State Your Opinion on a Character!!!! (Reboot) - Part 6

[KevanG]

I love the insane ones.

The Superman/Lois Lane/Jimmy Olsen covers from the Silver Age are the greatest example of them. Every issue Superman would be killing Lois, killing Jimmy, blowing up **** for giggles or all three at the same time. Lois would be forcing Superman to marry her and/or trying to kill him. Jimmy would be getting another super power (take a drink).

I'd love to see them do a bunch of these today.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

yeah for being a big blue boy scout that dude " killed" more people on his covers than any superhero i ever seen... you think they were trying to give him a bad rep or something

and that cover you posted is still one of my time favs KG! dude tied baby girl to the bumper and ^&*(! thats just wrong!!

 

[WolfCypher]

Yeah, but those covers really did show what happens in their comics, but the context inside the issue would better explain it. It's like "oh, she did say that...but I only heard half the story, and now I know the rest of the story and that explains why she said it!" Like those issues where Superman tries to kill Lois, we find out why. I mean, does that still count?

I hate covers where the stuff on the cover doesn't happen in any way shape or form in the book at ALL. Ultimate Spider-Man is a testament to this. Its like Bendis would start a USM arc that's going to feature, lets say, Carnage, and Carnage doesn't actually show up until part 4 out of this six part arc, yet its on the covers of parts 1, 2, and 3, fighting Spider-Man...no Carnage until 4, but here it is on every single cover.

A book with Mary Jane holding an employee id for Stark's company...yet she's only in the book for three pages, and is NOT working at Stark until two issues later.

Miles (Morales, Spider-Man) is featured prominently on blah-blah book's cover, and is NO WHERE in the issue.

Those Silver Age books promised Superman throwing Lois into a whale's mouth? You damn better believe inside that issue you will see Superman throwing that chick into some whale's mouth! Its just the reasoning behind it is a fake-out. That, I appreciate.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

those Superman covers were terribly misleading wolf. While yeah to some degree what was pictured on them happened in a bizarro a skewed version like that" I killed Lois one." it was usually some bad guy who tried killing her (which she then faked with supes help) and him blaming himself and yelling! its all my fault being my main squeeze!!I am the reason she's dead! ' I KILLED HER just so they could catch the bad guy!!
my take on those covers is that Supes were so goody goody and so full of sugary goodness they had to have some sort of "dickery" for him for him to even the score and proceeded to make those covers full of it. People love the bad boy( thats why people dig bats!) and showing him that way made the boy scout more enticing!! i was a kid when i got that "bondage cover" book( hehe mostly cause of Lois like that!) but also i was like Wow! dude had enough of chicks nagging and ^&* (...only to read it and WHAT! The hell is this...!!! some dude hypnotize dude to do that and then he really didnt!!
but i agree theres worst ones, Marvel put out a bunch of those!..." and now WOLVERINE!" only for him to be in one panel which is why i got smarter and would flip through them before i bought em ...or would just cause of some sexy babe on the cover knowing thats all i got it for!! hehe

 

[WolfCypher]

Aziz, where are you? These threads miss you...

Julia Carpenter
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[KevanG]

I like the other Spider-Women but she never clicked for me.

 

[DawnWarrior]

I grew up in the 90s when Julia had more visibility than Jessica Drew, where she was featured in the WC Avengers and appearing on both seasons of the Iron Man cartoon. All the same, I remember being surprised that her costume inspired Spidey's black costume in Secret Wars, instead of the other way around.

I suppose that once Bendis decided to bring Jessica back to prominence, there just wasn't room for two Spider-Women. Oh well.

I had an idea not long ago that Julia could date Scott Lang, since they're both single parents. Then their kids (Rachel and Cassie) could go on little adventures together.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I remember her from the Iron Man cartoon. I appreciate that she exists, glad they found a role for her, I don't get the idea of replacing Jessica Drew in the first place.

 

[WolfCypher]

Everything about Julia I prefer over Jessica.

Better costume? Julia.
Better powers? Julia.
Better looking lady behind the mask? Tie.

 

[SlamAdams]

I had a random single issue of FOrce Works growing up. She was in it. She was cool. Oh and Omega Flight awhile back. Post-Civil War maybe

 

[Mike Murdock]

Everything about Julia I prefer over Jessica.

Better costume? Julia.
Better powers? Julia.
Better looking lady behind the mask? Tie.

What about more interesting backstory?

I know many people don't agree with me on this, but I always picture Jessica Drew having a British accent (a la the motion comic adaptation of Spiderwoman: Agent of SWORD), which alone makes her more interesting than someone from the Denver suburbs.

 

[KevanG]

Who doesn't love a backstory where you get radiation posioning as a child, infused with spider DNA, put into suspended animation, hand out with the High Evolutionary's guys, become a terrorist, become a private eye and hang out with Wolverine in Madripoor, become a superhero again then lose your powers, get replaced by an alien queen then become an Avenger?

I know all that about Jessica but have no clue about Julia besides she showed up in Secret Wars and has a kid.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

eh i like Jessica better and yeah while that costume makes more sense being its "Spider" woman ( what the hell does red and yellow have to do with a spider anyway) but MAN OH MAN and i am SICK OF THAT GIANT CHEST SPIDER NOW since everybody and their moms is a Spider something or other now!! plus i dont like "Force works" so this chick hasnt impressed me much

 

[DawnWarrior]

Oh yeah, I also enjoyed that Julia was from Denver, since that's where I'm from.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Who doesn't love a backstory where you get radiation posioning as a child, infused with spider DNA, put into suspended animation, hand out with the High Evolutionary's guys, become a terrorist, become a private eye and hang out with Wolverine in Madripoor, become a superhero again then lose your powers, get replaced by an alien queen then become an Avenger?

I know all that about Jessica but have no clue about Julia besides she showed up in Secret Wars and has a kid.

She's Madam Web now.
Spidey decided to Moon her.

 

[WolfCypher]

She not even Madame Web anymore, thank god, since Spiderverse ended she lost her mystical ties to it, which translates apparently to "I can't see the future anymore".

 

[Spider-Aziz]

So no more Madam Web? That crap is done with?
Did her blindness end?

 

[WolfCypher]

Yes, yes, yes she can see.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Good riddance to a concept the 90s cartoon made me hate, and Shattered Dimensions video game further cemented that hatred.

 

[WolfCypher]

Madame Webs are the worst.

"Spider-Man. I am your friend. Your ally. I have foreseen a terrible fate to befall you. But I won't tell you what it is. Bye, Felicia!"

cuts a fart and leaves...

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Yeah.
Away with ya, you annoying old fart.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Julia's my favorite Spider-Woman. It's a f***ing waste that she got turned into the new Madame Web. She was at her best alongside the West Coast Avengers.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

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[BLACKVULCAN]

i like this one

simple, no bells or whistle and BOOM straight to the point!

 

[slicer4444]

I'm with BV on this one. Simple and to the point.