Far From Home Spider-Man: Far From Home General Discussion and Speculation - Part 2

[Spider-Aziz]

Eh, didn't he essentially do that in SM2 when he gave up the superhero life so he can focus on his romance with MJ? Granted in that movie it wasn't for a vocation with her per se but it was more or less the same thing.

His powers stopped working in that movie.

Actually, in this case, I think Peter isn't being neglectful of his responsibilities rather he's only taking a temporary break from it for awhile to clear his head a bit. Besides with all he experienced in the last two Avengers films - especially Endgame where...

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He was dead for five years and his mentor Tony Stark died.

then can you blame him? It's only natural he wants a little respite from the superhero gig especially when something awful like that happens. He just wants to relax and take a breather after the intense life-altering experience he had.

I got this impression when the trailer was released and before the release of Endgame.

 

[Detective Conan]

His powers stopped working in that movie..

But why did they did stop working in the first place? Because he internally was rejecting his spider-powers subconsciously. His volition to be Spider-Man wasn't there anymore which impeded his ability to access his powers.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[Web-Head]

Figures.

 

[ragingdemon155]

I’m hoping for some consistent action sequences in this new trailer. I felt like the cgi and fights in Homecoming were severely lacking. Might have been the worst action scenes in any solo Spider-Man movie to date. Really held the movie back from being higher on my list of Spider-Man movies.

 

[Marvel united]

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Of a character who just found out he died for five years?

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So was Ned and all of his classmates and as far as we know, they're not going to all have PTSD

Eh, didn't he essentially do that in SM2 when he gave up the superhero life so he can focus on his romance with MJ? Granted in that movie it wasn't for a vocation with her per se but it was more or less the same thing. Actually, in this case, I think Peter isn't being neglectful of his responsibilities rather he's only taking a temporary break from it for awhile to clear his head a bit. Besides with all he experienced in the last two Avengers films - especially Endgame where...

Spoiler

He was dead for five years and his mentor Tony Stark died.

then can you blame him? It's only natural he wants a little respite from the superhero gig especially when something awful like that happens. He just wants to relax and take a breather after the intense life-altering experience he had.

No, it's not the same. Peter in SM2 gave up being Spider-Man because he lost his power. And the reason why this happened was because the mantle of Spider-Man was tearing his life apart. It was an unbearable burden that he had to learn to bear. The MCU Spider-Man up to this point has not had to deal with issues of that magnitude yet so him giving up is unearned and it make it seem like being Spider-Man to Peter is inconsequential and meaningless to him. I don't like it.

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Yes, Stark died. But that's not reason to give up being a hero? It's not like Ben dying or Gwen dying or Harry or Captain stacy or Ned dying where Peter was indirectly responsible. Peter had nothing to do with Stark's death so him going in temporary retirement because a father figure died is not characteristic of Peter Parker. At least not the one I grew up with

Anyway, those are my 2 cents. I really hope FFH addresses this in a mature way and it's not just played off as a teenager getting bored with being a hero

 

[terry78]

If anything he should want to do it more.

 

[Spider-Fan]

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People handle grief differently, but let's look at this a different way for the sake of argument: Tony is Peter's idol. He's a hero no doubt. But being a hero cost him his life. Maybe Peter is looking at this saying the hero game is maybe more dangerous than he realized. Yeah, he likely knew conceptually that being a superhero may kill him, but it's one thing to know that and another to SEE it. Maybe Peter doesn't want May to lose him again like she may have for the past 5 years. Maybe Stark's death is distracting him to the point where putting on the suit is not best for anyone, so he has to get his mind right before he can do it again. There are plenty of mature ways to handle this plot line. I'll give Feige the benefit of the doubt here

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Just as Tony Stark came back from war and we were seeing the aftermath in Iron Man 3 and forward Peter Parker is a child soldier coming back not from stopping a neighborhood criminal but from an intergalactic war.

 

[SpeterMan3]

It's not like he's "Spider-Man no more"ing it. Just taking a short break. The neighborhood survived before him. It's not gonna explode just because he's going to Europe for a little bit.

 

[Detective Conan]

No, it's not the same. Peter in SM2 gave up being Spider-Man because he lost his power. And the reason why this happened was because the mantle of Spider-Man was tearing his life apart. It was an unbearable burden that he had to learn to bear. The MCU Spider-Man up to this point has not had to deal with issues of that magnitude yet so him giving up is unearned and it make it seem like being Spider-Man to Peter is inconsequential and meaningless to him. I don't like it.

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Yes, Stark died. But that's not reason to give up being a hero? It's not like Ben dying or Gwen dying or Harry or Captain stacy or Ned dying where Peter was indirectly responsible. Peter had nothing to do with Stark's death so him going in temporary retirement because a father figure died is not characteristic of Peter Parker. At least not the one I grew up with

But Peter in SM2 lost those powers because he actively didn't want to be Spider-Man anymore. He was subconsciously rejecting those powers due to the emotional duress it was causing his personal life. The volition just wasn't there anymore largely because he wanted to have a life with MJ. He was rejecting his responsibilities for his own self-interest. Compare that with MCU Peter who..

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not only once again lost a mentor figure in Tony Stark but he himself literally died and was dead for five years. That's arguably way worse than what Riami Spider-Man went through in the first two movies. Think of it in this way: Riami Spider-Man was willing to quit being Spider-Man forever because he wanted to be with a girl he liked while MCU Peter justifiably wants a break for a while to take his mind off the horrible events of the two Avengers movies.

 

[ragingdemon155]

I’m kind of surprised that so many people have a problem with him going on vacation. It doesn’t seem like that big of a deal to me. He’s been through a lot and is anxious to just be “normal” for a bit. It isn’t the first time peter has said “no” to being the character and it isn’t permanent. It’s a break. That’s all. Trying to humanize Peter in ways like this works.

 

[Jedi Arrow]

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So was Ned and all of his classmates and as far as we know, they're not going to all have PTSD

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None of them are superheroes who have to deal with the stress of potentially dealing with something like that again. Also, probably none of them lost a loved one that can't come back like Peter did. Stark wasn't just a mentor and friend, he was Peter's hero. Seeing your greatest hero die has to put a damper on trying to be a hero yourself.

And apologies to all for not tagging my previous post as a spoiler. It was late at night and I wasn't thinking.

 

[Blue42]

 

[Nicko-Ray]

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People handle grief differently, but let's look at this a different way for the sake of argument: Tony is Peter's idol. He's a hero no doubt. But being a hero cost him his life. Maybe Peter is looking at this saying the hero game is maybe more dangerous than he realized. Yeah, he likely knew conceptually that being a superhero may kill him, but it's one thing to know that and another to SEE it. Maybe Peter doesn't want May to lose him again like she may have for the past 5 years. Maybe Stark's death is distracting him to the point where putting on the suit is not best for anyone, so he has to get his mind right before he can do it again. There are plenty of mature ways to handle this plot line. I'll give Feige the benefit of the doubt here

Exactly this. And what's wrong with this? Not saying this is exactly what they're gonna go for but..

 

[2002SpideyFan]

This movie looks like it will be even worse than Homecoming. None of the trailers gave me any idea of what are the emotional stakes of this movie. And from the recent John Watts comments about what Peter's arc will be, I think that guy has no idea of who is Spider-Man. He pretty much said that this movie is about Peter continue being a teenager and not maturing. I'm like, "Wow! This guy understands Spider-Man about as well as Shane Black understands how autism works."

 

[2002SpideyFan]

It’s not debatable. Sony ran the franchise into the ground so hard that marvel had to reinvent the wheel and make spidey marketable again. Gotg and cap were making more than marvel’s flagship character. So of course they made him like a mini iron man to stray away from what Sony did. Sony almost destroyed Spider-Man.

When this deal was being made you had people saying they didn’t want peter anymore cause he’s boring they’d rather have frickin miles. Miles!

Sony did that.

Comic con 2013. Loki got a huge applause at hall h
Spider-Man came out in full costume and nobody cared.

The character was being ruined. How anyone can think asm and Sony are great for Spider-Man is beyond me

Nah, I'm pretty sure that all of the MCU tie-ins in Homecoming, as well as Spidey's reliance on IM, are from Feige, not Sony. That's been their plan from the get-go. And are you talking about ASM cast being at the Con and not having any applause? I've been to one of the ASM2 Con panels, and people were cheering for everyone. On the opposite side of the spectrum, bunch of A-holes actually booed when someone mentioned Tobey Maguire during that panel. Now that one really pissed me off. I wanted to walk out from that crowd because of that.

 

[samsnee]

Guess this means new trailer next week

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

Spoiler wise the trailers won't touch on the emotiinal situation until the Endgame cycle is done. It makes it hard to sell Spider-Man but then again it is easy to sell MCU 23.

 

[spiderman2]

I’m hoping for some consistent action sequences in this new trailer. I felt like the cgi and fights in Homecoming were severely lacking. Might have been the worst action scenes in any solo Spider-Man movie to date. Really held the movie back from being higher on my list of Spider-Man movies.

I agree about the fights in homecoming its really my only problem with the movie. Home coming is my second favorite spiderman movie. So I still love it but action was lacking for sure not bad but just nothing that stood out. Its the only spiderman movie where I fell like there has not been a fight that has like stood out in the movie. Spiderman 1 the last fight with goblin stood out because of like how violent it was. Spiderman 2 the train fight heck still the best fight I have seen in any CBM ever. The bank fight two. Spiderman 3 the first Harry/Peter right because of it being in the air. Amazing spiderman 1 the school fight because of how spider like he moves and how good the CGI is. Amazing spiderman 2 the last electro fight because it just looked awesome and the music was great to. The last fight with Goblin was great because it was so intense even though it was short.

 

[HunBoy]

 

[Spider-Aziz]

When I first saw the trailer it was before the release of Endgame, Peter looked at the suit and left it out of his suitcase, I surmised that coming back from the dead and after all that happened in Infinity War must have its toll to make him want to take a break.

And then most of the members here probably watched Endgame, and saw how things got darker in that movie. So yeah, as others have said; this Peter has his right to take some time off as he wants to for the while.

 

[Jesse Jimenez]

This movie looks like it will be even worse than Homecoming. None of the trailers gave me any idea of what are the emotional stakes of this movie. And from the recent John Watts comments about what Peter's arc will be, I think that guy has no idea of who is Spider-Man. He pretty much said that this movie is about Peter continue being a teenager and not maturing. I'm like, "Wow! This guy understands Spider-Man about as well as Shane Black understands how autism works."

He said it's about the world telling Peter to mature and Peter not wanting to. He's going to mature. This is still young Spider-Man. He's coming onto his own. They even said this movie will be a transition from kid to man for Peter

 

[Lilbaz]

Because it completely went against his comic counter part who never ever had this issue. It was clearly established that the Spider bite gave him perfect equilibrium and also eliminated any fear of heights or being uncomfortable In those situations.

In an issue of ASM ( exact number escapes me, hoping someone can chime in) he goes to a scientist to “cure” him of his powers. After the process he goes to a rooftop thinking he can swing home and leans over the edge and suddenly feels dizzy and the fear of being so high finally sets in because his powers are gone and vertigo and so on sets in.

The fear of heights scene was simply thrown In to humanize the character more but he’s already portrayed so weak as a character in Homecoming that it just served to push him further down that hole. It also showed that the directors maybe didn’t do their research with the character.

Nope just shows the the comics and mcu are two different things.

 

[Lilbaz]

Spoiler: Endgame Related

Awfully convenient that all the people relevant to Peter Parker's school life got dusted away. At the very least some of them should be older. That honestly would've been a good way to age Betty Brant up to her comic accurate age.

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not really. That's like saying it's convenient that peter got bit by a spider. If someone else got bit then the story would be about them.
We don't see all of peters school life. Some good friends of his probably weren't dusted. Now have moved on. But the film probably wont show them because they are no longer relevant to peters story.