mean a character who’s entire persona is based on lies, deception, manipulation and illusions....and we all believe him ?
I’m not saying the multiverse isn’t a real thing in the MCU but is Mysterio really the guy to believe on this ? Lol

S.H.I.E.L.D. believe him, that's why I put more stock into his word than I normally would. And he displays super powers.

 

[Lilbaz]

Look, I just want someone from Marvel (the Russos, Markus & McFeely, a fictional character, I don't care who) to explicitly confirm that the people who died during the five years before the events of Endgame were brought back along with the Snap victims. I don't think it's too much to ask.

Because right now it's unclear if they were and it's bothering the hell out of me. No one would consider Iron Man a hero if they knew the truth.

I bet if someone bought you a Ferrari you'd complain it was the wrong colour.

 

[Lilbaz]

I’m surprised that so many people are jumping so firmly on board and believing Mysterio saying he’s from another universe so quickly.

I mean a character who’s entire persona is based on lies, deception, manipulation and illusions....and we all believe him ?
I’m not saying the multiverse isn’t a real thing in the MCU but is Mysterio really the guy to believe on this ? Lol

Mysterio might be lying about coming from another earth but i'd guess they are going on more than just his word that there is a multiverse.

 

[Abudefduf]

I'll say this could be like how in CW series they call the main line Earth-1, Zoom's land Earth-2, and Jay Garrick's world Earth-3. It contradicts with wiki entries if you think too hard about them, but they are references to different worlds in comics.

Yeah but that's funny is that it would force them to change so much stuff.

I bet if someone bought you a Ferrari you'd complain it was the wrong colour.

I had no problem with Endgame's colour, if that's what you're implying

 

[Spider-Fan]

I had no problem with Endgame's colour, if that's what you're implying

Not sure if reply here is serious, but in the event you don't understand their point, he is saying if someone did something amazing/nice for you, you'd find a reason to complain.

 

[Ricardo Brown]

The Spider verse and PS4 had great Versions of the character and heck the spectacular series also

Ugh. I'm sorry, I know this kinda offtopic but how on earth PS4 MJ was a great version of the character? She's literally Mary Jane in name only. Excluding her name, she's just as "close" to a character as Zendaya is. She doesn't look like MJ, she doesn't act like MJ, she doesn't talk like MJ, and even her voice! Seriously, has anyone ever imagined MJ to sound like this?
And I'm not even counting all the idiotic things that she did in that game.
Spectacular series gave us the perfect Mary Jane imo. That's how she's needs to be done. ITSV was also really good but her role was more like a cameo, unfortunately.



Also, about that Mysterio thing....
I think Beck being a liar is SO OBVIOUS that Marvel won't do that. Maybe he's actually a good guy this time and something bad happens to him (or his wife/family) so he turns evil by the end of the movie.

 

[ragingdemon155]

Ugh. I'm sorry, I know this kinda offtopic but how on earth PS4 MJ was a great version of the character? She's literally Mary Jane in name only. Excluding her name, she's just as "close" to a character as Zendaya is. She doesn't look like MJ, she doesn't act like MJ, she doesn't talk like MJ, and even her voice! Seriously, has anyone ever imagined MJ to sound like this?
And I'm not even counting all the idiotic things that she did in that game.
Spectacular series gave us the perfect Mary Jane imo. That's how she's needs to be done. ITSV was also really good but her role was more like a cameo, unfortunately.



Also, about that Mysterio thing....
I think Beck being a liar is SO OBVIOUS that Marvel won't do that. Maybe he's actually a good guy this time and something bad happens to him (or his wife/family) so he turns evil by the end of the movie.

I probably just worded it wrong. I meant to say that the version of the character is one that I liked in the PS4 version. She wasn’t the 616 version but I enjoyed that version of the character. The peter / mj relationship in that game was great. I also enjoyed that she felt independent and tried to help and be useful. So I didn’t mean to imply that she’s the 616 version. I am saying that greatly enjoyed and even loved the PS4 interpretation of the character. The chemistry between Peter and MJ in that game was some of the best the couple has ever had in any media. It’s all opinion though .
Different strokes..

 

[Ricardo Brown]

I probably just worded it wrong. I meant to say that the version of the character is one that I liked in the PS4 version. She wasn’t the 616 version but I enjoyed that version of the character. The peter / mj relationship in that game was great. I also enjoyed that she felt independent and tried to help and be useful. So I didn’t mean to imply that she’s the 616 version. I am saying that greatly enjoyed and even loved the PS4 interpretation of the character. The chemistry between Peter and MJ in that game was some of the best the couple has ever had in any media. It’s all opinion though .
Different strokes..

Oh, ok then, I guess I just misunderstood you lol. My bad.
Well, I strongly disagree with this, but yeah, to each his own. I'm with you on Spectacular series and Spider-Verse though.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Do you guys think they'll still be setting up a Sinister Six movie even though Vulture isn't gonna be in FFH?

If the Vulture were Spider-Man's/Sinister Six Loki or Winter Soldier that might be a point. But then you would be paying Michael Keaton for cameos as you build the other 5 characters up.

You would still be jumping the gun in trying to build a Sinister Six like the Justice League was built on screen, instead of how the Avengers were with 4 of the original 6 having solo outings to introduce the characters.

 

[Spider-Fan]

If the Vulture were Spider-Man's/Sinister Six Loki or Winter Soldier that might be a point. But then you would be paying Michael Keaton for cameos as you build the other 5 characters up.

You would still be jumping the gun in trying to build a Sinister Six like the Justice League was built on screen, instead of how the Avengers were with 4 of the original 6 having solo outings to introduce the characters.

We have several built up villains though for a SS already. Vulture and Shocker are already there and Gargan was introduced, so making him Scorpion for a 3rd film about the Sinister Six works well. So we have at least 3 members there. They also referenced friends on the outside, so maybe in some type of post-credits thing, we can get a hint of who that is, and then we have our SS leader there. Plus there is always the possibility of Mysterio joining and being a 4th member we've already met, but we have to wait and see what happens with him in this film first. But point being, the Sinister Six in a 3rd film is not really rushing it at this point.

 

[ragingdemon155]

Oh, ok then, I guess I just misunderstood you lol. My bad.
Well, I strongly disagree with this, but yeah, to each his own. I'm with you on Spectacular series and Spider-Verse though.

I will say that I’m not sure if I ever want a true 616 interpretation on the big screen. Like I’ve mentioned I’m a huge die hard fan of the character. However i feel it’s such an “easy” character to mess up .

Most fans and the general public perceive her as a gorgeous dumb ditzy supermodel chick. Her personal demons, struggle, her family history, issues with self worth and so on are subjects that I don’t think anyone other then fans that are well educated on the material know about. For the reason it would seem like the easy way to just portray her as the that “cliche” hot female lead that contributes nothing but “screams of danger” and I don’t want to see that done to her. I just don’t have faith in the team that they would make it work.

So for that reason, I just prefer adding different spins to the character ( like the PS4 version, ultimate Spider-Man version, MCU version). Just seems safer that way.

 

[Abudefduf]

You know, if Spider-verse didn't exist I would think Marvel and Sony are laying the groundwork to introduce alternate versions of Spider-Man in the MCU. I would love a live action Spider-Gwen

Not sure if reply here is serious, but in the event you don't understand their point, he is saying if someone did something amazing/nice for you, you'd find a reason to complain.

I see. He was telling me I should be grateful to Marvel for buying me a Ferrari. But that never happened?

Seriously, can we just drop this completely OT discussion? Let people dislike things.

 

[MaceB]

Lol, if this 616 thing is true the guys curating the Marvel Wiki are not going to be happy about it.

No, I just want to know if Hulk did the most logical thing and brought everyone back when he used the Infinity Gauntlet. Personally I think he did, but I want to hear it from Marvel.

I've seen quite a few people wonder about this so I know I'm not the only one.

In other words... exactly what I just said, reworded.

 

[Spider-Fan]

This is an interesting read:

Spider-Man: Far From Home’s Chameleon Is Not What You Think

Spoiler

Numan Acar's Chameleon in Spider-Man: Far From Home may not be what Marvel Comics readers are expecting. In just his second solo film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Spider-Man's rogues gallery is quickly being incorporated into the world. Spider-Man: Homecoming used Vulture, The Tinkerer, Shocker, and Prowler, and Spider-Man: Far From Home is set to feature Mysterio, variations of Hydro-Man, Molten Man, and Sandman as The Elementals, and even the master of disguise Chameleon.

The inclusion of the latter was first tipped off when Aladdin actor Numan Acar joined Spider-Man: Far From Home as "Dimitri." This immediately tipped off Marvel fans that he could be playing Dmitri Smerdyakov, better known as classic Spider-Man foe Chameleon. This role was never confirmed to be who Acar was playing, but we learned some surprising details about him.

Screen Rant visited the set of Spider-Man: Far From Home and spoke to director Jon Watts about what he was doing with the sequel, and one of the questions pertained to Acar's role in the film. Watts wanted to keep some of the details about Acar's role under wraps, but he did reveal his surprising boss, while leaving the door open to whether or not Dmitri is Chameleon.

Well, Dmitri in the film works for Nick Fury and I think anyone who works for Nick Fury, they certainly have a mysterious past. We're not specifically saying that he's...but we're not not saying.

While Spider-Man: Far From Home may very well leave Dmitri's backstory and capabilities a mystery, him being part of Fury's team is a fun twist on expectations. This could potentially mean that Dmitri's skills come from days of being a spy or undercover agent, and that would be how he and Fury crossed paths. It could be revealed that Chameleon is a code name or nickname for Dmitri because his ability to become someone else is so impressive.

Of course, the hesitancy from Watts to reveal more details about Dmitri's role in Spider-Man: Far From Home could be because there's more to him than the film initially lets on. The sequel is framing Mysterio as a hero after all, and if it does reveal that this isn't totally the case, we could also learn that Dmitri has ulterior motives, paving the way for him to return as a villain down the line. He's the brother of Kraven the Hunter too, so he could potentially be the one to send Kraven on his last hunt in another sequel. But, we'll need to see exactly what his role in Spider-Man: Far From Home is first.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

This is an interesting read:

Spider-Man: Far From Home’s Chameleon Is Not What You Think

Cool, Aladdin is involved.

Sometimes when I listen to 90s cartoon voice actor Christopher Daniel Barnes, I think I hear a voice similar to that of Aladdin of the same decade.

Part of the quote in the spoiler is covered and is unreadable.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Cool, Aladdin is involved.

Sometimes when I listen to 90s cartoon voice actor Christopher Daniel Barnes, I think I hear a voice similar to that of Aladdin of the same decade.

Part of the quote in the spoiler is covered and is unreadable.

If you click on the box once the spoiler tag is opened, it expands.

 

[Zorro]

Mysterio is likely lying about where he's from and his intentions or motivation but I doubt they'd bs about the multiverse after being teased since Doctor Strange and what happened in Endgame plus the next saga focusing on cosmic stuff just to add to Mysterio being a master con artist and then later on be like oh yeah the multiverse really is true

 

[Spider-Aziz]

If you click on the box once the spoiler tag is opened, it expands.

Doesn't show the usual 'Click to Expand' message, and it refuses to expand even after I refreshed the page.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Doesn't show the usual 'Click to Expand' message, and it refuses to expand even after I refreshed the page.

That's odd. Shows up for me?

 

[Lilbaz]

You know, if Spider-verse didn't exist I would think Marvel and Sony are laying the groundwork to introduce alternate versions of Spider-Man in the MCU. I would love a live action Spider-Gwen

I see. He was telling me I should be grateful to Marvel for buying me a Ferrari. But that never happened?

Seriously, can we just drop this completely OT discussion? Let people dislike things.

Not really. Was just pointing out that maybe people might appreciate that tony sacrificed his life for them and that they got the loved ones they lost back. Maybe not all and it was a hard 5 years but the world is a far sight better than what it was.
Also if thanos had won the last battle he would have destroyed the universe.

Maybe give the guy a break for not wanting to sacrifice his daughter.

 

[Abudefduf]

Was just pointing out that maybe people might appreciate that tony sacrificed his life for them and that they got the loved ones they lost back. Maybe not all and it was a hard 5 years but the world is a far sight better than what it was.

Then again, maybe they did bring everyone back and the movie just didn't show it. Hulk did try to resurrect Natasha, after all. Why wouldn't he think of the people who died because of the effects of the Snap? Even I did and I'm an idiot.

I just need to hear from Marvel themselves that that's indeed how it went. That would make Endgame a lot better for me. I'll never love it, but I'll probably hate it less.

Maybe give the guy a break for not wanting to sacrifice his daughter.

And also all the children who were born after the Snap. Someone on another site pointed out this to me yesterday. Yeah, blaming Tony was dumb and I take that back.

 

[GuestStar2004]

SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Will Supposedly Contain A Very Controversial Scene

"There's a scene in this film where audiences will feel like they've been punched in the face. Even filming it, I remember walking out and then watching it again on the monitors and asking Jon, 'Are you sure that's okay?' And he's like, 'No, it's not. People are going to hate this scene.'

But it really, phew, God, it's pretty crazy and it's very similar in the way that it's very tense and it whips the rug from underneath your feet. It's pretty awesome."

Spider-Man: Far From Home Contains an Emotional Punch in the Face