Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 3

[moviedoors]

I'm down to see Bill Hader as Richie in part two, but as Bill? That's fanboy haircut casting at its worst.

 

[terry78]

Honestly grown up Richie would be doing Samberg shtick. We have to remember these are the grown up versions of these guys in 2016, not the 80s. Basically look at how 30-somethings act right now.

 

[Stark Bauer]

Was there anything on the end credits? Me and my mate didn't stay for the end.



Yeah that was brilliant.

Next time I see this in theatres I'm gonna hide in the front row and release a red balloon before the lights turn on. Tie it to the front seat. And disappear into the crowd.

 

[Matt Mortem]

Honestly grown up Richie would be doing Samberg shtick.

Yeah I guess, but Hader can cover the comedy part of grown up Richie, while also bringing some of that serious darkness that will be needed too. I saw Hader in Skeleton Twins and he was terrific at the dramatic bits.

 

[Stark Bauer]

The CG enhancements work fine. The only downside to them is that they allow less time for Bill Skarsgard's pure performance, which is next level great. It's such amazing work.

Right. The opening scene where IT conversed with Georgie made my skin crawl. There was more menace and sinister energy in that opening scene than the routine horror movie trope jump scare/build up scares. He's terrifying at all times even in broad daylight. I'm hoping the filmmakers realize what they have in Skarsgard and take full advantage and showcase his screen presence (dialogue and interaction with the cast) to the MAX. That is horror at the purely psychological level which is WAYYY more disturbing than what we are used to. Our imaginations being used against us can be the worst fear of all.

We have a horror legend in the making. If they do this and NAIL IT, possible Oscar nod IMHO.

 

[Primal Slayer]

So with the changes that they made to Mike not being the one to do the investigative work, I wonder how that will impact his role as an adult along with Ben. They should've split that between the two characters and allow them to bond and meet.

 

[samsnee]

You don't need to cast a comedic actor for adult Richie. The kid actor wasn't known for comedy either. I like this guy. He's a good character actor and been in a few things.

 

[danoyse]

So with the changes that they made to Mike not being the one to do the investigative work, I wonder how that will impact his role as an adult along with Ben. They should've split that between the two characters and allow them to bond and meet.

If you watch closely at the end...(book spoilers in here as well)

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...Stan leaves the circle first, and he's the one who doesn't return to Derry. Eddie leaves next, and he's the one who doesn't survive the next encounter with Pennywise.

The last one to leave until it's just Bev and Bill is Ben, which makes me think he's the one who winds up staying Derry. He even has a line about when Pennywise returns in 27 years, "I'll be 40 and far away from Derry", which also makes me think that he winds up being the one who stays.

And if that's all true, I wonder what the plan is for Mike. As much as I loved the movie, it felt like his character got too pushed aside from the rest.

 

[danoyse]

The CG enhancements work fine. The only downside to them is that they allow less time for Bill Skarsgard's pure performance, which is next level great. It's such amazing work.

Agreed. Honestly, I thought other CG creatures he became were scary as well. But I do hope the sequel lets him do more just as Pennywise alone. He is absolutely terrifying.

The kid who played Georgie deserves major props too. At first I thought they were just going to play him up being a cute, creepy little kid, thankfully they utilize him better than that. I never cried, but I was quite surprised how emotional his scenes were with Bill, especially in a certain scene towards the end. I got to admit I almost teared up a bit.

He broke my heart. The scene with Georgie at the stormdrain is such an iconic Stephen King moment, and the movie really doesn't let you forget how awful Georgie's loss was. And beyond the actual murder itself, that scene you're referring to...again, heartbreaking.

Also, a particularly horrific Pennywise moment was...

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...him casually munching on Georgie's arm when Bowers was beating up on Mike.

 

[danoyse]

Hahaha...someone on FB is offering to put red balloons on the mailboxes of people who are away watching the movie for $5.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Screenrant talks about the Cary fukunaga version of the film, for the most part I am happy with what we got, only thing that seemed more interesting (and perhaps we'll get it in a sequel (whenever WB/NL greenlite one)) was a more indepth look into the origins of IT.

http://screenrant.com/it-movie-2017-original-script-changes-cary-fukunaga/

 

[redhawk23]

Screenrant talks about the Cary fukunaga version of the film, for the most part I am happy with what we got, only thing that seemed more interesting (and perhaps we'll get it in a sequel (whenever WB/NL greenlite one)) was a more indepth look into the origins of IT.

http://screenrant.com/it-movie-2017-original-script-changes-cary-fukunaga/

Birth Movies Death did a similar write up a few months back.

From what I've seen a lot of the earlier draft was retained. I'm fine with what they changed as they were usually changes to make it closer to the book.

That said, I don't think they really came up with much to do with Stan. While the naked succubus lady in the earlier draft was not the best move it seems a little more potent than the Painting lady.

Also that scene with painting was oddly identical to the one in the Conjuring 2.

 

[redhawk23]

If you watch closely at the end...(book spoilers in here as well)

Spoiler

...Stan leaves the circle first, and he's the one who doesn't return to Derry. Eddie leaves next, and he's the one who doesn't survive the next encounter with Pennywise.

The last one to leave until it's just Bev and Bill is Ben, which makes me think he's the one who winds up staying Derry. He even has a line about when Pennywise returns in 27 years, "I'll be 40 and far away from Derry", which also makes me think that he winds up being the one who stays.

And if that's all true, I wonder what the plan is for Mike. As much as I loved the movie, it felt like his character got too pushed aside from the rest.

In a big way, much of his role in the book was shifted over to Ben, which is an economic choice with Ben spending so much time in the library and such but they didn't do much else with Mike.

 

[moviedoors]

We'll for sure get more Pennywise history in the sequel. The adult story in the novel is more passive than the kid timeline. It lends itself to filling in the gaps.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I thought it was weird that Muschietti basically reused the monster from Mama in this movie

 

[Matt Mortem]

I thought it was weird that Muschietti basically reused the monster from Mama in this movie

Holy **** he did. I didn't make the connection till you said it.

 

[danoyse]

Birth Movies Death did a similar write up a few months back.

From what I've seen a lot of the earlier draft was retained. I'm fine with what they changed as they were usually changes to make it closer to the book.

That said, I don't think they really came up with much to do with Stan. While the naked succubus lady in the earlier draft was not the best move it seems a little more potent than the Painting lady.

Also that scene with painting was oddly identical to the one in the Conjuring 2.

I'm just glad they didn't go with all of the name changes. That drives me insane in the Salem's Lot movie. He's not Ned, he's Floyd, dammit.

Stan seemed the most damaged from the whole experience. Almost gave some insight into his mental state when the next round starts.

 

[Matt Mortem]

I'm just glad they didn't go with all of the name changes. That drives me insane in the Salem's Lot movie. He's not Ned, he's Floyd, dammit.

Stan seemed the most damaged from the whole experience. Almost gave some insight into his mental state when the next round starts.

Yeah I loved that touch. It added an extra bit of tragedy to it.

 

[Ninjablade]

You'll have a blast.

And that I did. Holy crap was this movie really good. I wasn't scared, but I wasn't expecting to be because I'm not scared easily. I was really moved though, this was an incredibly emotional film, and I really felt for the characters. The cast was fantastic all around.

I did have issues with the editing, thought they cut away too quickly with a lot of the scares.

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I thought almost all the CGI looked terrible. I don't think it looked good until the house scene, besides the scene of Stan being attacked towards the end. Most of the CG could've easily been practical so it's dissapointing it wasn't

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Favorite Scene: Either them in the house or the big climatic finale.
Least Favorite:

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Georgie getting his arm ripped off. I know it's like that in the book, but the way it was done in the movie looked dumb as hell. The bitting looked terrible, and then for some reason I was really bothered by the way the rest of the scene was filmed. Looked really amateur. The build up to it was amazing, and it was a hard to watch scene because he's a child, but something about the ending bothered me.

I'll post a more in depth thoughts after some rest. Had to drive an hour and half to see it with a friend who goes to a different school as I.

 

[Incarnadine]

Saturday estimate from Rth is $44m. Even if It somehow had a 50% Sunday drop it would still be close to $120m and with Saturday actually having an increase over Friday (not counting Thursday previews) it seems unlikely it would drop that much now.

 

[Drizzle]

Man, this was good. It deviated from the book quite a bit but it still nailed the important aspects of the childhood parts from it. Just like the book, Richie was my favorite. Finn Wolfhard is a damn genius.

My only disappointments were [BLACKOUT]Mike getting short-changed in character development as well as Henry Bowers and his gang being pushed to the side. They should have been more of a constant threat to the Losers Club[/BLACKOUT]. Oh well. It wasn't a deal breaker for me.

The kids really brought the whole thing together, and combined with Skarsgard's utterly skin-crawling performance as Pennywise it made for a great time. I really can't wait for Part 2.

 

[Ninjablade]

Also, my theater had a red ballon attached to a storm drain outside, with a glove coming out of the grate and it scared the living **** out of my friend

 

[terry78]

I swear I'm going to the ****ing dollar store tomorrow and just buying a bunch of red balloons and let them just float around the city.


I also liked how

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Maturin was somewhat of a subtle presence via Georgie's Lego version and Ben finding a turtle in the quarry water. Basically he was the one somewhat protecting them and giving them the courage to fight It.

 

[SuperBatman]

Early Word on Saturday Numbers is 44 Million. If that's the case its at 95 Million n 2 Days and I could see it going over 120 Now.

 

[danoyse]

My family have all been texting Pennywise gifs at each other all night, so that's totally normal.

I saw it again with my folks tonight. They loved it. I still remember how excited my dad was to get the book back when it first came out, and he thought they did a great job with it. My mom has also read the book, and she loved it too. She thought the kids were great, and commented afterwards that she thought the story was so much about child abuse and that the movie really got that part right.

I'm babysitting my nephews tomorrow so my sister and brother-in-law can go. My sister is also a big fan of the book (and of NKOTB from back in the day, so she's going to get a big laugh out of that too), so she's really excited to see it.

My 9-year-old nephew is INSISTING he's old enough to watch it too, but there's no way. I had joked after I saw it on Thursday that he's not allowed to see it until he's 40. After the movie ended to tonight, my dad upped that age limit to 85.

Show was sold out, plenty of screams and jumps in the audience, and tons of applause at the end.