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Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 56

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For me, the moment Arthur emerges from the waterfall in his beautiful shiny classic Aquaman armor, theme music swelling, Nicole Kidman proclaiming him to be “the one true king” and him slamming that trident down is a top 10 CBM moment for me. Moments like that are why I watch these things and it felt so earned. And by the way I never gave a s*** about Aquaman.

I will never claim AM is as weighty as some other folms but as someone that does love Aquaman that moment gave me chills the three times I saw it in the theater. I was very worried the movie would just be a freight train of quips but instead they balanced it out.

And they gave me all I could have wanted in that third act.
 
I had no interest in Aquaman before that movie but was pleasantly surprised. But, I couldn't put that moment in a top 10 even for just last year, considering it was the same year of Black Panther, Infinity War and Into the Spider-Verse.
 
Welp, just saw the DP international trailer and it's the first time that I've seen footage from that film cut in an exciting way. Unfortunately I assume the actual film will be more Apocalypse than Days of Future Past.
 
Welp, just saw the DP international trailer and it's the first time that I've seen footage from that film cut in an exciting way. Unfortunately I assume the actual film will be more Apocalypse than Days of Future Past.

Im rooting for Dark Phoenix but....i dunno man this thing seems DOA. The trailer was fine but there was nothing inpressive about it. I think the movie is going to either live or die on the emotional pathos as opposed to spectacle.
 
Honestly Disney should kill Dark Phoenix, and I'm amazed that they seem content to let it go. Maybe they would have killed it if the merger completed sooner. The only thing Dark Phoenix will do is devalue what is now Disney property. The whole thing is a train wrek, there's been as much negative press if not more about Dark Phoenix as there was about Fan4stick. Kinberg basically edited and ghost directed that film and you saw what a piece of s*** it turned out to be so Fox rewarded him by giving him his own film?

The X-Men is going to be very important in Disney's future as Iron Man, Cap and Thor have mostly run their course. If they can do with the X-Men what they did to reinvigorate Spider-man then this disaster may be forgiving. At this point Dark Phoenix is even less appealing than TASM2 was.
 
Welp, just saw the DP international trailer and it's the first time that I've seen footage from that film cut in an exciting way. Unfortunately I assume the actual film will be more Apocalypse than Days of Future Past.

I'm taking the same approach. It's kind of shocking they cut a good trailer, and then released it a week later after their second meh trailer. Most folks will never even see it, and I can't really blame them when the first two were pretty ambivalent. The only way this movie does anything is if it gets positive reviews, and even then it'll need to be better than average (which is what I'd dub the Ant-Man movies), because a lot of the nerd sites have their knives out.

Of course if it ends up being another Apocalypse/Last Stand, then who cares, it'll get what it deserves.
 
I will never claim AM is as weighty as some other folms but as someone that does love Aquaman that moment gave me chills the three times I saw it in the theater. I was very worried the movie would just be a freight train of quips but instead they balanced it out.

And they gave me all I could have wanted in that third act.

I mean to teach their own, but that to me was a pretty empty scene both times I saw it. I guess because the film didn't convince me Arthur deserved to be king. He just fumbled through everything and then gets the swelling music, this iconic shot, and poor Nicole Kidman forced to pretend it's a serious moment... it left me cold.

The parts of Aquaman that worked, to me, were ridiculous things like Patrick Wilson riding a shark or running through Sicily with lasers being fired around them. I thought if they went for a sillier tone (more... well Ragnarok, honestly) it could've worked. Strangely, I was less crazy about Ragnarok because the actors I thought could've done more with the material, but just pure comedy is the right inclination when you're relying on Jason Momoa and Amber Heard to carry your movie.
 
I mean to teach their own, but that to me was a pretty empty scene both times I saw it. I guess because the film didn't convince me Arthur deserved to be king. He just fumbled through everything and then gets the swelling music, this iconic shot, and poor Nicole Kidman forced to pretend it's a serious moment... it left me cold.
This is how I felt about it. There's not a single thing in the film that ever gives you a reason to think that Arthur is worthy of being king. Hell, right after he gets the trident, which allows him to control all sea creatures, he immediately uses his power to slaughter forces on both sides of the war going on instead of trying to facilitate some peace. Like way to care about the people you're supposed to end up protecting.

Well that's an interesting development. Much rather they not use Deadshot if they're not going to bring back Smith. But getting Elba is a win no matter who he's playing so I can't complain too much.
 
Speaking of AM...where’d he get the suit? Did he steal it off of the old king’s skeleton?
 
Speaking of AM...where’d he get the suit? Did he steal it off of the old king’s skeleton?
It looked like it transferred off the old king onto him after picking up the trident through some magic.

Edit: Nvm, I just went and looked and the King's body disintegrated so Arthur must've just put it on :funny:
 
LOL at Idris jumping onto another franchise film after wanting to flee Thor. I guess he really wants to work with Gunn.
 
How exactly was Aquaman supposed to just magically stop two sides in the process of shooting each other?
 
I mean the crab people stopped fighting as soon as the the creature Arthur summoned showed up as it leveled half their army, a good portion of Orm's army was rendered useless because Aquaman controls the sea creatures they're on, and then half the army immediately stopped once Mera explained to her dad that Arthur had Atlan's trident. So they're were plenty of ways for you to avoid some of the conflict and unnecessarily killing so many Atlanteans.

Of course some of it couldn't be avoided, Orm immediately ordered his army to attack whatever that creature was, and they use a lot of tech in Atlantis that couldn't be stopped without force. But that creature tore through the army like nothing and seemed pretty fine. There was no need for Arthur make all the sea creatures eat the people riding them or to summon the trench people, which just leads to more death. Either way, we're supposed to believe Arthur is ready to be king of Atlantis, but he doesn't prove as to why he should be. The only reason he is, is simply because he acquired the trident. He didn't learn anything. His first plan was to go guns blazing in the finale, much like it was when he first arrived to fight Orm.

Heck, as half-baked as it was for a side plot, you could try and argue Arthur's whole encounter with Black Manta was meant to teach him that chaos and death isn't how you should handle things, which makes it even worse that his first instinct was just to blow everything up.
 
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I think we’re supposed to believe in Arthur because of his natural compassion and his connection to the surface world. The classic “vest of both worlds/child of two worlds” tripe(s).

He also fulfills the prophecy or whatever.
 
I need to see Aquaman again once its on Amazon. I can barely remember it.
 
I mean the crab people stopped fighting as soon as the the creature Arthur summoned showed up as it leveled half their army, a good portion of Orm's army was rendered useless because Aquaman controls the sea creatures they're on, and then half the army immediately stopped once Mera explained to her dad that Arthur had Atla's trident. So they're were plenty of ways for you to avoid some of the conflict and unnecessarily killing so many Atlanteans.

Of course some of it couldn't be avoided, Orm immediately ordered his army to attack whatever that creature was, and they use a lot of tech in Atlantis that couldn't be stopped without force. But that creature tore through the army like nothing and seemed pretty fine. There was no need for Arthur make all the sea creatures eat the people riding them or to summon the trench people, which just leads to more death. Either way, we're supposed to believe Arthur is ready to be king of Atlantis, but he doesn't prove as to why he should be. The only reason he is, is simply because he acquired the trident. He didn't learn anything. His first plan was to go guns blazing in the finale, much like it was when he first arrived to fight Orm.

Heck, as half-baked as it was for a side plot, you could try and argue Arthur's whole encounter with Black Manta was meant to teach him that chaos and death isn't how you should handle things, which makes it even worse that his first instinct was just to blow everything up.

Stop! You are making me think too much about AM. Thinking to much about AM is not a good thing.
 
LOL at Idris jumping onto another franchise film after wanting to flee Thor. I guess he really wants to work with Gunn.
I don't think Elba's problem was with franchise films as much as it was being kept in the background for the first two Thor films. At least Taika gave him a bit more to do in Ragnarok. Clearly he wanted a leading role in something that might not be a bomb if Gunn is at the helm.
 
Elba had a lot in common with Jennifer Lawrence in X-Men. They were cast in a supporting role in a franchise and then ended up becoming too big for the role, so they weren't happy. We should be glad Marvel didn't force Heimdall as a main character to compensate like what Fox did with Mystique.
 
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