Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - Part 20

[BaneandDawn]

I don't think it's the final cut. There are probably missing scenes.

 

[Zur-en-Arrh]

squad shouldn't be over two hours imho. it's not an epic, it's an action/adventure movie with super heroes. quick cuts, keep it moving, and leave them wanting more.

 

[Aquafinn90]

I think if anything is the fallout of BvS its this.

They may have cut down some of the quieter/slower moments so that it can have the fun and fast pace.

Remember this movie was supposed to be a dark character study, but with twisted humor.

However, if I'm being honest if the 1hr 50 minute version is the best "theater version" then so be it.

Its about putting out the best product. Can watch the extras on Blu ray.

The flip side of that is there was such a backlash over all that was cut out of BVS


I initially was nervous that they weren't going to be able to fit everything in effectively, but now that we know how much Batman is in the movie, it seems more doable

 

[Micromind]

I think if anything is the fallout of BvS its this.

They may have cut down some of the quieter/slower moments so that it can have the fun and fast pace.

Remember this movie was supposed to be a dark character study, but with twisted humor.

However, if I'm being honest if the 1hr 50 minute version is the best "theater version" then so be it.

Its about putting out the best product. Can watch the extras on Blu ray.

That would result in low RT ratings and it would be disatrous for the movie -

1. David Ayer's main skill is to focus on his characters, without that, it just turns into a Fast and Furious wannabe movie.

2. The main problem Critics have with DC movies is that the characters are not developed enough and there are few quieter moments that put focus on the story.

 

[Micromind]

squad shouldn't be over two hours imho. it's not an epic, it's an action/adventure movie with super heroes. quick cuts, keep it moving, and leave them wanting more.

Quick Cuts, editing that jumps over different locations, different characters, scene transitions in a rapid succession is jarring, it won't make fans or the reviewers happy.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Quick Cuts, editing that jumps over different locations, different characters, scene transitions in a rapid succession is jarring, it won't make fans or the reviewers happy.

It's also not in Ayer's style.

 

[Micromind]

It's also not in Ayer's style.

I really hope so, quick cuts and quick scene transitions, focus on action scenes with little time for character development is the last thing I want from this movie.

 

[Zur-en-Arrh]

it's a summer action movie, not fury part 2. and you can bet if they're screening this so far ahead and did reshoots for the finale, that this is a warner bros/dc comics movie as much as it is a david ayer film.

 

[dhandler01]

The screened version is not the final version so dont take those times as gospel. I would guess it is closer to 2 hours 15 minutes.

That said though GOTG was only 2 hours so if done right there is plenty of time.

 

[Micromind]

Not a fan of GOTG, and it's not because it's a Marvel movie.

 

[Slade W]

I didn't think much of GOTG either.

 

[hellblazer103]

i'm actually kind of pissed that

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bats apparently won't have that much interaction with the joker.

 

[DeadStroke]

i'm actually kind of pissed that

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bats apparently won't have that much interaction with the joker.

Yea...seems like a missed opportunity.

 

[DeadStroke]

DanielR ‏@DanielRPK 1h1 hour ago
Suicide Squad's weakest links were Will Smith and Joel Kinnaman.

DanielR ‏@DanielRPK 1h1 hour ago
Both were kind of "meh" while everyone else around them were so much more interesting than them.

DanielR ‏@DanielRPK 50m50 minutes ago
@CommentEr1987 He was great. *Jai*

FWIW, I've seen other people say Will Smith was one of the best parts. I think its more Will Smith being Will Smith so it depends on if the audience is ok with it or not.

I've heard nothing about Joel outside of this. He's not the actor Hardy is, but I'm glad Hardy didn't waste time on a not so memorable character.

 

[Zur-en-Arrh]

yeah, no matter who played flagg i'm not sure the character would allow for anyone to turn it into a favorite or break-out type role. while he's the heart and soul of ostrander's squad, he's still the liason to waller, and therefore, the authority figure of the group. he's the straight man, and everyone else in the movie gets to play off him.

 

[DeadStroke]

yeah, no matter who played flagg i'm not sure the character would allow for anyone to turn it into a favorite or break-out type role. while he's the heart and soul of ostrander's squad, he's still the liason to waller, and therefore, the authority figure of the group. he's the straight man, and everyone else in the movie gets to play off him.

This is true, its why I'm glad Hardy wasn't wasted on this role, lol.

Maybe he's Deathstroke in the sequel..

 

[DeadStroke]

Messy Pandas

 

[KillerWolf]

DanielR ‏@DanielRPK 1h1 hour ago
Suicide Squad's weakest links were Will Smith and Joel Kinnaman.

DanielR ‏@DanielRPK 1h1 hour ago
Both were kind of "meh" while everyone else around them were so much more interesting than them.

DanielR ‏@DanielRPK 50m50 minutes ago
@CommentEr1987 He was great. *Jai*

FWIW, I've seen other people say Will Smith was one of the best parts. I think its more Will Smith being Will Smith so it depends on if the audience is ok with it or not.

I've heard nothing about Joel outside of this. He's not the actor Hardy is, but I'm glad Hardy didn't waste time on a not so memorable character.

Yeah, I'd say this is the case.

And I must say that I fall in the latter category, not being entirely okay with Will Smith playing himself once again in this role. Only reason why it doesn't bother me all that much is because I don't really care about Deadshot and it is somewhat justified by the fact that they're seemingly going for a different characterization than the apathetic, suicidal version from comics.

 

[Zur-en-Arrh]

pretty much how i feel about will smith as deadshot as well.

 

[DeadStroke]

Yeah, I'd say this is the case.

And I must say that I fall in the latter category, not being entirely okay with Will Smith playing himself once again in this role. Only reason why it doesn't bother me all that much is because I don't really care about Deadshot and it is somewhat justified by the fact that they're seemingly going for a different characterization than the apathetic, suicidal version from comics.

Yep, read its more 70s Deadshot not the 80s Beginnings version.

 

[Guts]

yeah, no matter who played flagg i'm not sure the character would allow for anyone to turn it into a favorite or break-out type role. while he's the heart and soul of ostrander's squad, he's still the liason to waller, and therefore, the authority figure of the group. he's the straight man, and everyone else in the movie gets to play off him.

I honestly felt that way about Bronze Tiger in the Ostrander series.

 

[KillerWolf]

pretty much how i feel about will smith as deadshot as well.

I'm not sure how well I'll respond to the Batman solo, though, if that "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" (my all time favorite western by the way, partially due to Eli Wallach's very amusing and enjoyable performance) rumor is true. I like the concept, but Smith "being" Tuco... I'll probably be meh on it, at best.

Yep, read its more 70s Deadshot not the 80s Beginnings version.

This would make sense... not that I'm particularly familiar with the 70s version, but it certainly seems that it's not the 80s one. Did he ever have a daughter in the comics, by the way? I know that he had a son that got killed.

 

[DeadStroke]

That would result in low RT ratings and it would be disatrous for the movie -

1. David Ayer's main skill is to focus on his characters, without that, it just turns into a Fast and Furious wannabe movie.

2. The main problem Critics have with DC movies is that the characters are not developed enough and there are few quieter moments that put focus on the story.

Alexis Harrold ‏@AllRealLex May 21
@BrunaMelani @gianoni_jarod They both looked super cool and had nice back stories though the stories were

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very brief

I think some of the flashbacks were cut down..

 

[DeadStroke]

I'm not sure how well I'll respond to the Batman solo, though, if that "The Good the Bad and the Ugly" (my all time favorite western by the way, partially due to Eli Wallach's very amusing and enjoyable performance) rumor is true. I like the concept, but Smith "being" Tuco... I'll probably be meh on it, at best.



This would make sense... not that I'm particularly familiar with the 70s version, but it certainly seems that it's not the 80s one. Did he ever have a daughter in the comics, by the way? I know that he had a son that got killed.

The Tuco stuff is still just a rumor at the moment.

I just mentioned it because of Deadshot having the most scenes with Batman and how Will Smith mentioned at the MTV awards that he'd love to see Deadshot in Batman's solo movie.

 

[KillerWolf]

The Tuco stuff is still just a rumor at the moment.

I just mentioned it because of Deadshot having the most scenes with Batman and how Will Smith mentioned at the MTV awards that he'd love to see Deadshot in Batman's solo movie.

Yeah, I know it is.

And this is the reason why I think the rumor might be true.