Star Wars - Part 7

[henzINNIT]

BF3 could be an epic game. I used to play the first with the mrs all the time.

 

[OptimusPrime114]

I read this interesting article in Star Wars Insider, entitled "Family Traditions".

The article states that the old Jedi Order is partly to blame for Anakin's downfall. The author says that if the Jedi never enforced the "no-attachments" rule, Anakin would've never fallen to the Dark Side.

Do you agree?

 

[Kurosawa]

I read this interesting article in Star Wars Insider, entitled "Family Traditions".

The article states that the old Jedi Order is partly to blame for Anakin's downfall. The author says that if the Jedi never enforced the "no-attachments" rule, Anakin would've never fallen to the Dark Side.

Do you agree?

It's certainly part of the problem, as it is the the real world for religious orders. But considering that it had happened so rarely before Anakin, my feeling is no. Anakin was a perfect storm of the right Jedi in the wrong place, with a well-meaning enabler in Padme, a great but flawed Master in Obi-Wan, and the perfect manipulator in Sidious. Take any of those factors out of the equation, and he wouldn't have fallen.

 

[Bim]

gohei_: have fun catching up! i dont think you'll be sorry

I read this interesting article in Star Wars Insider, entitled "Family Traditions".

The article states that the old Jedi Order is partly to blame for Anakin's downfall. The author says that if the Jedi never enforced the "no-attachments" rule, Anakin would've never fallen to the Dark Side.

Do you agree?

Nope, i dont agree with this. While the Jedi Order was far from perfect and the Jedi did need to make adjustments, it all boils down to this for me: Anakin made a choice. He chose to turn; he didnt have to. Turning to the darkside wasnt his only choice. He had other options to consider. Anakin's issues went far beyond the non-attachments rule in my opinion. And while he loved Padme, he chose to turn because he wanted a little thing called power. It started out as wanting the power to save her, but ended up proposing to defeat Palps and overthrow him; that wasnt about Padme, that was about him.

Happy new year, SW fans! I hope this year brings you all kinds of wonderful things for you and your loved ones

 

[OptimusPrime114]

Happy new year, SW fans! I hope this year brings you all kinds of wonderful things for you and your loved ones

Yeah...

1. TPM in 3-D
2. New Lego sets.
3. Upcoming X-Wing novel.
4. New updated Essential Guide to Characters.
5. Kinect Star Wars

 

[Doctor Jones]

TPM in 3D time! Excellent!

 

[craigdbfan]

Anybody else watching the marathon on Spike?

 

[The_Raganork]

I read this interesting article in Star Wars Insider, entitled "Family Traditions".

The article states that the old Jedi Order is partly to blame for Anakin's downfall. The author says that if the Jedi never enforced the "no-attachments" rule, Anakin would've never fallen to the Dark Side.

Do you agree?

my final paper in my last Philosophy class was on this very issue!

I did a 15 page paper on how the Jedi-order is to blame for their own destruction.

"Balance" in the Force is the goal and the Jedi over powered the Sith for two thousand years.

The Jedi are a big issue in what happened in ROTS

 

[OptimusPrime114]

I just noticed something...

On Star Wars: The Clone Wars, the relationship between Anakina nd Ahsoka is probably similar to that of Batman and Robin. What do you think?

 

[Erzengel]

my final paper in my last Philosophy class was on this very issue!

I did a 15 page paper on how the Jedi-order is to blame for their own destruction.

"Balance" in the Force is the goal and the Jedi over powered the Sith for two thousand years.

The Jedi are a big issue in what happened in ROTS

What was your grade on your paper?

And honestly, I don't think I could ever get away with a topic like that at my college.

 

[The_Raganork]

What was your grade on your paper?

And honestly, I don't think I could ever get away with a topic like that at my college.

A-

Kinda flubbed up one of my Philosophical ideas.

Yeah some colleges are sticklers the subject matter may have been unconventional but the philosophical ideals are the same.

I mean the Jedi are no different than a failed Leviathan and Anakin the everyday man.

The Jedi push a rigid form of Kantianism on Anakin and expect him to solve all their problems but fail to see the big picture.

It was a fun paper to write.

 

[Erzengel]

Did they really expect Anakin to solve their problem. I know there was discussions by Yoda and Mace about Anakin 's role as the Chosen one but it never felt like they were banking on him to do so.

 

[The_Raganork]

That was their end game. Anakin was the chosen one, they groomed him that way and kept their eyes trained on him.

They ultimately lost sight of what was important. They treated him as a means to an end and ignored something that was extremely important to him

 

[danoyse]

I read this interesting article in Star Wars Insider, entitled "Family Traditions".

The article states that the old Jedi Order is partly to blame for Anakin's downfall. The author says that if the Jedi never enforced the "no-attachments" rule, Anakin would've never fallen to the Dark Side.

Do you agree?

I think that rule made the Jedi at least partially responsible for their own downfall. They felt that Anakin's compassion for his mother left him too emotionally compromised to be a proper Jedi. But in the end, it was Anakin's compassion for his son that saved the universe.

Had they embraced the challenges of bringing Anakin into the Order at his age, had they even gotten his mother and put her somewhere safe so he didn't spend ten years worried about her, had they dealt with him falling for Padme, instead of treating him like some sort of inferior disease, Anakin might not have grown into the angry young man he did. And it wouldn't have played right into Palpatine's advantage the way it did.

I think the discovery of midichlorians made the Jedi Order compliant, and I think their emotional detachments made them lose their understanding of the true nature of the Force.

 

[Duke]

I've had a question gnawing at me for a time. Why has Lucasfilm always kept the issue on Yoda's species concealed or been so secretive? I researched it a bit on WookiePedia & it's rather inconclusive.

 

[OptimusPrime114]

Yes, that's a mystery!

 

[venom892]

I would totally watch a film that deals with Yoda's origins and how he got to be on the council. Then again after Luke, Yoda is my favorite character.

 

[Mandalore464]

Famed fight choreographer, fencing champion, and stuntman Bob Anderson passed away on monday. He was 89.

R.I.P

 

[Lord]

R.i.p.

 

[OptimusPrime114]

May he be one with the force.

 

[Duke]

I was reading that he also did stunt work on LOTR & many other movies, but his masterpiece was Star Wars in my opinion. R.I.P.

 

[Bim]

I've had a question gnawing at me for a time. Why has Lucasfilm always kept the issue on Yoda's species concealed or been so secretive? I researched it a bit on WookiePedia & it's rather inconclusive.

I guess they've tried keeping him and his origins a bit of a mystery. Maybe somewhere down the line they'll add a bit more detail to it; i'd love to see how Yoda became a jedi and how he ended up on the Council... but i admit, part of me likes the fact that his past is unknown.

RIP Bob

 

[OptimusPrime114]

Can anybody tell me what the Outbound Flight project is? And what is the link between this and the Thrawn saga?

 

[8wid]

Can anybody tell me what the Outbound Flight project is? And what is the link between this and the Thrawn saga?

Outbound Flight Project

And Thrawn wanted to use the fleet lost during this project to put them into service as part of a new Imperial fleet filled with cloned warriors to fight against the New Republic.

 

[Young Superman]

That was their end game. Anakin was the chosen one, they groomed him that way and kept their eyes trained on him.

They ultimately lost sight of what was important. They treated him as a means to an end and ignored something that was extremely important to him

I agree with this.