Far From Home Spider-Man: Far From Home General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[MahvelBaby!]

I'm pretty sure they can use any character that was created for those movies they just can't use characters that were created in the mcu nor can they allude to things relating to the MCU that involves their characters like the villains stark connections for example.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

The problem is that Sony wants a new Spider-man movie every 2-3 years and Marvel doesn’t work that way when they have so many properties now. They know doing more than 3 movies a year will oversaturate the brand. So they have to balance new properties with sequels.

Look how successful Black Panther was. Any other studio would have forced out a sequel by next year whether or not it was ready. Marvel doesn’t have to do that.

Rushing a movie when the creative talent isn’t ready is how you get Spider-man 3, which is what Sony is going to do.

Marvel Studios learned that lesson early on with Iron Man 2

That space I think is also part of the reason the movies are successful by the time Thor 4 comes around you have been allowed to miss the character for a while.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Midnight edge was speculating on those issues. That information was not to be taken as fact.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I'm indifferent to all this. I could care less at this point. I don't like the MCU version of the character, the direction that they've taken. And there's a high probability that Sony is gonna make a garbage movie, again.

This was inevitable though. Egos, stupidity, corporate morons...it was just a matter of time before this would happen. Oh well.

 

[Zarex]

I don't see how it would be in Sony's best interest at all if it means sharing some of the box office.

It comes down to whether Sony would would profit more with a) 75% of a MCU produced Spidey Sequel or b) 95% (less Disney's 5% cut) of a Sony sequel without any MCU affiliation. If I was making the decision I would go with option "a"

Midnight edge was speculating on those issues. That information was not to be taken as fact.

They may be correct on MJ, an original character created for the 'Home" series, being a locked character. But speculating that Sony can't use hot Aunt May, pre-retirement Vulture, Hispanic Flash and Asian Ned Leeds is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Schlosser85]

I doubt Holland gets surrounded with an entirely new supporting cast.

 

[Schlosser85]

I doubt Holland even knows what's happening yet.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Sony's last three Spidey movies have been notoriously overbudget, which is part of the reason why they have a hard time getting their money back. I have no doubt they're going to break the bank again trying to impress moviegoers with their take on Holland's Spidey.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

Sony's last three Spidey movies have been notoriously overbudget, which is part of the reason why they have a hard time getting their money back. I have no doubt they're going to break the bank again trying to impress moviegoers with their take on Holland's Spidey.

spending more money upfront when you don't know if the audience will return, it's a bold stategy cotton, let's see if it pays off

 

[Lencho01]

 

[shinlyle]

spending more money upfront when you don't know if the audience will return, it's a bold stategy cotton, let's see if it pays off

Respect the Dodgeball quote.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

From what it sounds like, a 3rd movie with Holland under Sony's control would be miles different considering Holland is the only one coming back(heard it was an option for him). His supporting cast not being there would make it a complete mess.

Even if Holland signs on for a third movie. There's no guarantee he comes back after that, putting Sony in yet another position of having to reboot a character for a 4th time(unless they just recast the role for the same universe)

I think Sony is in a worst situation then they think.

 

[Schlosser85]

We don't know that Holland is the only one coming back.

 

[Spider-Fan]

From what it sounds like, a 3rd movie with Holland under Sony's control would be miles different considering Holland is the only one coming back(heard it was an option for him). His supporting cast not being there would make it a complete mess.

Even if Holland signs on for a third movie. There's no guarantee he comes back after that, putting Sony in yet another position of having to reboot a character for a 4th time(unless they just recast the role for the same universe)

I think Sony is in a worst situation then they think.

Why are we operating under the assumption that they can't use the Supporting Cast? I get guys like Happy not being able to come back, but why would that affect anybody else that's a Spider-Man character? Why wouldn't say Ned fall under the same restriction Tom Holland does? No, you do bring up a decent point about Tom Holland maybe being gone after a third and maybe another movie after that, but I do think Sony is going to attempt to make him sign a longer-term deal. If he does then they're in a much better position

 

[shinlyle]

Honestly, I was thinking about going to see Far From Home again this weekend. I mean, they added scenes, it's Spider-Man, and I only saw it once in the theaters...but this has truly soured me to it. It's just bittersweet knowing that last scene is Spidey's farewell to the MCU. Just...thinking of it like that, it still stings.

Now, if they do a part 3 in the same universe without mentioning the rest of the MCU, then they could do a "Spider-Man is on his own. No back up, and no way out" type movie, where Peter is on the run with his outted secret ID...and then have him look for a way to try and un-ring that bell. Then, Sony gets off of their collective butts and works it out with Disney to fix the mess they made.

Honestly, the box office will determine the future of this franchise. I'd say it would severely impact the storytelling, but when has Sony ever let that get in the way of making movies?

 

[Schlosser85]

I feel the same way about watching FFH again.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm still going to see it this weekend. Love the movie and I will continue to love the movie regardless of what the future holds. Granted, if in the next movie they just outright ignore the post-credits scene, that will irk me severely. But I don't know what Sony can or cannot do without the Marvel Studios assistance. So I'll just wait and see what the next film looks like before getting truly upset about anything. But either way, I will continue to watch this movie for years to come

 

[shinlyle]

I'm still going to see it this weekend. Love the movie and I will continue to love the movie regardless of what the future holds. Granted, if in the next movie they just outright ignore the post-credits scene, that will irk me severely. But I don't know what Sony can or cannot do without the Marvel Studios assistance. So I'll just wait and see what the next film looks like before getting truly upset about anything. But either way, I will continue to watch this movie for years to come

It'll honestly boil down to 1) money, 2) if the family wants to see it again, and 3) time. As with most things. I want to believe the best for Spidey in Sony's hands, but it's like trusting Ben Affleck. You may get "The Town" or "Good Will Hunting" Ben Affleck. Then again, you may get "Gigli" and "Reindeer Games" Ben Affleck. You don't know until you're there.

 

[Spider-Fan]

It'll honestly boil down to 1) money, 2) if the family wants to see it again, and 3) time. As with most things. I want to believe the best for Spidey in Sony's hands, but it's like trusting Ben Affleck. You may get "The Town" or "Good Will Hunting" Ben Affleck. Then again, you may get "Gigli" and "Reindeer Games" Ben Affleck. You don't know until you're there.

In regards to the future of the franchise, I completely agree. I don't entirely trust Sony to give us wonderful movies either. But that doesn't diminish the quality of the existing MCU Spider-Man movies. Even if the next one with Tom Holland and no Marvel Studios ends up being subpar. Now, the post-credits scene can be bittersweet if they never do anything with that, but that's really about it for me.

That said, I really do hope no matter what the future holds for Spiderman that we still get good movies. Whether he is in the MCU or not. I do not wish Spiderman failure simply because he can't hang out with the Avengers. But these movies are going to live and die by the merits of their quality.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I'm no writer but I just don't see how you take everything that this version of Spider-Man has been through and then move it forward without including the past. I just don't understand how you do that and make sense of things and make it something that people are gonna want to see.

So many fans and general moviegoers, imo, are very attached to this version and enjoy it. Now you rob Spider-Man of just about everything... the only thing imo that is gonna keep people coming back would be Tom Holland. And he could leave after the next movie. Then what? And I wouldn't put it past people, especially fans of the MCU to not see Sony's movie on principal.

I know Sony is dumb but they can't be THAT dumb. They have to see how problematic this will be. Right?

 

[Web-Head]

From what it sounds like, a 3rd movie with Holland under Sony's control would be miles different considering Holland is the only one coming back(heard it was an option for him). His supporting cast not being there would make it a complete mess.

Even if Holland signs on for a third movie. There's no guarantee he comes back after that, putting Sony in yet another position of having to reboot a character for a 4th time(unless they just recast the role for the same universe)

I think Sony is in a worst situation then they think.

His supporting cast not being there would be a very good thing

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm no writer but I just don't see how you take everything that this version of Spider-Man has been through and then move it forward without including the past. I just don't understand how you do that and make sense of things and make it something that people are gonna want to see.

So many fans and general moviegoers, imo, are very attached to this version and enjoy it. Now you rob Spider-Man of just about everything... the only thing imo that is gonna keep people coming back would be Tom Holland. And he could leave after the next movie. Then what? And I wouldn't put it past people, especially fans of the MCU to not see Sony's movie on principal.

I know Sony is dumb but they can't be THAT dumb. They have to see how problematic this will be. Right?

Again it really comes down to what Sony can and cannot do legally in regards to the sequel. If they can use all the plot elements except for MCU specific things like mentions of Tony Stark or happy Hogan or whatever then they can easily get around that no problem. But if it is going to be kind of like a reboot just with Tom Holland in the role, then yes that's going to be a bit of a challenge

 

[TheVileOne]

Midnight edge was speculating on those issues. That information was not to be taken as fact.

Ever since Last Jedi and Captain Marvel, Midnight's Edge has been getting far more biased and speculative with its coverage. Basically lowkey predicting Captain Marvel would bomb or under-perform.

 

[Schlosser85]

His supporting cast not being there would be a very good thing

Not if this is actually supposed to be, ya know, a third movie in any kind of continuity.

 

[fan4stic]

Not if this is actually supposed to be, ya know, a third movie in any kind of continuity.

it could work I think. Have Peter, due to his situation, lose his scholarship to the science school. Michelle and him are separated to keep her safe and she's left to live with other family. Ned sticks around. Betty's dyed her hair brunette. Flash stays at the science school and we don't really see him.