Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - - - - - - - - - - - Part 28

[FunkMiller]

Yes... the DCEU's poor movies are not poor because they are poorly made. Critics who view hundreds if not thousands of movies per year and give plenty of them that aren't in any way related to Marvel positive reviews haven't liked the DCEU's output, but that absolutely can't be due to the films being flawed. Nope, it's all our fault.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Ah, so DC movies are in some way quantum? That they only become poor when observed? By critics?

Quantum criticism.

Interesting...

 

[Enriquespy]

Once I didn't got sarcasm too.

It was lit.

 

[JC00]

I'd say more so with DC fans in particular because, unless I'm mistaken, you don't exactly see fans of Marvel Studios getting up in arms if their films aren't well received critically. Granted, they've yet to make a movie that was a flop or critical failure- even if I don't like Thor: the Dark World- but as far as I can tell, Marvel folks seem to keep it together a tad more than DC.

Praise Be to Our Lord and Savior, Kevin Feige.

 

[idiot09]

In the end, General Audience don't go in and look at narrative structure and editing issues. They just want to have fun and so far from what I reading, the movie provides that. I am expecting the WOM to be good.

Same here.I actually have hope the general audience will dig this movie and it will make money.

 

[MadVillainy]

I'd say more so with DC fans in particular because, unless I'm mistaken, you don't exactly see fans of Marvel Studios getting up in arms if their films aren't well received critically. Granted, they've yet to make a movie that was a flop or critical failure- even if I don't like Thor: the Dark World- but as far as I can tell, Marvel folks seem to keep it together a tad more than DC.

In the world of movies, anyway. We can't forget the hoopla over Cap going 'Hail Hydra' or Peter Parker making a deal with the devil during Civil War.

Yeah it's weird.

You didn't see many Fox fans acting like some of the DCEU fans

 

[WitchTrialz]

In this particular case with Suicide Squad, it is because the final product we got to see REEKS of studio interference. It is poorly made, it is poorly put together as a whole cohesive narrative and overall film. It is BLATANT.

While not being great IMO, a movie like Ant-Man who also went through big behind-the-scene turmoils, still ended up being a coherent and honest movie where you didn't see all production troubles bursting at the seams. That's not the case with Suicide Squad unfortunately.

I trust you've seen the film to be making statements like this?

 

[Broseph44]

I wonder if now we will get an extended/ultimate/directors cut for home release.

 

[Tv's Phil]

Just read the THR article. **** sake. Maybe Ayer really was out of his element here, but it sounds like the real culprits are WB, if that report is true (and I think it is). Amazing though that they apparently panicked and ****ed with Ayer's film instead of doing what they SHOULD have done after BvS and fired Zack ****ing Snyder.

What makes you think they haven't been meddling for a while?

 

[Fallen Angel]

Live streaming of the London Premiere if anyone want's it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thV9a56s5_0

 

[LoganGambit87]

I'd say more so with DC fans in particular because, unless I'm mistaken, you don't exactly see fans of Marvel Studios getting up in arms if their films aren't well received critically. Granted, they've yet to make a movie that was a flop or critical failure- even if I don't like Thor: the Dark World- but as far as I can tell, Marvel folks seem to keep it together a tad more than DC.

which is funny because TDW has a 66 % on RT yet watchmen has a 65% yet watchmen is the one that constantly get based for its reviews and lack of critical praise

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I wonder if now we will get an extended/ultimate/directors cut for home release.

Audiences will soon tire of that little trick.

 

[TX85]

Once I didn't got sarcasm too.

It was lit.

I barely catch some subtle sarcasm at times but I'm still confused about the whole "lit" slang going on

 

[Rowsdower!]

What makes you think they haven't been meddling for a while?

They very well might have. And perhaps BvS was more their fault than Snyder's, I don't know for sure. Either way... something has to change, and FAST. And no, WB, the answer isn't "just put Batman in everything."

 

[Broseph44]

Audiences will soon tire of that little trick.

Oh I agree, because at that point it's like why should I go to the theater to see an edited down cut that isn't the cut that was originally intended.

 

[Enriquespy]

I barely catch some subtle sarcasm at times but I'm still confused about the whole "lit" slang going on

Me too.

 

[Symbiotic]

I wonder if now we will get an extended/ultimate/directors cut for home release.

Named either "The Good Version" or "The Apology Cut".

 

[NotNickFury]

which is funny because TDW has a 66 % on RT yet watchmen has a 65% yet watchmen is the one that constantly get based for its reviews and lack of critical praise

Which is strange, yes, considering that the Director's Cut of Watchmen is very good.

 

[TX85]

Audiences will soon tire of that little trick.

True but many will still reluctantly buy them

 

[Sleiek]

Boy: Why're they hating on the DCEU, Dad?

DC Fan: Because they have to hate on it.

Boy: They didn't do anything wrong.

DC Fan: Because they're the heroes DC deserves, but not the one Hollywood needs right now. So they'll hunt them because they can take it. Because they're not our heroes. They're silent guardians, watchful protectors. Unfairly criticized knights.

 

[tanita_mors]

They very well might have. And perhaps BvS was more their fault than Snyder's, I don't know for sure. Either way... something has to change, and FAST. And no, WB, the answer isn't "just put Batman in everything."

idk, i almost would like to see them try to put batman in wonder woman's world war I origin story. the absurdity of it all.

 

[aNarcHy2day]

I trust you've seen the film to be making statements like this?

WitchTrialz, what did you think of the movie?

 

[Rowsdower!]

idk, i almost would like to see them try to put batman in wonder woman's world war I origin story. the absurdity of it all.

LOL...

Yeah, maybe the Flash will show Bruce another vision, this time from the past, and we'll see Mad Max Batman walking around in WWI.

 

[FunkMiller]

Live streaming of the London Premiere if anyone want's it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thV9a56s5_0

I was umming and aahing about popping down to watch this before the reviews came out, as I'm only a few minutes away on the tube.

I think I'll give it a pass now though....

 

[The Batman]

LOL, I see some of us are still fanboy-blaming when our pet movies don't get the reaction we think it deserves.

 

[Loki882]

They need to stop being reactionary on all of these films. If every film is trying to "make up" for the perceived flaws of the last one, then that's a terrible way to build a universe long-term.

Also if the reports are to be believed, then maybe, just maybe WB got this a bit backwards. Perhaps a character like Superman is better suited for a more fun, upbeat, optimistic movie, while a bunch of murderers, psychos, and criminals are better suited for a darker and grittier one. Imagine that.