Summer 2011 box office predictions - Part 2

[Donut]

Harry Potter will still make $1 Billion before its on DVD & Blu-Ray

 

[Tony Stark]

We really do need a break from superheroes, I was only thinking this today that if you'd asked me 5 years ago that we'd be getting all these new character on screen I would have said fantastic. A case of be careful for what you wish for because this onslaught has shown me that I really don't need to see or even want to see every famous comic character come to life. Funny how things change.

What the hell are you doing on this board then? lol! Seriously if you need a break don't go see the movies. Many of us, (I'd venture to say most of us) grew up in a time where there was no interest in making any of these movies.

Superhero movies are no different than any other genre, there are good ones, and bad ones. Do we need a break from fantasy movies? Since the Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter movies came out 10 years ago we've gotten numerous fantasy novels tried to turn into movies, some good, some bad.

Do we need a break from mindless action movies? Wanna make a bet they're already filming Fast and Furious 6?

I just love people who say "we" and presume to speak for everyone.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Harry Potter will still make $1 Billion before its on DVD & Blu-Ray

It's going to do $1 billion off foreign box office alone.

 

[Tony Stark]

I believe the Potter films have all done better internationally than in the States. Same with the LOTR films.

 

[Marvin]

It's going to do $1 billion off foreign box office alone.

Considering, neither the last nor the highest grossing installment have passed 660 mill, whilst never has potter hit a billion...I'm very eager to see this happen.
3D and series closer status may be the push it needs to make crazy statements a reality.

 

[Liam_H]

Considering, neither the last nor the highest grossing installment have passed 660 mill, whilst never has potter hit a billion...I'm very eager to see this happen.
3D and series closer status may be the push it needs to make crazy statements a reality.

Its very possible, everbody thought Pirates was a waning franchise but the latest installment went pass $800 million internationally with 3D helping a lot. People overseas have not soured to that format as much as the states. Potter will make at least that much internationally.

 

[Marvin]

I agree but how many films let alone potter can claim 1billion from foreign alone?
The 3D push is crazy these days especially internationally but that would be insane, and potter has already slowed if not stopped doing insane things by way of front loading. Only two films have ever hit 1 billion foreign and they were by way of camerons inverse box office accumulation...potter is going about it in almost the exact opposite way.

I think it goes without saying that Pirates' international numbers were helped by the fact that the audience really had nothing else to do while they waited a full month and then some for some big competition. It just seems more and more(and this will hold very true with Cap) that one of the biggest deciders these days is the competition you face. I mean Cap may be the first big comic book film that doesn't open at number one, inversely Potter may be the biggest film ever to not hold the spot for more than 6 days simply because of when these studios released their films.

I think if Potter and Pirates swapped dates the numbers would be a lot different all round.

 

[jmc]

Cap wouldn't be the only superhero film not to open at number 1, I'm sure of that.

 

[Liam_H]

^Definitely wouldn't be the first one but the first major one?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I believe the Potter films have all done better internationally than in the States. Same with the LOTR films.

That's typical not only with Harry Potter and LOTR, but fantasy films in general.

The US tends to like big movies that are either grounded in reality or offer at least some version of our world.

Worldwide is different. They love Sci-Fi and fantasy movies a lot more than the US.

 

[jmc]

^Definitely wouldn't be the first one but the first major one?

I know Punisher flopped big time, probably the biggest casualty I can think of, Cap would definitely be the highest profiled character not to open number 1 that's for sure.

 

[jmc]

That's typical not only with Harry Potter and LOTR, but fantasy films in general.

The US tends to like big movies that are either grounded in reality or offer at least some version of our world.

Worldwide is different. They love Sci-Fi and fantasy movies a lot more than the US.

Very true, must be a cultural thing coz there's been plenty of those type of films that do average business States side but do great numbers everywhere else, although I think it's fantasy more so than sci-fi. My theory is fantasy myth and legends being more prominent in European history which subsequently filtered down to the colonies they held being the reason.

 

[rashad]

HP7 Pt 2 at $425m overseas; franchise crosses $7bn
22 July, 2011 | By Jeremy Kay

The thunderous performance of the Warner Bros fantasy finale puts it at $640.2m globally to ensure the biggest franshise in Hollywood history has crossed $7bn.

Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows: Part 2’s $214.9m North American tally also means the studio has crossed the $1bn milestone in domestic ticket sales for the year-to-date — the 11th consecutive year it has achieved the feat.

The overseas tally stands at $425.3m following last weekend’s record $313.5m launch and Deathly Hallows looks a good bet to soar past $550m by the end of the weekend.

It should cross $60m in the UK and $40m in each of Australia, Germany, Japan and France by the end of Sunday if not sooner. China will receive the film on Aug 4.

Meanwhile Paramount Pictures International’s (PPI) Transformers: Dark Of The Moon is expected to cross $500m given that the action sci-fi pulled in a further $37.5m last weekend and touches down in China – a massive market for the previous instalment.

PPI opens DreamWorks Animation’s Kung Fu Panda 2 in Hong Kong and that film has amassed $428.3m. Captain America: The First Avenger gets its first international push in Italy day-and-date with North America, while Beautiful Lies opens in Australia.

Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures International’s Cars 2 has grossed $155.7m to date and will get a big push this weekend when it pulls in to the UK and South Korea.

The latest tally for Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides puts the blockbuster at $793.1m. It currently ranks as the third biggest international release of all time behind Avatar and Titanic, although that may well change if Deathly Hallows maintains its breakneck pace.

Universal’s comedy Bridesmaids has grossed $61.4m through UPI and gets a big push, arriving in 15 territories including Germany, Sweden, South Africa, Singapore and Denmark.

Honey 2 opens in France, Belgium and South Africa, while Hop on $72.9m opens in South Korea, Beginners opens in the UK and Paul touches down in Spain and has grossed $56m. The Eagle has taken $7.6m and opens in Australia.

Sony Pictures Releasing International’s Bad Teacher has grossed more than $59m and opens in Australia and Mexico, while the rom-com Friends With Benefits opens day-and-date with North America in a handful of small territories.

Zookeeper on more than $17m opens in Russia and around 18 other territories and Hanna arrives in Singapore and has grossed in excess of $19m.

Fox International’s Mr Popper’s Penguins debuts in around 13 territories including France, Mexico, Spain and Argentina and stands at $40.7m. X-Men: First Class has grossed $204.7m. Monte Carlo opens in Italy.

http://www.screendaily.com/news/dis...verseas-franchise-crosses-7bn/5030124.article

Insane numbers for HP.

 

[Iron_Stark]

What the hell are you doing on this board then? lol! Seriously if you need a break don't go see the movies. Many of us, (I'd venture to say most of us) grew up in a time where there was no interest in making any of these movies.

Superhero movies are no different than any other genre, there are good ones, and bad ones. Do we need a break from fantasy movies? Since the Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter movies came out 10 years ago we've gotten numerous fantasy novels tried to turn into movies, some good, some bad.

Do we need a break from mindless action movies? Wanna make a bet they're already filming Fast and Furious 6?

I just love people who say "we" and presume to speak for everyone.

lol, no kidding. If garbage like Fast and Furious keep getting pumped out, then there's no reason for superhero movies not to keep getting made.

Don't like 'em, don't see 'em.

 

[ALP]

Captain America could possibly be #1 in America but it goes without saying Potter will still be #1 international. Can't imagine many outside of America are scrambling to see Captain America lol

 

[Doctor Jones]

Oh, definitely not.

*Mind of an international movie goer* "Hmmm... the last Harry Potter movie ever or a movie called Captain America."

It's not hard for them. If a purely visual sci fi film like GL that are usually popular overseas can't do it, I worry for Cap overseas. I shouldn't worry that much, but I odn't want a lower than expected.

 

[MadVillainy]

What the hell are you doing on this board then? lol! Seriously if you need a break don't go see the movies. Many of us, (I'd venture to say most of us) grew up in a time where there was no interest in making any of these movies.

Superhero movies are no different than any other genre, there are good ones, and bad ones. Do we need a break from fantasy movies? Since the Lord of the Rings/Harry Potter movies came out 10 years ago we've gotten numerous fantasy novels tried to turn into movies, some good, some bad.

Do we need a break from mindless action movies? Wanna make a bet they're already filming Fast and Furious 6?

I just love people who say "we" and presume to speak for everyone.

Yeah I dont get this thing of saying "we need a break from superhero movies". I mean I wasnt around years ago but from what I hear a vast majority of people were saying "we need more superhero movies", now we need a break? Why? Superhero movies arent that different from sci fi movies or westerns or whatever. It's a genre. AS long as theyre good or at least fun I dont see why people are complaining. Im having a blast watching them all. I can't wait to see Cap

Though I will say, I think maybe MArvel shoudl taken a break from the Avengers. I mean Avengers in 12 and then IM3 and THor2 in 13. I wouldve rather seen Black Panther .
But if IM3 and THor 2 turn out good then it doesnt really matter

 

[Marvin]

We need more interesting takes on these properties.

People feel like their watching the same movie over and over, at least with the action films there are very tangible differences outside the typical tropes.

Can you all imagine if Marvel Studios made every superhero movie?
Lukily we get a nolan batman, Marc Webb Spidey Snyder Superman. It's just when marvel inflates the market with the serviceable films that people feel like there are too many of the same film out.

 

[jmc]

I was like many of you a few years ago with being all excited about all these movies coming out, now my opinion has changed, too many superheroes is not a good thing and taking a break is not only good for the genre it's good for the audience. Too many will cannibalize the genre.

 

[MadVillainy]

We need more interesting takes on these properties.

People feel like their watching the same movie over and over, at least with the action films there are very tangible differences outside the typical tropes.

Can you all imagine if Marvel Studios made every superhero movie?
Lukily we get a nolan batman, Marc Webb Spidey Snyder Superman. It's just when marvel inflates the market with the serviceable films that people feel like there are too many of the same film out.

I havent heard this complaint with any superhero movie other than GL.

I was like many of you a few years ago with being all excited about all these movies coming out, now my opinion has changed, too many superheroes is not a good thing and taking a break is not only good for the genre it's good for the audience. Too many will cannibalize the genre.

what?

I dont think the audience cares what a film is (i say the same thing about reboots) as long as theyre entertained or they find the movie good. I havent heard anyone (except people on the internet) complain about the number of superhero movies.

 

[KRIM]

I'm not really seeing how 3, 4, or even 5 movies, in the span of 365 days, is so bad. They're more high profile and eclipse many of its competitors, but at the end of the day it is a single product amongst a slew of many.

Quantity isn't what's going to destroy this genre, it's the amount of non-quality that is consistently pushed out. If we can imagine an ideal 2012, with Avengers, TDKR, and ASM, all doing gigantic numbers while being equally great films -- who is honestly going to complain? People will want more of that.

 

[jmc]

Look, keep the blinkers on if you want, I don't really care anymore.

 

[MadVillainy]

Quantity isn't what's going to destroy this genre, it's the amount of non-quality that is consistently pushed out. If we can imagine an ideal 2012, with Avengers, TDKR, and ASM, all doing gigantic numbers while being equally great films -- who is honestly going to complain? People will want more of that.

THat's it right there. If theyre good people will see them.

I mean GL is largely regarded as not being good, so it's not a very successful movie
FC is largely regarded as being very good, so while it may not be raking in $1B it is a pretty successful movie

If it's good and has kickass action people will come

Look, keep the blinkers on if you want, I don't really care anymore.

Lmao
I'm just confused what youre talking about. "Blinkers"? Did you mean "Blinders"?
Anyway, you just keep saying that less superhero movies will be better for the audience but you dont use evidence to back it up. Even if youre speculating you have to have at least some evidence to back up youre point.
ANd from what I've seen and heard people arent tired of the superhero film genre. In fact superhero films are often some of the most anticipated movies of the year. The evidence for my side is there, if it's fun or good people will go see it.

 

[Marvin]

I havent heard this complaint with any superhero movie other than GL.

I've heard it plenty(especially with this whole hero starts off arrogant/cocky story line the studios are hip too)

besides why else could people possibly be complain in this manner?

 

[MadVillainy]

That's what Im saying Ive only really heard it with the "whole hero starts off arrogant/cocky story line the studios are hip too" like Green Lantern and Green Hornet. And I agree they need to chill out with those types, but there are still other heroes out there

I really havent heard "theyre too many superhero movies" from any GA type people. I really just think people want to have fun at the movies